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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #50 on: May 29, 2010, 08:31:33 PM »
Haven't been on here in a while.....I can see you're still as delusional as ever.

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #51 on: May 30, 2010, 12:46:00 PM »
How embarrassing that people even have to question whether the President of the United States or a foreign oil company is calling the shots on the worst oil spill in US history.

Good call.  The same thing happened when Bush had to try to convince us, "I'm the decider!"   

You're the POTUS... of course you are.  Why are you trying to convince us?

Obama is just reading what his advisers tell him to say.  They'll try 2 months of half-witted, two-term plugging attempt, but nothing is going to work.  It's all about simple pressure... nothing is going to stop it.  We'll either nuke it or let it run out on its own.  But now, Bp and the white house can say "we tried all of these watercooler-chat-ready solutions, like Top-hat and Butt-Plug, etc... we did our best!"

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #52 on: May 30, 2010, 03:59:48 PM »
240:  If obama has the time to:

1.  Go on vacation
2.  Fly off on AF1 to the Getty Mansion to raise money for Boxer
3.  Host Calderone in gaudy WH parties
4.  Host the Duke basketball team
5.  Do interviews with Marv Albert about where Lebron is going


Not one person can credibly say he is making this spill a priority.

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #53 on: May 30, 2010, 04:21:10 PM »
A watched pot never boils.
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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #54 on: June 01, 2010, 01:28:58 AM »

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #55 on: June 01, 2010, 01:59:43 AM »
240:  If obama has the time to:

1.  Go on vacation
2.  Fly off on AF1 to the Getty Mansion to raise money for Boxer
3.  Host Calderone in gaudy WH parties
4.  Host the Duke basketball team
5.  Do interviews with Marv Albert about where Lebron is going


Not one person can credibly say he is making this spill a priority.
Your are right, Obama should be at the library over the Library of Congress pouring over books on Oil Spills and coming up with his own "Top Kill" plan. After this, he needs to contact DOD and have them build a contraption of his own design that will plug and cap the damn thing. He then should get into a submersible that is designed, again by his own hand, to withstand the pressure of being 1 mile deep. This one of a kind submersible wiil be dubbed N1 (Naval 1)..

Yes, BF, he did take responsibility---for oversight, the responsibility for the mess, the payment of the mess is BP. They are the one's who made the mess. Period.   

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #56 on: June 01, 2010, 05:52:08 AM »
This morning, President Obama will meet with the NCAA men’s basketball champion Duke Blue Devils at the White House to honor their 2009-2010 championship season in the Rose Garden.

Keeping up the sports theme, the president and the vice president will take a photo with the U.S. World Cup soccer team and former President Bill Clinton, who is chairing the 2018 World Cup bid, on the North Portico. The White House has previously announced that Vice President Biden and Jill Biden will attend the World Cup in South Africa next month.

Afterward, the president will a private have lunch with President Clinton in the Private Dining Room.

In the afternoon, the President will deliver remarks on the BP oil spill and the conclusions of his ordered 30-day safety review and hold a press conference in the East Room.

The president will announce standards to strengthen oversight of the industry and enhance safety, a first step in a process that the independent Presidential Commission will continue, a White House official says.

In the meantime, the moratorium on permits to drill new deepwater wells will continue for a period of six months. In addition, the planned exploration off the coast of Alaska in the Chukchi and Beaufort seas will be delayed pending the Comissions review and the August lease sale in the Western Gulf will be cancelled. The lease sale off the coast of Virginia will also be cancelled due to environmental concerns and concerns raised by the Defense Department.

After taking questions from press, the President will then receive a briefing in the Situation Room on the 2010 hurricane season forecast and an overview of the federal government’s national hurricane preparedness. The briefing will be led by DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano, FEMA Administrator Craig Fugate and NOAA Administrator Dr. Jane Lubchenco, as well as five FEMA Regional Administrators.

In the afternoon, Mr. Obama will hold a bilateral meeting with President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf of Liberia in the Oval Office.

Later in the afternoon, the President, the Vice President and First Lady Michelle Obama will host a reception in honor of Jewish American Heritage Month in the East Room.

Afterward, in the evening, the First Family will travel to Chicago, Illinois for a four-day Memorial Day weekend vacation. The Obamas have not been back to their hometown all together as a family for more than a year.

-Sunlen Miller

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #57 on: June 01, 2010, 10:14:15 AM »
Friday, Aug 29, 2008  
Sarah Palin: Drill, drill, drill -- all the way


Offshore, onshore, in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge -- the Republican vice-presidential nominee makes no bones about it: Drill!

By Andrew Leonard
Conservatives have a host of reasons for fawning over Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, John McCain's surprise vice-presidential pick. She's solidly pro-life and a solid fiscal conservative. But possibly her most attractive attribute, at this particular moment in time, could be her position on energy. You would be hard put to find an elected politician in the United States who more resolutely supports a rapid ramp-up in exploiting domestic energy supplies -- offshore and on -- including in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

One of her campaign promises in her 2006 run for governor was to "get ANWR open." Drill here, drill now? As CNBC talk show host Larry Kudlow noted in June, with Sarah Palin it's "drill, drill, drill -- all the way."



Where's that cu*t now when we need her "expert" advice?  ::)

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #58 on: June 01, 2010, 10:18:20 AM »
Have fun walking to work, sleeping in a sleeping bag in winter under a fire, and paying shit loads of money for goods you moron. 

And BTW - Obama is still calling for more drilling. 


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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #59 on: June 01, 2010, 10:21:15 AM »
FL panhandle GOP no longer supports ‘drill baby drill’



May 9, 2010
Florida Panhandle politicians who had been ardent offshore drilling advocates are changing their tune as the BP oil disaster begins harming their constituents.



The Senate-energy-committee-approved ACELA (S. 1462) would lift the moratorium on drilling in the Pensacola and Destin areas, just off the coast of the Florida Panhandle.

Florida Panhandle politicians who had been ardent offshore drilling advocates are changing their tune as the BP oil disaster begins harming their constituents. State Representative Greg Evers (R-FL-1) and State Senator Don Gaetz (R-FL-4) joined Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum (R-FL) at a press conference at the Pensacola Chamber of Commerce yesterday. Before the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon rig, both Gaetz and Evers advocated drilling near the Florida shoreline. Now that “a lot of businesses are already feeling the pinch,” however, Evers says the white beaches of Escambia County “must be protected at all costs,” and Gaetz says that the “many” economic losses coming from this oil spill mean “these are the worst of times“:


Drown in oil you coocksuckers !!  ;D

Drown Baby Drown !!

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #60 on: June 01, 2010, 10:21:48 AM »
So the obama haters have no idea what to do either huh?

No surprise.

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #61 on: June 01, 2010, 10:28:23 AM »
"Drill, Baby, Drill" Republican LA Gov. Bobby Jindal Criticizes Federal Disaster Aid


posted Wednesday, 26 May 2010
Bobby Jindal (R Gov. LA) repeatedly called upon a reduction of the federal government, so it could "get out of the way" and "empower" private employers to create jobs.  Jindal is a perfect example of a Republican governor who has constantly complained that the federal government is too big and too intrusive and advocated more authority to the states.
During the Bush administration the federal goverment sure got out of the way of BP drilling deep-water wells in the Gulf! Along the way they approved the absence of safety precautions (insisted upon by the British and Norwegian goverments for North-Sea drilling), with environmental waivers excusing BP from many inspections and reporting requirements. The CMM inspector who inspected the TransOcean rig which caught fire and sunk, causing this disasterous oil spill, was actually applying for a job with TransOcean at the same time.

Of course, now that the oil spill is threatening the livelihoods of hundreds of thousands of Lousianna voters, Jindal is now loudly complaining that the federal government isn't doing enough to protect Lousianna coastline from the effects of the spill.  Now his state's coastline is endangered and all he can do is complain that the federal government hasn't done enough. It's your state's coastline governor, have your people of LA clean it up. You can't have things both ways.



Drill Baby Drill !! Drown in oil NOW coccksucker Jindal !  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #62 on: June 01, 2010, 10:32:58 AM »
 
Senior Republicans distance themselves from 'drill, baby, drill'By J. Taylor Rushing - 05/04/10 03:31 PM ET
 
GOP Whip Jon Kyl (Ariz.) and Sen. Pat Roberts (Kan.) said Senate Republicans have never endorsed the phrase.

Two senior Republicans on Tuesday distanced themselves from the controversial "drill, baby, drill" phrase first used by Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele and repeated prominently by 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

Speaking in the wake of a massive oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico that might have as many political repercussions as environmental ones, GOP Whip Jon Kyl of Arizona and Sen. Pat Roberts of Kansas both said Senate Republicans never endorsed the phrase. And Kyl specifically avoided referring to Steele by name.

"That was not a Senate Republican phrase," Kyl said. "I think there was a candidate that used that. I think our phrase was 'drill here, drill now,' meaning here in the United States and as quickly as oil and gas leases are going."



Hahahaaaa!!! Run but you can't hide coccksuckers!!

Drown Baby Drown !!  ;D ;D

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #63 on: June 01, 2010, 10:49:32 AM »
Idiot.  Have fun walking to work. 

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #64 on: June 01, 2010, 11:02:06 AM »
Karma Baby Karma !!  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #65 on: June 01, 2010, 11:02:43 AM »
Idiot.  Have fun walking to work. 

And if they never end up having to walk to work as your dire hyperbole indicates, who will be the idiot then?

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #66 on: June 01, 2010, 11:05:33 AM »
And if they never end up having to walk to work as your dire hyperbole indicates, who will be the idiot then?

Then they will be able to afford the $10 a gallon gas Obama and his fellow marxist/communist travelers said they want a gallon of gasoline to cost. 

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #67 on: June 01, 2010, 11:12:50 AM »
Then they will be able to afford the $10 a gallon gas Obama and his fellow marxist/communist travelers said they want a gallon of gasoline to cost.  

They'll be the first ones crying when America gets dragged into another war to protect more foreign oil interests, though.  ;)

A CNN poll showed that, while support is down, over 50% of the people in this country are still in favor off-shore drilling.

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #68 on: June 01, 2010, 11:15:42 AM »
Because most people (hopefully) realize that while this really sucks, there is no alternative energy available right now than can do everything oil does and as bad as this is, a spill can be dealt with, $10 a gallon can not. 

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #69 on: June 01, 2010, 11:18:08 AM »

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #70 on: June 01, 2010, 11:19:10 AM »
So instead of blaming Obama for doing nothing, you sit around and whine about what he should have done.

Yet, you can't say for some reason or another exactly what it is that he should have done to stop this.

Contradictions 101.  Your grade is an "F".

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #71 on: June 01, 2010, 11:20:21 AM »
So instead of blaming Obama for doing nothing, you sit around and whine about what he should have done.

Yet, you can't say for some reason or another exactly what it is that he should have done to stop this.

Contradictions 101.  Your grade is an "F".

Mr. President, take command
By David Gergen, CNN contributor

CNN) -- Enough is enough! After the latest failure by BP to plug the gaping hole, it is time for President Obama to take full command of this growing national catastrophe. Immediately!

The president in his press conference this past Thursday assured the nation that he and his administration were already in charge and he has manfully taken personal responsibility -- "the buck stops here," he said, echoing Harry Truman. Well, it may be true that BP has been acting all along under the oversight of the federal government, but that supervision has been loose and ineffective.

To the world, it has been apparent that the government has been riding shotgun and BP has been at the wheel. It's time for the White House to get in the driver's seat and get us to safety -- fast.

First off, who can now trust BP to do the job right? From the beginning, it has appeared to be more interested in shoring up its stock price than in playing straight and solving the problem. It took reckless short cuts in opening up the rig, had no serious plan in place for a disaster, low-balled early estimates of the spill, has high-balled its chances of stopping the leak and has kept both the government and the public too much in the dark. And its efforts on shore are increasingly pathetic -- can it really have failed to protect the safety of beach workers and have stage managed the clean-up when Obama was there, as reported? It was a mistake to leave our fate in the hands of this company as long as we have.

Second, even if BP were reliable, the problem has clearly become too big for it to handle, as Colin Powell is now arguing on television. We have been told for days that the top kill procedure was BP's best hope for stopping the leak and if that failed, we would likely have to wait until BP drilled new wells which might be as late as August. We can't wait that long. BP is especially not up to the task of protecting our precious shorelines and cleaning up the beaches. For that, we need the organizational strength of the U.S. military.

Third, this catastrophe is increasingly threatening the nation's welfare. With a potentially dangerous storm season just around the corner, a continuing gush of oil will not only pose huge, long-term damage to the Gulf region but could easily wash the oil around the tip of Florida and up the East Coast. The loss to livelihoods, the economy and to ways of life would be immeasurable. It would be worse than Katrina and Exxon Valdez put together. Unless we solve this soon, this spill could do to off-shore drilling what Three Mile Island did to nuclear power -- darn near kill it. Obama is right that it is a wake-up call to end our addiction to oil, but we need some forms of off-shore oil as a bridge to that future.

Finally, Obama's leadership is increasingly at stake in this emergency. I thought Peggy Noonan was premature in arguing in the Wall Street Journal this weekend that the spill has already broken his presidency, but her column certainly gave pause. The cameras down at the bottom of the sea give us vivid reminders that this oil is spewing forth day after day after day -- almost like the daily television reminders we had of how long our hostages were held in Teheran while Jimmy Carter sat helplessly in the White House, the authority leaking out of his presidency.

What can the White House do? For starters:

-- Set up a daily command center in Washington where a presidentially appointed leader runs the show, calls the shots, coordinates the overall effort, briefs the president and briefs the country

-- Have two deputies, one to direct the leak-stoppage and the other to direct the clean-up. Ex-CEOs and generals would be excellent candidates

-- Summon all the major oil and drilling companies to the White House for emergency efforts to get the hole plugged

-- Get BP out of the picture for clean-up; just send it the bill. If it is still needed for hole-plugging, okay, but ensure that it answers every day to directions from the government. If BP needs new internal leadership, figure out how to get that done

-- Employ the U.S. military for organizational coordination and where needed, for anything else such as clean-up

-- Make more aggressive efforts to tap the best minds in the world for help

-- Provide the country with the kind of daily briefings that the military has mastered for wartime -- bring in people who are smart, straight and tough

-- Ensure that economic assistance is provided to families, small businesses and communities that need it with dispatch and generosity

-- Call off the finger pointing until we get out of this mess

-- And finally, very importantly, exercise the powers of leadership every day from the Oval Office

The whole country now has a keen interest in the White House now taking full command. Mr. President, it's your move. The nation cannot afford to wait that long -- the government needs to summon all the big oil and drilling companies to the White House on an emergency basis and seek faster answers.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/05/30/gergen.oil.spill/index.html?hpt=C2

Good read. I've also been reading that Obama apparently rejected offers of help from Norway, Russia and Saudi Arabia, three countries who have extensive drilling experience and whose expertise would likely be helpful.

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #72 on: June 01, 2010, 11:25:59 AM »
1.  Cancel his vacation and actually go down there instead of eating ribs at a bbq.

2.  Fast tracking Jindles' requests for the EPA permit. 

3.  Appoint Powell or someone to oversea this who actually has experience dealin with stuff. 

4.  Declare a state of ermegency to allow FEMA to go down there and hopefully get Jindle the booms and other stuff he needs.


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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #73 on: June 01, 2010, 11:33:58 AM »
"Cheney/bush deregulation caused gulf oil spill catastrophe"

Cheney's energy deregulation allowed our oil companies not to spend $500,000 on an acoustic switch to trigger the blowout prevention that would have stopped the disaster now looming off the gulf of Louisiana.

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Re: Things Obama is doing instead of going to the gulf
« Reply #74 on: June 01, 2010, 11:38:54 AM »