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Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« on: June 26, 2010, 03:02:46 PM »
Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC

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I am privy to certain details that I just got authorization to release to the public.

Initially, Fedor Emelianenko, the number one heavyweight fighter in the world, secured a deal to sport the always growing and ever popular "TapOut" clothing line at this weekend’s Strikeforce events.

However, during my time here in San Jose, while spending time with very legitimate sources close to the situation, I was advised that certain parties within the UFC halted TapOuts participation in the event and threatened a UFC lifetime ban, if Emelianenko came out wearing their line.

These are probably the most upsetting moves that the UFC makes because rather than a direct move to hurt the competing promotion they are a direct move to hurt both a long time sponsor and fighters. I'd say with this move goes any tiny sliver of hope anyone could have had left that somehow Fedor would end up in the UFC at the conclusion of his Strikeforce contract. And it sounds like Vadim would say the same:

Q: When can fans get Fedor's Tapout shirt:

A: I'm afraid to disappoint the fans, but it seems like, never. Literally today they called me from the TAPOUT firm and told me that they were contacted by the representatives of the UFC, and that under the threat of tearing up all the contracts with their organization demanded that TAPOUT categorically stop producing all the shirts from the line of Fedor Emelianenko.

This is how Dana White feels about Fedor. So tell me, what can we think about such person after this, that even in things that have nothing to do with UFC, he still tries to mess it up for us. So it seems that the shirts will just stay a rarity that fans will see in pictures. Say thanks to UFC and their politics of monopoly.

I'd honestly like to see one of the UFC's big money sponsors make a move to sponsor a Strikeforce card. It'd just be interesting to see if the UFC would pull the same tactics on a company that is bigger than they are, such as Bud Light, of if this is strictly limited to the smaller sponsors that put money in the fighter's pocket rather than the ones that pay the UFC's bills. 

WOW just wow.
what the hell is up with Dana and the UFC banning sponsors that have big names in other companies.
I could never ever believe they would do that to Tap Out. they been together for years. And they would just go and ban them out of the ufc? about 80% of the ufc guys are sponsored by the ufc. most of those guys don't even make 10k a fight either. what the fuck they gonna do if they can't use tap out?
If they were to make an Union, would they be able to wear Tap Out without the ufc being able to tell them not to?
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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2010, 03:10:34 PM »
Yawn. ::)
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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2010, 03:13:00 PM »
care to comment  ;D ;D


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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2010, 03:21:07 PM »
care to comment  ;D ;D


People on this board have been ragging TapOut wearers for years.........now Fedor gets denied a TapOut shirt and some people are upset? Lol.

Everyone should be thankful UFC pulled that chickenshit move, or every 148lb pencil necked geek would be sporting a Fedor shirt and shadowboxing in the gym.
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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2010, 03:27:34 PM »
 :o :o

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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2010, 04:11:59 PM »
The only thing that can save Tapout from reaching an Ed Hardy level of douchebaggery is Fedor's stamp.  Oh well. 

 

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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2010, 04:40:21 PM »
I couldnt care less about Fedors name going on tapout. I own 1 tap out shirt I got as a gift and I never wear it. Having every MMA wanna be douchebag rocking Fedor gear would be beyond gay.

But-- This is probably going to 86 any possibility of Fedor fighting under the UFC banner now, which fucking blows beyond belief.

I really hate Dana White. That arrogant little bald headed cock sucker goes on and on about bringing Fedor in and then he stabs him in the back the day he's fighting someone else+ the UFC doesn't even have a competing event going on ( which would still be messed up, but at least I could understand that from a commercial/ publicity standpoint they would have a legit reason).


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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2010, 06:17:05 PM »
All that proves is that Fedor OWNS Dana's mind.  Dana is so upset that he is doing what he can to ruin Fedor.  Dana is basically a pussy that when he can't get his way he does what he can to get back.  ahaha gotta love it.  The sad thing is Fedor has made millions of dollars without Dana and the UFC and Dana can't handle it.  He doesn't want anyone else to try and make money without the UFC being in charge.
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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2010, 06:26:20 PM »
UFC is the Walmart of MMA.  Not just by having the largest market share, but also providing the cheapest product for white trash across america.
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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2010, 11:09:58 PM »
dana = whiny bitch

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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2010, 11:56:49 PM »
dana = whiny bitch


100% truth..the ufc has to much of a monopoly going on. i'm starting to really dislike the ufc  AND dana white. he may have helped develop mma into what it is today but i think he is just holding it back now
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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2010, 07:06:04 AM »
100% truth..the ufc has to much of a monopoly going on. i'm starting to really dislike the ufc  AND dana white. he may have helped develop mma into what it is today but i think he is just holding it back now

The UFC has too much of a Monopoly huh?

The UFC is the only company that is responsible for the growth of the sport.
They have invested money into sanctioning and legalizing the sport around the world all so that mediocre orgs can take advantage and make a few bucks as well?

"Monopoly's" seem to have worked well in other sports, MLB, NHL, NFL, NBA, etc....

Why will this not work with MMA?

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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2010, 10:35:02 AM »
The UFC has too much of a Monopoly huh?

The UFC is the only company that is responsible for the growth of the sport.
They have invested money into sanctioning and legalizing the sport around the world all so that mediocre orgs can take advantage and make a few bucks as well?

"Monopoly's" seem to have worked well in other sports, MLB, NHL, NFL, NBA, etc....

Why will this not work with MMA?

because dana is a little bitch who screws fighters over?
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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2010, 11:20:49 AM »
because dana is a little bitch who screws fighters over?

Name one MMA fight org that pays more or gives more sponsorship opportunity than the UFC?

The UFC has many fighters that have been under contract for most of their careers.

Wonder why they would stick around if Dana is screwing them?

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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2010, 11:36:26 PM »
Name one MMA fight org that pays more or gives more sponsorship opportunity than the UFC?

The UFC has many fighters that have been under contract for most of their careers.

Wonder why they would stick around if Dana is screwing them?


Same reason Tyson stuck with Don King... what was the saying? you're getting royally screwed if you're with King but you're still making 10x more then the other guy..

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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2010, 08:24:14 PM »
The UFC has too much of a Monopoly huh?

The UFC is the only company that is responsible for the growth of the sport.
They have invested money into sanctioning and legalizing the sport around the world all so that mediocre orgs can take advantage and make a few bucks as well?

"Monopoly's" seem to have worked well in other sports, MLB, NHL, NFL, NBA, etc....

Why will this not work with MMA?



it won't work because in every one of those organizations your have individual owners, A PLAYERS union ect. even though the commissioner runs the organization alot of people have alot of say so how it is ran. dana white runs the ufc like a dictator..he controls everything. honestly would the nfl threaten a sponsor saying if you this you can't be a sponsor of the nfl anymore. he may have take mma mainstream but in the end he will be the one that keeps it from growing because of his greed
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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2010, 07:04:07 AM »
Same reason Tyson stuck with Don King... what was the saying? you're getting royally screwed if you're with King but you're still making 10x more then the other guy..


These guys don't have to fight MMA or with the UFC.

If they so choose, they are under contract with the signed company.

Like the way they run their business or not, hard to feel bad for anyone that signs with a company.

Nobody is forcing them, and the UFC currently gives these guys opportunities that is unmatched in the industry.

The UFC built their brand, they can run it how they want, and nobody is forcing these guys to sign.

The UFC didn't become successful overnight, but suddenly everyone wants a piece of the pie?

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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2010, 07:08:06 AM »


it won't work because in every one of those organizations your have individual owners, A PLAYERS union ect. even though the commissioner runs the organization alot of people have alot of say so how it is ran. dana white runs the ufc like a dictator..he controls everything. honestly would the nfl threaten a sponsor saying if you this you can't be a sponsor of the nfl anymore. he may have take mma mainstream but in the end he will be the one that keeps it from growing because of his greed

Yes. It has happened MANY times in all sports.
 
Dana has a right to run the business the way he wants. The UFC has single handedly made the UFC a mainstream sport.

If someone else can do it better, or wants to start a union, no one is stopping them.
You have to fight adversity, just as the UFC did, to be successful.

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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2010, 11:26:21 PM »
These guys don't have to fight MMA or with the UFC.

If they so choose, they are under contract with the signed company.

Like the way they run their business or not, hard to feel bad for anyone that signs with a company.

Nobody is forcing them, and the UFC currently gives these guys opportunities that is unmatched in the industry.

The UFC built their brand, they can run it how they want, and nobody is forcing these guys to sign.

The UFC didn't become successful overnight, but suddenly everyone wants a piece of the pie?

Bullshit, you're forgetting it's the FIGHTERS THAT MADE THE UFC..not the other way around... dana forgot that, he is a cheap greedy bald little bitch that pays guys change and then makes millions off of them on ppv's and TUF... that cheap guy has the audacity to pay a guy that's on the ppv, fighting..risking his life, $5,000 !?!?! while he collects endless moneey from it ?!!

I hope someone fucking stabs him or runs him over. :)

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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2010, 12:16:07 AM »
Bullshit, you're forgetting it's the FIGHTERS THAT MADE THE UFC..not the other way around... dana forgot that, he is a cheap greedy bald little bitch that pays guys change and then makes millions off of them on ppv's and TUF... that cheap #### has the audacity to pay a guy that's on the ppv, fighting..risking his life, $5,000 !?!?! while he collects endless moneey from it ?!!

I hope someone fucking stabs him or runs him over. :)



Meltdown.

Any guy that feels he is being underpaidis welcome to fight somewhere else for more money. Simple as that.





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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2010, 08:44:54 AM »

Meltdown.

Any guy that feels he is being underpaidis welcome to fight somewhere else for more money. Simple as that.



other than strikeforce, which doesnt make as much money as the ufc, there is virtually no where else to fight besides japan / brazil or one of those small independent orgs.  see the problem with the ufc monopoly?  the fighters have no choice.

Carwin was only paid 40k for his fight / lesnar.
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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2010, 11:03:45 AM »
Bullshit, you're forgetting it's the FIGHTERS THAT MADE THE UFC..not the other way around... dana forgot that, he is a cheap greedy bald little bitch that pays guys change and then makes millions off of them on ppv's and TUF... that cheap #### has the audacity to pay a guy that's on the ppv, fighting..risking his life, $5,000 !?!?! while he collects endless moneey from it ?!!

I hope someone fucking stabs him or runs him over. :)


Mindspin is the only guy who will argue in favor of the UFC taking most of the money and then tell you he doesn't have a vested interest in the organization. Meanwhile, the other 99% of people who actually like MMA as a whole will argue in favor of fighters not named Cock Chestnar making more than chump change.

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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2010, 07:20:35 AM »
other than strikeforce, which doesnt make as much money as the ufc, there is virtually no where else to fight besides japan / brazil or one of those small independent orgs.  see the problem with the ufc monopoly?  the fighters have no choice.

Carwin was only paid 40k for his fight / lesnar.

The UFC/Dana built their brand and made it what it is. Because nobody else can seem to do this with the same success, it is somehow the UFC's fault?

I see no problem. The NFL, MLB, NBA,and NHL seem to be doing just fine as primary orgs.



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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2010, 08:36:19 AM »
Without a legitimate rival organization, White can continue to jerk fighters around and treat them like shit, pay out pennies while accumulating billions, charge outrageous $$$ for PPV events and hold a monopoly over what is an individual-- not team sport.

The NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL= all have tons of television money, revenue sharing amongst the teams, a collective bargaining agreement bw players and owners, minimum league salaries, team salary caps, much longer careers for their players and much higher earning potential etc., etc. etc.-- Not to mention the fact that a midrange MLB, NFL, NBA player makes more than 99.9% of all MMA fighters just based on their salaries. When you throw in endorsements, that .1% becomes 0%.

It is an absolute disgrace that Lesnar became UFC champ with a 3-1 record ( leapfrogging everyone after paying no dues and not being tested), took 6 months off and beat ( which is more like the other guy fainted and Lesnar just layed on top of him-- the fight should have been stopped in round 1 anyway) a game 12-0 opponent for a 6 figure pay day. The game 12-0 opponent took home a lousy $40,000. Which after taxes, paying Greg Jackson, expenses and whatever else, is more like a net gain of 15k.  Will anybody complain? Of course not. They don't want to get axed by White. Only guys like Anderson Silva-- who is way too valuable for White to cut, can get away with doing whatever he wants. Everyone else watch out.  

Yes White deserves credit for bringing the UFC out of the dungeon and into the mainstream ( which had almost everything to do with inserting basic rules, the collapse of PRIDE and starting TUF + nothing else), but he is not a genius or pioneer by any stretch of the imagination. He is nothing more than a crooked fight promoter with two billionares backing him up. He doesn't answer to anybody and he can do whatever he wants. Somehow, I don't think we will see David Stern insulting basketball players that choose to play in Europe, or the commissioner of the NHL bad mouthing Olympic hockey players from Sweden or Russia that play in their home countries instead of America.  


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Re: Fedor Emelianenko's Tapout Deal Sunk by UFC
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2010, 09:21:09 AM »
Without a legitimate rival organization, White can continue to jerk fighters around and treat them like shit, pay out pennies while accumulating billions, charge outrageous $$$ for PPV events and hold a monopoly over what is an individual-- not team sport.

The NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL= all have tons of television money, revenue sharing amongst the teams, a collective bargaining agreement bw players and owners, minimum league salaries, team salary caps, much longer careers for their players and much higher earning potential etc., etc. etc.-- Not to mention the fact that a midrange MLB, NFL, NBA player makes more than 99.9% of all MMA fighters just based on their salaries. When you throw in endorsements, that .1% becomes 0%.

It is an absolute disgrace that Lesnar became UFC champ with a 3-1 record ( leapfrogging everyone after paying no dues and not being tested), took 6 months off and beat ( which is more like the other guy fainted and Lesnar just layed on top of him-- the fight should have been stopped in round 1 anyway) a game 12-0 opponent for a 6 figure pay day. The game 12-0 opponent took home a lousy $40,000. Which after taxes, paying Greg Jackson, expenses and whatever else, is more like a net gain of 15k.  Will anybody complain? Of course not. They don't want to get axed by White. Only guys like Anderson Silva-- who is way too valuable for White to cut, can get away with doing whatever he wants. Everyone else watch out.  

Yes White deserves credit for bringing the UFC out of the dungeon and into the mainstream ( which had almost everything to do with inserting basic rules, the collapse of PRIDE and starting TUF + nothing else), but he is not a genius or pioneer by any stretch of the imagination. He is nothing more than a crooked fight promoter with two billionares backing him up. He doesn't answer to anybody and he can do whatever he wants. Somehow, I don't think we will see David Stern insulting basketball players that choose to play in Europe, or the commissioner of the NHL bad mouthing Olympic hockey players from Sweden or Russia that play in their home countries instead of America.  



You are forgetting to mention one HUGE thing...the UFC/MMA is relatively young compared to the MLB, NHL, NBA and NFL.
ALL of these orgs built what they have today over time, with MANY, MANY mistakes along the way.

Bottom line is, it took a "monopoly" to make them successful.