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Israel, Gaza an the peace mission
« on: June 06, 2010, 06:40:08 AM »
Hola.

Am I the only one that sees things differently here? For instance:

1. The majority of the Gaza strip is, as of today, the largest open-air jail in the world.

2. Knowing how much Israel hates the majority of Muslim countries (and viceversa mind you), do you think it was a good idea, on the part of the UN, to let a Turkish vessel kind of spearhead the humanitarian operation? I presume the Turks kinda wanted to bring Gaza back into the limelight because, let's face it, it is quickly becoming Israel's graveyard, and the UN is taking notice, all the while helping the Palestinians, who the Turks did not give a shit about until Israel got involved in the area.

3. The UN, the Voice of the World, has the following record when it comes to Israel vs. it's Arab neighbors (mostly Palestinians):

Security Council:
175 Total Resolutions
74 Neutral
4 Against the perceived interests of an Arab state or body
97 Against Israel

General Assembly:
Cumulative Number of Votes cast with/for Israel: 7,938.
Cumulative Number of Votes cast against Israel: 55,642.

With such a record, tell me fellow Americanos, why is it so hard to understand why we're only but a handful of countries that seem to have a benign view of a terrorist countr?

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Re: Israel, Gaza an the peace convoy
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2010, 06:48:29 AM »
It's really pretty simple.... Palestinians are the blacks of the middle east. Lebanon, Jordan, and parts of Egypt were ruined by displaced refugees and the subsequent fighting with Israel. They all know a two state solution doesn't exist and probably are hoping to drag things out until Israel kills all the Palestinians so there won't be another refugee crisis.

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Re: Israel, Gaza an the peace convoy
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2010, 07:05:13 AM »
It's really pretty simple.... Palestinians are the blacks of the middle east. Lebanon, Jordan, and parts of Egypt were ruined by displaced refugees and the subsequent fighting with Israel. They all know a two state solution doesn't exist and probably are hoping to drag things out until Israel kills all the Palestinians so there won't be another refugee crisis.

Well, that is not what the Israelis are saying. Netanyahu himself said "you recognize us, we recognize you", something we all have to take at face value  since we aren't in on the planning. Even before that, during the Taba negotiations, both contending parties agreed on all the major issues. So there is indeed a history of acceptance in place on both sides. I mean, the Palestinians will get the short end of the stick, no doubt about that.

I guarantee you, Israel, if it doesn't stop, will eventually be kicked out of the UN.

Anybody wanna bet?

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Re: Israel, Gaza an the peace convoy
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2010, 07:10:53 AM »
Well, that is not what the Israelis are saying. Netanyahu himself said "you recognize us, we recognize you", something we all have to take at face value  since we aren't in on the planning. Even before that, during the Taba negotiations, both contending parties agreed on all the major issues. So there is indeed a history of acceptance in place on both sides. I mean, the Palestinians will get the short end of the stick, no doubt about that.

I guarantee you, Israel, if it doesn't stop, will eventually be kicked out of the UN.

Anybody wanna bet?

Recognition has no value beyond the political. We all know the Palestinians will eventually end up homeless like the Kurds.

Aid is a lot cheaper than trying to absorb refugees and having them eventually screw up your country or its political process.

Israel doesn't need the UN, they have nukes and an endless supply of US dollars.

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Re: Israel, Gaza an the peace convoy
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2010, 09:26:42 AM »
It's really pretty simple.... Palestinians are the blacks of the middle east. Lebanon, Jordan, and parts of Egypt were ruined by displaced refugees and the subsequent fighting with Israel. They all know a two state solution doesn't exist and probably are hoping to drag things out until Israel kills all the Palestinians so there won't be another refugee crisis.
Isnt that opinion a little dark  ???
I think the the Arab countries are hoping to drag it out till Israel is gone and not the other way around.
The Palestinians are an unfortunate pawn in very dangerous game.

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Re: Israel, Gaza an the peace convoy
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2010, 10:33:44 AM »
Isnt that opinion a little dark  ???
I think the the Arab countries are hoping to drag it out till Israel is gone and not the other way around.
The Palestinians are an unfortunate pawn in very dangerous game.

The area can't absorb more refugees and settlement building will continue. Killing them is really the only choice.

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Re: Israel, Gaza an the peace mission
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2010, 10:42:39 AM »
Is this the same UN that put Libya and Iran on its Human Rights council? If so, who gives a fuck what they have to say? The UN seems to exist for no other reason than to bleed America dry while eradicating our sovereignty. The USA would do well to leave it ASAP.

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Re: Israel, Gaza an the peace convoy
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2010, 12:24:21 PM »
The area can't absorb more refugees and settlement building will continue. Killing them is really the only choice.
The settlements must stop
But the refugees are already there they just have to allowed to settle.
If some one has nothing they will gamble everything, so the Arabs make sure the Palestinians will stay with nothing.

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Re: Israel, Gaza an the peace convoy
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2010, 12:37:32 PM »
The settlements must stop
But the refugees are already there they just have to allowed to settle.
If some one has nothing they will gamble everything, so the Arabs make sure the Palestinians will stay with nothing.

The settlements will never stop.

We shouldn't be funding this mess in any fashion.

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Re: Israel, Gaza an the peace convoy
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2010, 12:49:25 PM »
The settlements will never stop.

We shouldn't be funding this mess in any fashion.

We should just have war week.  Let everyone who is pissed off show up and fight it out.  Winner take all. 

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Re: Israel, Gaza an the peace convoy
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2010, 01:10:19 PM »
We should just have war week.  Let everyone who is pissed off show up and fight it out.  Winner take all. 

They could have an all out war and make money PPV, DVD and on-line sales!

Long as we aren't paying for it.

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Re: Israel, Gaza an the peace convoy
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2010, 01:14:02 PM »
The settlements will never stop.

We shouldn't be funding this mess in any fashion.
I am not talking about funding I am talking about the Palestinians being kept in a state of desperation so they can be used as a weapon