Author Topic: Obama labor Dept.: Illegals have a right to "fair wages" (Read 3181 times)

Soul Crusher · « **on:** June 21, 2010, 10:59:26 AM »

"Obama Labor Chief: Illegals Have a Right to Fair Wages"
Fox News ^ | 6/21/10 | Fox News

The link in this post is just this video with comments from FoxNation's readers. The video is of the Labor Sec'y saying that illegal aliens have a right to fair wages. On the video, she does not say they have the right to work in the first place; she only says that if they're working, they have the right not to be ripped off.

If you oppose illegal immigration, supporting what's on the video is a good idea. Opposing what's on the video incentivizes illegal immigration. If that's not clear, see this.

There are much better ways to oppose Hilda Solis and the administration.

kcballer · « **Reply #1 on:** June 21, 2010, 11:21:05 AM »

Raise the wages and suddenly illegal service isn't so affordable. Good call.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #2 on:** June 21, 2010, 11:25:48 AM »

Quote from: kcballer on June 21, 2010, 11:21:05 AM

Raise the wages and suddenly illegal service isn't so affordable. Good call.

The problem is that illegals will always undercut the prevailing wage and the scumbag employers know they can ghet away with it.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #3 on:** June 21, 2010, 11:33:02 AM »

What the heck?!?!?! What the heck is wrong with these people?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #4 on:** June 21, 2010, 11:34:39 AM »

They are setting up for amnesty.

BM OUT · « **Reply #5 on:** June 21, 2010, 11:37:26 AM »

This is an ad for union scum bags.THATS why they want amnesty,more idiots in scum bag unions stealing peoples money and funneling it to libs.

240 is Back · « **Reply #6 on:** June 21, 2010, 01:20:41 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on June 21, 2010, 11:34:39 AM

They are setting up for amnesty.

yep. It's not even a battle worth fighting - as mccain would be pushng it thru right now as president. Amnesty will pass no matter what.

Quote from: BILLY MIMNAUGH on June 21, 2010, 11:37:26 AM

This is an ad for union scum bags.THATS why they want amnesty,more idiots in scum bag unions stealing peoples money and funneling it to libs.

Um... if that's the case... why did mccain author the amnesty bill, and palin talk about how great it was? It's not about libs/repubs dude.

pro nitrousADRL · « **Reply #7 on:** June 21, 2010, 01:21:47 PM »

obama and his admin are a disgrace to america and true americans what a pofs marxist scumbag, that about all there is to it

kcballer · « **Reply #8 on:** June 21, 2010, 01:39:02 PM »

Quote from: pro nitrousADRL on June 21, 2010, 01:21:47 PM

obama and his admin are a disgrace to america and true americans what a pofs marxist scumbag, that about all there is to it

can't think for yourself and have to copy 333 huh?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #9 on:** June 21, 2010, 01:43:08 PM »

Quote from: kcballer on June 21, 2010, 01:39:02 PM

can't think for yourself and have to copy 333 huh?

KC - millions of people think the same thing as I do.

How can we have amnesty if we dont have secure borders first?

BM OUT · « **Reply #10 on:** June 21, 2010, 02:03:34 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on June 21, 2010, 01:20:41 PM

yep. It's not even a battle worth fighting - as mccain would be pushng it thru right now as president. Amnesty will pass no matter what.

Um... if that's the case... why did mccain author the amnesty bill, and palin talk about how great it was? It's not about libs/repubs dude.

Palin FROM DAY ONE spoke of shutting the borders down.She NEVER agreed with McCains positions until he changed them during the campaign.More lies by you.McCain and Palin arent in power Obama is and he wants this to get more idiot ignorant fools into unions THATS WHY he also wants card check.McCain for that?Was Palin for that?

Danny · « **Reply #11 on:** June 21, 2010, 02:06:24 PM »

Quote from: kcballer on June 21, 2010, 01:39:02 PM

can't think for yourself and have to copy 333 huh?

That was pretty funny..

pro nitrousADRL · « **Reply #12 on:** June 21, 2010, 02:35:51 PM »

i do think for my self, its not my fault that so many others feel the same! maybe we are all on to something huh?

pro nitrousADRL · « **Reply #13 on:** June 21, 2010, 02:38:13 PM »

you wanna talk about not thinking for themselves, look at the libs, they absolutly will not look outside the msnbc box, and completly dismiss any idea of any wrong doing by obama . hmmmmmm

kcballer · « **Reply #14 on:** June 21, 2010, 03:08:48 PM »

Quote from: pro nitrousADRL on June 21, 2010, 02:38:13 PM

you wanna talk about not thinking for themselves, look at the libs, they absolutly will not look outside the msnbc box, and completly dismiss any idea of any wrong doing by obama . hmmmmmm

oh my gosh look at libs, marxist, radical, agenda, on and on it goes.

Go back to claiming BP will go bankrupt to not have to pay for the oil spill

Danny · « **Reply #15 on:** June 21, 2010, 03:17:59 PM »

Quote from: kcballer on June 21, 2010, 03:08:48 PM

oh my gosh look at libs, marxist, radical, agenda, on and on it goes. Go back to claiming BP will go bankrupt to not have to pay for the oil spill

I'm wondering who is using those as main talking points on this oil leak?

Oh yeah ....Rush, Sarah Palin, Joe Barton, Michele Bachmann, u pick your favorite

240 is Back · « **Reply #16 on:** June 21, 2010, 09:11:08 PM »

Quote from: BILLY MIMNAUGH on June 21, 2010, 02:03:34 PM

Palin FROM DAY ONE spoke of shutting the borders down.She NEVER agreed with McCains positions until he changed them during the campaign.

Palin admitted during the 2008 campaign that she supports amnesty (which she euphemistically calls “a path to citizenship”). Proof:

“Univision: To clarify, so you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

SP: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America

[Questioner] As governor, how do you deal with them? Do you think they all should be deported?

[Palin] There is no way that in the US we would round up every illegal immigrant -there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants- not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue that we face with illegal immigration.

No TRUE conservative is A-OKAY with letting the illegals stay, and giving them a path to citizenship dude. What good is a wall if she's going to let them all stay anyway? And yes, she endorsed the mccain Amnesty bill.

240 is Back · « **Reply #17 on:** June 21, 2010, 09:14:36 PM »

Going back to action and not words (and don't get me wrong, i think palin is AWESOME for GOP fundraising, which I think needs to improve greatly, but for this arguement, she would have definitely supported this garbage amnesty bill if mccain had won)

But as Governor, she allowed sanctuary cities. Bold governors like Brewer have found a way to shut them down, big time.

Lou Dobbs notes that at least two of Alaska’s cities have been officially designated as sanctuary cities: “An August 14, 2006 report produced by the Congressional Research Service listed 31 cities and counties that have ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ sanctuary policies in place. They [include] Anchorage, Alaska [and] Fairbanks, Alaska. Alaska and Oregon both have state-wide policies that forbid state agencies from using resources to enforce federal immigration law.”

MRDUMPLING · « **Reply #18 on:** June 22, 2010, 06:46:05 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on June 21, 2010, 09:14:36 PM

Going back to action and not words (and don't get me wrong, i think palin is AWESOME for GOP fundraising, which I think needs to improve greatly, but for this arguement, she would have definitely supported this garbage amnesty bill if mccain had won)

But as Governor, she allowed sanctuary cities. Bold governors like Brewer have found a way to shut them down, big time.

Lou Dobbs notes that at least two of Alaska’s cities have been officially designated as sanctuary cities: “An August 14, 2006 report produced by the Congressional Research Service listed 31 cities and counties that have ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ sanctuary policies in place. They [include] Anchorage, Alaska [and] Fairbanks, Alaska. Alaska and Oregon both have state-wide policies that forbid state agencies from using resources to enforce federal immigration law.”

Enough with the comparisons. We get it, both parties are responsible...the thing is Palin or McCain aren't in office, Obama is so how about blame him instead of saying somebody else that wasn't eleceted would do it. Really man, enough wi this crap.

ToxicAvenger · « **Reply #19 on:** June 22, 2010, 07:18:48 AM »

this guys illegal aunt is living in this country...sooo....

Fury · « **Reply #20 on:** June 22, 2010, 08:04:24 AM »

Quote from: MRDUMPLING on June 22, 2010, 06:46:05 AM

Enough with the comparisons. We get it, both parties are responsible...the thing is Palin or McCain aren't in office, Obama is so how about blame him instead of saying somebody else that wasn't eleceted would do it. Really man, enough wi this crap.

He can't do it. He's an Obama shill that's obsessed with Palin. Of course, he'll now regale us with some fairy tale about how 6 months ago he mentioned something negative about Obama so that means he's objective about the whole thing.

Al Doggity · « **Reply #21 on:** June 22, 2010, 08:19:09 AM »

Quote from: MRDUMPLING on June 22, 2010, 06:46:05 AM

Enough with the comparisons. We get it, both parties are responsible...the thing is Palin or McCain aren't in office, Obama is so how about blame him instead of saying somebody else that wasn't eleceted would do it. Really man, enough wi this crap.

It was a response to a poster who implied this is a liberal position. It's a legitimate point. Neither party (the leaders, on the whole) is particularly interested in actually securing the borders and getting rid of illegals. For one thing, it would wreak economic havoc with the country. And I don't just mean cheap labor. By some estimates, the amount of money illegals pay into the tax system is keeping the Social Security program afloat. But, ultimately, a war on illegal immigrants who are already in this country would be like the war on drugs- a lot of wasted effort and money with a dubious pay off.

12secGT · « **Reply #22 on:** June 22, 2010, 08:21:37 AM »

Al. I agree. Both parties have a vested interest as a whole in illegal imm. The dem's see a voter pool. The Repubs see it as cheap labor for their biz buddies. So the circle goes around. The bottom line is we are paying for this and it's soo time to make changes on Nov. I think that at least 60 to 70% of the incubents will be sorely surprised at the results and fine Nov Wednesday morn....

12secGT · « **Reply #23 on:** June 22, 2010, 08:23:33 AM »

Quote from: Al Doggity on June 22, 2010, 08:19:09 AM

It was a response to a poster who implied this is a liberal position. It's a legitimate point. Neither party (the leaders, on the whole) is particularly interested in actually securing the borders and getting rid of illegals. For one thing, it would wreak economic havoc with the country. And I don't just mean cheap labor. By some estimates, the amount of money illegals pay into the tax system is keeping the Social Security program afloat. But, ultimately, a war on illegal immigrants who are already in this country would be like the war on drugs- a lot of wasted effort and money with a dubious pay off.

One thing I don't agree is the SS pay. How does an illegal PAY into a system when they aren't taxed and are paid off the books?? The truly only thing that biz benefits is the cheap labor. We are paying for the free healthcare they receive, the schooling for their kids, and the crime.

MRDUMPLING · « **Reply #24 on:** June 22, 2010, 09:02:47 AM »

Quote from: Al Doggity on June 22, 2010, 08:19:09 AM

It was a response to a poster who implied this is a liberal position. It's a legitimate point. Neither party (the leaders, on the whole) is particularly interested in actually securing the borders and getting rid of illegals. For one thing, it would wreak economic havoc with the country. And I don't just mean cheap labor. By some estimates, the amount of money illegals pay into the tax system is keeping the Social Security program afloat. But, ultimately, a war on illegal immigrants who are already in this country would be like the war on drugs- a lot of wasted effort and money with a dubious pay off.

No, it wasn't in response to a poster who implied this is a liberal issue. 240 has been doing this for months now, everytime anyone mentions something that the Obama administration has done he goes and says, "So, Palin would have done it." I like the guy but he derails threads with that shit. Cut the crap 240, it isn't about who so and so would have done, it's what the current admin IS DOING.

Yeah, yeah, meltdown.