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[gh15]

I know you prefer HG gear but what is you opinion on the old Mexican gear compared to UG?  Would you consider those to be on the same levels(Mexican and UG) as far as quality? I tried several of the Mexican anabolics years ago and liked a few of them. QV Test E and QV dbol from what I can remember.

old mexican gear was real hormones,,,shitty sterility but real hormones,,ug now days is 90 percent bunk,,only thing i recomend is human grade unless you know the source of the powders real well and even then i recomend to keep testosterone human grade

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[kevinf]

first hehe

[claymore]

old mexican gear was real hormones,,,shitty sterility but real hormones,,ug now days is 90 percent bunk,,only thing i recomend is human grade unless you know the source of the powders real well and even then i recomend to keep testosterone human grade

gh15 approved

Agreed

[~UN_$ung~]

this isnt a question that could be answered cut-and-dry either............i mean, there were a few of those old mex labs that were ok (denkall, QV)...........but by and large i would trust the shit coming from some of the more popular UGL's then any of those dirty old mex labs

 remember ttokyo??............what were some of the names of some other shitty labs from back then.....fort dodge(good ketamine)?.......remember Tornel........HAHA..../..remember Brovel.. ..

[benchmstr]

all the qv i used to get was real hormones.....real underdosed hormones...

bench

[benchmstr]

this isnt a question that could be answered cut-and-dry either............i mean, there were a few of those old mex labs that were ok (denkall, QV)...........but by and large i would trust the shit coming from some of the more popular UGL's then any of those dirty old mex labs

 remember ttokyo??............what were some of the names of some other shitty labs from back then.....fort dodge(good ketamine)?.......remember Tornel........HAHA..../..remember Brovel.. ..

brovel was an experience.....sometimes you get 100mg/ml of test, other bottles it could be 500mg/ml of test.....every bottles dosage was different, but they were all labeled the same at 250mg/ml

bench

[epic_alien]

tornell was the bomb

25 bucks for a 10 ml vial 200mg per ml

worth every penny

pre 2006

[pellius]

old mexican gear was real hormones,,,shitty sterility but real hormones,,ug now days is 90 percent bunk,,only thing i recomend is human grade unless you know the source of the powders real well and even then i recomend to keep testosterone human grade

gh15 approved

You seem to imply with this post, along with the others that you have recently posted, that ug testosterone is more likely to be fake than the other anabolics. Why would that be when testosterone is the cheapest and more available when compared to Eq, Deca, Primo, Tren, Mast....

[clued-up]

You seem to imply with this post, along with the others that you have recently posted, that ug testosterone is more likely to be fake than the other anabolics. Why would that be when testosterone is the cheapest and more available when compared to Eq, Deca, Primo, Tren, Mast....

Not fake exactly.. low purity and not as effective as human grade. Like I mentioned in the other thread - its hit or miss with UG labs because the raws that they use are not always top notch.

[pellius]

Not fake exactly.. low purity and not as effective as human grade. Like I mentioned in the other thread - its hit or miss with UG labs because the raws that they use are not always top notch.

But it seems like gh15 is implying the problem is more pronounced with testosterone than with the other compounds. Some mentioned when commenting on Lewellyn's book where he tested a lot of popular UG labs that if a lab can't produce a decent testosterone product chances are their primo, deca, eq are even worse. Seemed to make sense to me. gh15 seems to say it's harder to get decent test than other compounds.

[clued-up]

But it seems like gh15 is implying the problem is more pronounced with testosterone than with the other compounds.

I don’t know why he would imply that. Quality control is a crapshoot across the board.. any hormone powder coming out of china.. test, primo, whatever.

Some mentioned when commenting on Lewellyn's book where he tested a lot of popular UG labs that if a lab can't produce a decent testosterone product chances are their primo, deca, eq are even worse. Seemed to make sense to me. gh15 seems to say it's harder to get decent test than other compounds.

Anyone testing UG labs most likely did not test the purity of the hormone itself.. only the milligram amount in each vile.

You can get 2 different batches of test E, they will both test out just fine, indeed testosterone ehthanate. One will be 99%+ pure, the other 94% pure.

The 99% batch will rock your world, the 94% will be barely noticeable.. No matter the dose.

UG labs are at the mercy of the raw powder they receive - that is the problem, the quality of the raw powder is hit or miss.. you cant depend on it.

Testosterone is the most commonly ordered hormone, so that will obviously be the measure used to determine a UG labs worth.. Just because you have so many people testing it, everyone is familiar with the effects of testosterone, so it will make or break the labs reputation.

[gh15]

I don’t know why he would imply that. Quality control is a crapshoot across the board.. any hormone powder coming out of china.. test, primo, whatever.

Anyone testing UG labs most likely did not test the purity of the hormone itself.. only the milligram amount in each vile.

You can get 2 different batches of test E, they will both test out just fine, indeed testosterone ehthanate. One will be 99%+ pure, the other 94% pure.

The 99% batch will rock your world, the 94% will be barely noticeable.. No matter the dose.

UG labs are at the mercy of the raw powder they receive - that is the problem, the quality of the raw powder is hit or miss.. you cant depend on it.

Testosterone is the most commonly ordered hormone, so that will obviously be the measure used to determine a UG labs worth.. Just because you have so many people testing it, everyone is familiar with the effects of testosterone, so it will make or break the labs reputation.

very good,,see heres a fella who knows hsi bodybuilding well,,

gh15 approved

[pellius]

very good,,see heres a fella who knows hsi bodybuilding well,,

gh15 approved

James001 is such a show off.

[chris-a]

gh15 = the only threads worth reading round here anymore

[~UN_$ung~]

James001 is such a show off.

haha, he knows exactly what to say to make GH melt

[Wiggs]

gh15 = the only threads worth reading round here anymore

Indeed.  I'm glad he's back.

[tbombz]

Anyone testing UG labs most likely did not test the purity of the hormone itself.. only the milligram amount in each vile.

You can get 2 different batches of test E, they will both test out just fine, indeed testosterone ehthanate. One will be 99%+ pure, the other 94% pure.

The 99% batch will rock your world, the 94% will be barely noticeable.. No matter the dose.

wrong!!!!   


the only thing that matters is the amount of hormones in your blood stream.

[Coach is Back!]

all the qv i used to get was real hormones.....real underdosed hormones...

bench

I remember the QV burning real bad going in and not disbursing right away leaving a knot for days.

[Wiggs]

Aww, I remember the good ol' days of SWIM (Someone who isn't me) smuggling ttokyo shit across the Loredo-Nuevo boarder....

[SWOLETRAIN]

I remember the QV burning real bad going in and not disbursing right away leaving a knot for days.

i can still feel the qv enan 250 

[Master Blaster]

wrong!!!!   


the only thing that matters is the amount of hormones in your blood stream.

Thats what I was thinking. Maybe James can elaborate on what he meant.

[4thAD]

Thats what I was thinking. Maybe James can elaborate on what he meant.

Yeah doesnt make a lot of sense, GH your english is very good today compared to yesterdays PM Q's congrats. Just busting your balls a little friend.

[Jake_W]

this isnt a question that could be answered cut-and-dry either............i mean, there were a few of those old mex labs that were ok (denkall, QV)...........but by and large i would trust the shit coming from some of the more popular UGL's then any of those dirty old mex labs

 remember ttokyo??............what were some of the names of some other shitty labs from back then.....fort dodge(good ketamine)?.......remember Tornel........HAHA..../..remember Brovel.. ..

    Hahahaha remember This

[benchmstr]

I remember the QV burning real bad going in and not disbursing right away leaving a knot for days.

the worst pain i ever got was from denkall supertest 400.......i still have a knot in my thigh from a 2cc injection from 5 years ago....

bench

[Van_Bilderass]

gh15, how do you rate this?

Caspian Tamin Androne 250