Explain something about soccer

[Hulkotron]

All I really remember of Maradona was him getting suspended in 199...4? for using ephedra or something.

[the_steevo_uk]

All I really remember of Maradona was him getting suspended in 199...4? for using ephedra or something.

try cocaine bro!! For maradonna you gotta go back to 1986 when he singled handedly (including using his fucking hand against us) tore every team apart and won the world cup, basically by himself.

[Hulkotron]

try cocaine bro!! For maradonna you gotta go back to 1986 when he singled handedly (including using his fucking hand against us) tore every team apart and won the world cup, basically by himself.

I know he had a huge coke addiction but he was actually suspended for ephedrine in 1994 (at least that was the official line, who knows what he really did).

[che]

I know he had a huge coke addiction but he was actually suspended for ephedrine 1994 (at least that was the official line, who knows what he really did).

Actually was ripped fuel

[TacoBell]

Actually was ripped fuel

Ripped fuel was ephedra back then...

[jr]

Olympic weightlifting is a sport that requires tremendous skill, technique, strength, power and speed. In fact it has the fastest sports movement and they develop the most power of any other sport. Americans should be dominating that sport.

[spinnis]

If england looses today again, People are goona die because their hooligans are gonna be PISSED lol

[tonymctones]

 Well!! since being fit makes you a better athlete.
  Here we go.
 

 An average male’s VO2max is typically 40mL.kg.min, soccer players have between 51-62mL.kg.min.

 Football player  45 ml/kg/min.


 One more thing.
 
 Lets not talk about violence and strength , since American football is a sissified version of rugby with full armor padding.

so by your dumb ass logic ethiopian long distance runners are the best athletes in the world? Fuking idiot 

[spinnis]

england is looking good again!

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

so by your dumb ass logic ethiopian long distance runners are the best athletes in the world? Fuking idiot  

 The problem is , we are not arguing about who is the most fit  athlete in the world.
 We are arguing about who is the most fit athlete soccer players or football players.
 Read the whole topic again please. and pay extra attention to pages 13 an 14.
 
 Dude i pwn3d your ass the other day  in 2 different topics, at the same time.
 Guess you need more,  bitches they always need more.


 Here you should always keep this with you.

 1 foot = 12 inches

 1 meter = roughly 39 inches

 1 meter is just over 3 feet
 

[Mr Nobody]

 The problem is , we are not arguing about who is the most fit  athlete in the world.
 We are arguing about who is the most fit athlete soccer players or football players.
 Read the whole topic again please. and pay extra attention to pages 13 an 14.
 
 Dude i pwn3d your ass the other day  in 2 different topics, at the same time.
 Guess you need more,  bitches they always need more.


 Here you should always keep this with you.

 1 foot = 12 inches

 1 meter = roughly 39 inches

 1 meter is just over 3 feet
 

Go USA!

[tonymctones]

 The problem is , we are not arguing about who is the most fit  athlete in the world.
 We are arguing about who is the most fit athlete soccer players or football players.
 Read the whole topic again please. and pay extra attention to pages 13 an 14.
 
 Dude i pwn3d your ass the other day  in 2 different topics, at the same time.
 Guess you need more,  bitches they always need more.


 Here you should always keep this with you.

 1 foot = 12 inches

 1 meter = roughly 39 inches

 1 meter is just over 3 feet
 

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LMFAO so you dont think the NFL players VO2 would go up if they started training like soccer players? dip shit  

face it soccer players are sub par athletes, by your logic marathon runners are better athletes than soccer players b/c they have a higher VO2 max...fuking moron

oh ya our 8th tier athletes just made it through the first round...

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

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LMFAO so you dont think the NFL players VO2 would go up if they started training like soccer players? dip shit  

face it soccer players are sub par athletes, by your logic marathon runners are better athletes than soccer players b/c they have a higher VO2 max...fuking moron

oh ya our 8th tier athletes just made it through the first round...

  First of all, check this out.

 1 foot = 12 inches

 1 meter = roughly 39 inches

 1 meter is just over 3 feet

 
 Your conclusions must be coming out of your ass. "must be the meltdown effect" 
 Take a deep breath, stop melting there's no reason for that.
 I never said that nfl players would be better players if they started training like soccer players.
 And if you read the topic again , you will notice this.
 


 Quote from: GRACIE JIU-JITSU on June 21, 2010, 08:49:36 PM
 First of all..we are talking about soccer, basketball and football. just because  your ass got pwn3d. don't try to bring runners to the subject. oh!! yes the runners  are the best endurance athletes.
 
 I can clarify you this. thank me later. Wink
1 foot = 12 inches

1 meter = roughly 39 inches

1 meter is just over 3 feet
 

 Warning you are about to be pwn3d, again.

[Hulkotron]

VO2max is a terrible metric for performance even in distance running.

[the_steevo_uk]

You confused Black with African.  In the UK blacks are africans.  In the USA they are 5 or 6 generations removed from africa.  Were bread as slaves and the strongest survived and were bread with other strong slaves.  There's a reason why the average Black in north america is stronger, leaner, more muscular than the average off the boat african.

If the majority of NFL, NBA and NHL athletes decided to play soccer the USA would win every world cup.  You don't think that NFL running backs have good feet?  LaDanian Tomlinson can out run and fake out anyone in the world cup.  Darren sproles, the same.  Guys like this can dance around any fool then blow them away in any sprint.  Who the fuck in the world cup would catch Chris Johnson on a break away?  Chris johnson dances through lineman that can crush any soccer player.  You are speaking out of your ass comparing soccer players to real athletes.  Maybe compare soccer players to chess or billiards players for a fair comparison.

sorry to drag the thread back a bit...this aint true at all, most black people in britain are of caribbean decent, africans only started coming in the last twenty odd years...so all the genetic monsters that survived in the slave trade (according to the theory of get big) made their way into britain as well. Hence since black players have been in the game in britain for over thirty years, i highly doubt theres much an african american would offer that might change the current skill levels. Look at all our top sprinters, all of caribbean decent, same with our top black footballers...apart from ade akinbayi (and he was properly shit)

[Hulkotron]

It's kind of a moot point because a lot of "Caribbean blacks" were African slaves brought over by the Europeans starting around 1500.  The indigenous folks were more similar to Native Americans than Africans.

[che]

Jamaica is full of world class athletes but they suck at soccer .

[Jaime]

The American football comparisons are very silly. American footballers participate in a sport rife with drugs and don't have to have any sort of cardio compared to most sports. The smaller guys would weigh about 40lb less in soccer and the linebackers and the bigger defensive guys wouldn't be suited. The talent pool in Soccer consists of every country bar America. Soccer is also a game where skill is far more important than physical attributes. Pele, Cruyff, Maradona, Beckenbauer, Platini, Puskus, Best, et cetera were all small guys, a lot of the greatest players were under 5'9...

[Mr Nobody]

Jamaica is full of world class athletes but they suck at soccer .

They are only good at bobsledding

[the_steevo_uk]

They are only good at bobsledding

you sure about that? 37.10 insane time

[noc]

'Futball' in America suffers greatly because of the American media.  The American media doesn't push soccer because the format is inconveinent to their marketing policies.  45 minutes of commercial free entertainment distracts from the narrative that Americans must be sold or have their attention diverted every 3-5 minutes.

The American populace must be constantly disctracted from their meaningless materialistic lives by the constant selling of "new" and "better" things you must stay in debt to buy.

Debt = Slavery

Events that could cause Americans to look outside of their narrow world view or perhaps engage others cultures in the world are deemed dangerous to American interests by the elites here.  If the American public (the only force in the world that can change American foriegn policy) began to meet and engage other peoples there is a chance that a sympthatic "world view" might take hold.  That change in perspective from the "greatest country under god on earth" mantra continously drummed into Joe Sixpack's head would spell the end of the currently unbalanced and ecologically unsound American policies as they relate to the world.

That's all it is boys.

There is no enemy anywhere - Lao Tse

Amongst lots and lots of drivel, this post has been lost. Well said. American sports is about entertainment and commercialism, not about the game itself. You go to the sporting event, whatever it may be, looking to be entertained, eat a hotdog and take in as much marketing as possible. In Europe, its not just about entertainment, it means much more than that and that's why I hope America stays away from 'soccer', we've seen what happens when Americans get involved - Manchester United and Liverpool FC. Both crippled with debt and interest repayments due to leveraged buyouts from American corporate bastards.

Onto FIFA rankings, anyone citing this to give substance to any point is absolutely clueless, no-one really acknowledges these rankings as they are meaningless. They account for friendlies, jesus. USA vs Barbados -- WIN! ++ Points! 

People talking about how softly players gone down and calling them pussys, they obviously aren't hurt but are 'cheating' to get the other player booked/sent off, are you really that dense?

Freddy Adu, the American boy wonder signing an MLS contract at 14 -- all the hype. Comes over to Europe and where is he now? Rotting away on loan to some third rate team in Greece. Brilliant.