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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2010, 02:08:31 PM »
I got a better question that doesn't have all the stipulations....


Can you name the last time a #1 Ranked guy fought a #10 ranked to defend his title?


I will post a article as to why Werdum is a great opponent for Fedor & is under ranked.

You know my opinion on the Fedor vs Werdum bout & that rankings don't mean shit unless its done by other fighters.




Fabricio Werdum, Not Alistair Overeem: The Right Opponent for Fedor Emelianenko
 by JonathanSnowden on Jun 23, 2010 1:00 PM EDT in Events  269 comments

I've seen plenty of prattle online about Fedor Emelianenko "ducking" the mighty Alistair Overeem and taking an easier fight with jiu jitsu wizard Fabricio Werdum. Nothing could be further from the truth. The fact is, among heavyweights not in the UFC, it's hard to argue that anyone who is licensed to fight in California deserves a shot at the best more than Werdum-and certainly not Overeem, a man more media myth than top contender.

Since 2008, Overeem has a handful of wins in MMA, almost none of them over top 10 opponents, almost none of them meaningful in the grand scheme of things. He's beaten Mark Hunt long after Hunt stopped trying, James Thompson (post Kimbo and in the middle of losing 7 of 8), and the 39 year old shell of Kazayuki Fujita. None of this was particularly impressive.  What is so great then about the Dutch behemoth? Hulking muscles.  Incredible mass. Veins. MMA promoters and fans have had a hard on for muscular physiques since Royce made Ken tap the mat way back at UFC 1.  Nothing has changed.

Werdum, on the other hand, doesn't look like he has just come out of a GNC with a bag the size of a Mini Cooper. He's just a solid professional fighter. In the last five years he's lost a handful of times, but only to the very best.  Nogueira. An Arlovski who, while the world's biggest metrosexual, was also the second best heavyweight in the UFC. And finally, the top young prospect in the world, Junior Dos Santos. He impressed everyone with his tough fight against Antonio Silva at Strikeforce in Chicago last year and has wins over Gabriel Gonzaga and Brandon Vera-back when those two men mattered.

And then, there's the head to head battle. Even assuming all things are equal (and I'd argue Werdum has the more impressive resume as a heavyweight MMA fighter) Fabricio has the ultimate chit-a head to head win over Overeem a few years ago in Pride. Werdum made him tap to a kimura, the first and last time Overeem was ever submitted by a hold, choke, or lock in his ten year MMA career.

That's what makes Werdum a worthy test for Fedor (or anyone else for that matter). It's the submission pedigree that earned the Brazilian two ADCC titles and two Brazilian Jiu Jitsu championships. This is a very dangerous man. At 6-4 and a solid 240, he has the size to submit Fedor in the right circumstances. If the Russian is as bored and out of shape as he looks, if he's been enjoying married life at the expense of training, if he's looking too far forward into a blissful retirement, Werdum could pull off the ultimate upset. If he does, he will have earned the opportunity. In an ideal world we'd see Fedor against Lesnar, Carwin, and Dos Santos. We don't live in that world. Werdum is the best available fighter out there. He's also the guy with the best chance of beating the "Last Emperor." He deserves the shot.
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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #51 on: June 23, 2010, 02:55:47 PM »
berzerkfury owning these tiny tits.

Fedor is #1.  His last 3 fights were against the #2, #3 and #7-10 ranked guy in the world.  No one else in mma comes close to that.  Regardless, all rankings besides Fedor at #1 mean jack shit; before Brock ever fought couture, he had a 2-1 record and was ranked 7th in the world LOL.
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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #52 on: June 23, 2010, 03:03:50 PM »
berzerkfury owning these tiny tits.

Fedor is #1.  His last 3 fights were against the #2, #3 and #7-10 ranked guy in the world.  No one else in mma comes close to that.  Regardless, all rankings besides Fedor at #1 mean jack shit; before Brock ever fought couture, he had a 2-1 record and was ranked 7th in the world LOL.

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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2010, 03:06:53 PM »
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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2010, 03:12:58 PM »
Hickson that article has no credibility because it wasn't written by Dana White, Weight or MS.

You know it and I know it.

Werdum wouldn't last 2 minutes with Check Kongo's grandmother. I am confident in this statement because Kongo fights in the UFC.

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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #55 on: June 23, 2010, 07:32:11 PM »
Hickson that article has no credibility because it wasn't written by Dana White, Weight or MS.

You know it and I know it.

Werdum wouldn't last 2 minutes with Check Kongo's grandmother. I am confident in this statement because Kongo fights in the UFC.

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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #56 on: June 23, 2010, 07:41:08 PM »
FUCK!!!! Owned again!!!! twice in one day!! I feel like creating another account.

that is what mindspin did to make it look like someone other than him has the same opinion.

now as for coltrane, i think he is just trolling or a fucking moron.  one or the other.
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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2010, 05:09:31 AM »
The Great "Mindspin" owned again!

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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #58 on: June 24, 2010, 08:56:49 AM »

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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #59 on: June 24, 2010, 12:09:42 PM »
that is what mindspin did to make it look like someone other than him has the same opinion.

now as for coltrane, i think he is just trolling or a fucking moron.  one or the other.

It could never be the fact that there are several HIGHLY intelligent MMA fans on here could it?

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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #60 on: June 24, 2010, 12:28:08 PM »
The Great "Mindspin" owned again!

How am I being owned ???
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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #61 on: June 24, 2010, 03:18:09 PM »
berzerkfury owning these tiny tits.

Fedor is #1.  His last 3 fights were against the #2, #3 and #7-10 ranked guy in the world.  No one else in mma comes close to that.  Regardless, all rankings besides Fedor at #1 mean jack shit; before Brock ever fought couture, he had a 2-1 record and was ranked 7th in the world LOL.

ya i agree... brock has 5 fights compared to fedors thirty something?? too funny brock is a marketing machine and will lose to carwin by KO first round
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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #62 on: June 24, 2010, 04:32:42 PM »
First off, I'm not sure who started the argument that Brock is better than Fedor.  I sure didn't.  I think that he needs to get through 2-3 of the top heavyweights before that could be argued.

That said, Fedor is NOT the best Heavyweight today.  He is fighting cans and avoiding the UFC roster of legit contenders.  This month, Lesner will put his title on the line against a legitimate top three contender.  Fedor, will again be fighting someone who is taylor made for him and who is ranked 10. 

For the record, I hope both Fedor and Brock lose their fights.  Brock is a complete douche-bag  that needs to be KTFO.  And Fedor is an overhyped fat piece of shit.
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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #63 on: June 24, 2010, 04:43:34 PM »
I'm still waiting for one of the UFC ball lickers to name a UFC HW that has fought 3 top 10 ranked HWs in their last 3 fights. The fact that they continue to avoid that question proves who is really fighting the cans and who isn't.  ;)


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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #64 on: June 24, 2010, 04:51:50 PM »
I'm still waiting for one of the UFC ball lickers to name a UFC HW that has fought 3 top 10 ranked HWs in their last 3 fights. The fact that they continue to avoid that question proves who is really fighting the cans and who isn't.  ;)



Carwins fight with Brock will be his 3rd fight against a top 10 HW. Gonzaga was a top 10 when they fought.

Now answer me this....

When was the last time a #1 ranked guy fought a #10 ranked guy for  title defense?

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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #65 on: June 24, 2010, 04:56:47 PM »
First off, I'm not sure who started the argument that Brock is better than Fedor.  I sure didn't.  I think that he needs to get through 2-3 of the top heavyweights before that could be argued.

That said, Fedor is NOT the best Heavyweight today.  He is fighting cans and avoiding the UFC roster of legit contenders.  This month, Lesner will put his title on the line against a legitimate top three contender.  Fedor, will again be fighting someone who is taylor made for him and who is ranked 10. 

For the record, I hope both Fedor and Brock lose their fights.  Brock is a complete douche-bag  that needs to be KTFO.  And Fedor is an overhyped fat piece of shit.

Well said.

I agree, if Brock and Fedor lose, I will be a very happy MMA fan!

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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #66 on: June 24, 2010, 05:02:02 PM »
Damn, after Fedor's fight against Werdum and then his fight against the #2 HW in the world in Overeem, that will have been 5 straight top 10 HWs he will have fought. Nice way to end the greatest career in MMA history.  8)

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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #67 on: June 24, 2010, 06:02:39 PM »
Damn, after Fedor's fight against Werdum and then his fight against the #2 HW in the world in Overeem, that will have been 5 straight top 10 HWs he will have fought. Nice way to end the greatest career in MMA history.  8)

Skipped my question Chump?

Overeem is not ranked #2 either.

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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #68 on: June 24, 2010, 08:52:24 PM »
I'm still waiting for one of the UFC ball lickers to name a UFC HW that has fought 3 top 10 ranked HWs in their last 3 fights. The fact that they continue to avoid that question proves who is really fighting the cans and who isn't.  ;)



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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #69 on: June 24, 2010, 10:36:01 PM »
once again owning the ufc tiny tits.

Already answered it. CARWIN.

His next fight with Brock will be #3. Gonzaga was ranked when they fought. Then Mir and now Lesnar.

O W N E D

Answer this chump...

When was the last time a #1 ranked guy fought a #10  guy to defend his title?

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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #70 on: June 25, 2010, 10:39:37 AM »
Damn, after Fedor's fight against Werdum and then his fight against the #2 HW in the world in Overeem, that will have been 5 straight top 10 HWs he will have fought. Nice way to end the greatest career in MMA history.  8)

You must have not read the article I posted on another thread.  After the top 5 UFC heavyweights fight each other, they will all have a more established record, which will result in Fedor losing his #1 ranked status.  That will all happen within 6-12 months.  What a glorious day that will be :)
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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #71 on: June 25, 2010, 06:02:47 PM »
Already answered it. CARWIN.

His next fight with Brock will be #3. Gonzaga was ranked when they fought. Then Mir and now Lesnar.

O W N E D

Answer this chump...

When was the last time a #1 ranked guy fought a #10  guy to defend his title?


I do not believe gonzaga was ranked when he fought Carwin.  Gonzaga lost 2 in a row to Couture and WERDUM, then beat justin mccully and josh hendricks (who are they) before losing to Carwin.
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Re: Dana White on Fedor...
« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2010, 10:49:28 AM »
;D

It's funny how quickly Coltrane disappeared when I asked him to answer such a simple question. Too easy.


ahem. 

Mr. Coltrane was in Vegas this past weekend watching your boy Fedor get annihilated.  (in the sportsbook).   

Sorry to rain on your parade.   NOW, any questions?