Muscle Bound Strongman gets pwned by fat TapOut lop...

[Earl1972]

I enjoy having overdeveloped muscles?  Let's see, I weigh 210lbs, run 3-5 mies per day, mountain bike 10 miles in the weekend and train BJJ/sub wrestling 2-3 days week.  The only weight training I do is to increase explosiveness not muscle size.  So, my muscles are anything but "over developed"  

Also, please show me where I said Alistar will beat Fedor...I'm waiting

210 would be considered "overdeveloped" for a fighter your height

you said rogers would beat fedor if they fought again, that was after rogers got crushed by overeem

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[Natural Man]

lol.  More proof that overdeveloped muscles are useless

exactly. Rich old homosexual men like em though.

[clued-up]

exactly. Rich old homosexual men like em though.

What about a woman such as yourself? How do you feel about over developed muscles? 

[MAXX]

that fight doesnt prove that having over developed muscles are useless what it proves is if your technique sucks and you have no stamina you shouldnt be fighting...

if you have good technique oversized muscles only serve to strengthen your arsenal...

relying soley on muscle is not going to work against someone who is about the same size of you and has decent technique and or stamina...

saying oversized muscles are useless is ignorant

exactly.

if size didn't matter at all there wouldn't exist any weight classes.


Mariusz is just not a trained fighter that is all.

[MindSpin]

210 would be considered "overdeveloped" for a fighter your height

you said rogers would beat fedor if they fought again, that was after rogers got crushed by overeem

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At 210 I could easily cut to 170 if I was ever going to fight.  Over developed means you cannot so anything athletic and that you have no endurance.  Pretty much the entire IFBB line up, all of which outweigh me by nearly 100lbs.

Again, please show me where I said Alistar will beat Fedor...

[clued-up]

if you have good technique oversized muscles only serve to strengthen your arsenal...

To an extent. In Pudzianowski's case, his muscles are developed to such an extreme level that its detrimental to his gas tank. I don’t think a guy with that much muscle mass can build up the type of endurance needed for fighting. The muscle requires too much oxygen. He’d have to downsize if he wants to become a serious fighter.. not to mention, he needs to learn how to fight in the first place.

That huge mass is useless if you gas in under a minute. Huge muscular mass = bad endurance.

[MindSpin]

exactly.

if size didn't matter at all there wouldn't exist any weight classes.


Mariusz is just not a trained fighter that is all.

Mariusz didn't lose because he was not a trained fighter.  He lost that fight because he was carrying too much muscle.  The more muscle you carry, the more gas you use.  The guy was so tired after one round, that he dropped to the ground on his own and GAVE UP!  HAHAHAH!
 

[MindSpin]

To an extent. In Pudzianowski's case, his muscles are developed to such an extreme level that its detrimental to his gas tank. I don’t think a guy with that much muscle mass can build up the type of endurance needed for fighting. The muscle requires too much oxygen. He’d have to downsize if he wants to become a serious fighter.. not to mention, he needs to learn how to fight in the first place.

That huge mass is useless if you gas in under a minute. Huge muscular mass = bad endurance.

QFT!

[benchmstr]

Mariusz didn't lose because he was not a trained fighter.  He lost that fight because he was carrying too much muscle.  The more muscle you carry, the more gas you use.  The guy was so tired after one round, that he dropped to the ground on his own and GAVE UP!  HAHAHAH!
 

so you are saying that pudz skill level is that of, or greater than tims?

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[MindSpin]

so you are saying that pudz skill level is that of, or greater than tims?

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Uh...no?  Can you read

[benchmstr]

Uh...no?  Can you read

can you answer?......you are saying that the reason he lost was because he had too much muscle, and was gassed.....if he didn't have all the muscle, and had better cardio would he have won.......your question, and comments are missing valuable pieces...

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[Natural Man]

the funny is i bet he s so scary in real life most people must avoid him, just because of his muscle mass. So why even train for fights? He would still destroy most guys on here, just sitting on them lol.

[tonymctones]

To an extent. In Pudzianowski's case, his muscles are developed to such an extreme level that its detrimental to his gas tank. I don’t think a guy with that much muscle mass can build up the type of endurance needed for fighting. The muscle requires too much oxygen. He’d have to downsize if he wants to become a serious fighter.. not to mention, he needs to learn how to fight in the first place.

That huge mass is useless if you gas in under a minute. Huge muscular mass = bad endurance.

I agree to an extent, actually its easier to choke some one out with a triangle choke or side choke if they have more muscle than a person who has little to none but that doesnt mean its useless....

id have to guess that its not his muscle but his lack of actual training that is his main problem as far as his stamina goes....5 mins is a long time in a fight so youre going to expend a great amount of energy

muscular mass doesnt have to equal bad endurance there have been plenty of fighters who carried a great deal of muscle and had good endurance...

fact of the matter is that oversized muscles arent useless

[tonymctones]

the funny is i bet he s so scary in real life most people must avoid him, just because of his muscle mass. So why even train for fights? He would still destroy most guys on here, just sitting on them lol.

even with his obvious lack of technique he would literally destroy the vast majority of ppl in an actual fight

[devilsmile]

lol.  More proof that overdeveloped muscles are useless

more proof that unnaturally pumped UP muscles are useless  

notice that pumping iron and "making ur body grow" is not natural, I didn't say drugs, I'm saying that pumping and and puffing and booming all over the palce, drugs or no isn't helping in a fight.

[MAXX]

the funny is i bet he s so scary in real life most people must avoid him, just because of his muscle mass. So why even train for fights? He would still destroy most guys on here, just sitting on them lol.

you actually think he does mma to be able to intimidate people and kick their ass? god you're dumb...

[FREAKgeek]

You gas primarily cause your aerobic pathway is underdeveloped, not cause you have too much muscle. Pudzy comes from anaerobic sports.

Unnecessary muscular weight can be a hindrance, but please, look at Tim. Let's not forget that Tim outweighed Pud by 30 lbs, you're telling me you're better off to have more fat? nonsense.

[MAXX]

You gas primarily cause your aerobic pathway is underdeveloped, not cause you have too much muscle. Pudzy comes from anaerobic sports.

Unnecessary muscular weight can be a hindrance, but please, look at Tim. Let's not forget that Tim outweighed Pud by 30 lbs, you're telling me you're better off to have more fat? nonsense.

muscles requires oxygen fat does not so yes.

[tonymctones]

You gas primarily cause your aerobic pathway is underdeveloped, not cause you have too much muscle. Pudzy comes from anaerobic sports.

exactly...his muscle didnt cause him to run out of gas it was his lack of training for endurance that more than likely lead to this...

[Earl1972]

At 210 I could easily cut to 170 if I was ever going to fight.  Over developed means you cannot so anything athletic and that you have no endurance.  Pretty much the entire IFBB line up, all of which outweigh me by nearly 100lbs.

Again, please show me where I said Alistar will beat Fedor...

you appear to me much bigger and leaner than any 210 guy that cuts to 170

why would you think rogers would beat fedor in a rematch but not alistair?

mariusz has 3 fights, sylvia has about 30 or so and is a 2 time world champ

i'd say he did well considering his inexperience

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[MAXX]

exactly...his muscle didnt cause him to run out of gas it was his lack of training for endurance that more than likely lead to this...

loll

ofcourse he could get some more stamina if he trained for it alot but doesnt take away the fact that more muscles = more oxygen spent...

there is a reason for why the long distance runners are skinny little shits.

[tonymctones]

loll

ofcourse he could get some more stamina if he trained for it alot but doesnt take away the fact that more muscles = more oxygen spent...

there is a reason for why the long distance runners are skinny little shits.

no doubt but its not going to make or break a fighter, look at hollyfield that dude carried around a great deal of mass and had good endurance...again

again his lack of stamina has more to do with his lack of training towards that end I would say than the fact he carries around alot of muscle...

[FREAKgeek]

there is a reason for why the long distance runners are skinny little shits.

Yea but we're talking about heavyweight MMA. Having more muscle over fat is an asset.

[Hulkotron]

Are there any strength numbers out there for Tim Silvia?  He may be a fatass but he's a big guy, I bet he's pretty strong.

[JOHN MATRIX]

Frankly, that picture should make us all weep.

true...that picture is the very antithesis of the core getbig philosophy