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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2010, 10:21:20 PM »
i thought so too, thats why if your out a sec they wait another 1 or 2 to see what you do and brock regained composure and held defense, let carwin punch himself out, ali used to do it.  if the punches aren't that devastating and you can take them, good defense is let the guy wear himself out, save strength and then,,,,
thats the issue.....carwin won on that basis.....

its not a win or lose thing for the fight...i couldnt care less who won(i thought carwin would)

its a safety issue....look at carwins last fight with mir....they waited way too long to call it......look at the last strikeforce event with cyborg. that fight should have been stopped way earlier......these refs need to stop dicken around before one of these big org's have a death on their hands...

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2010, 10:22:38 PM »
if carwin had got his ass beat first round and then won by submission, you all (fickle people) would be saying he "has superior submission skills" and "hung through the first round like a champ" and "all lesnar could do was brawl"

basically if we just switched their names you wouldn't know the difference

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2010, 10:24:07 PM »
if carwin had got his ass beat first round and then won by submission, you all (fickle people) would be saying he "has superior submission skills" and "hung through the first round like a champ" and "all lesnar could do was brawl"

basically if we just switched their names you wouldn't know the difference
neither one of them have skills.....they are both just wrestlers...

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2010, 10:31:07 PM »
if lesnar woulda done the F5 carwin would be dead right now

oh and lesnar is not the toughest SOB around because stone cold was in the audience

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2010, 10:53:32 PM »
^ ten four on the stone cold comment, he was definitely the toughest s o b in the house as far as i could tell.

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2010, 10:58:51 PM »
^ ten four on the stone cold comment, he was definitely the toughest s o b in the house as far as i could tell.
i dont know....i saw a female in the audience that looked to have a higher test count than me when i was in NPC ;D

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2010, 11:01:03 PM »
these refs need to stop dicken around before one of these big org's have a death on their hands...

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NOTHING worse then a early stoppage though. Well death might be up there but.. lol

but especially in champ matchen they should make SURE to give them all the chances to move before they stop it etc.
RAther just a little bit too late the too early especially in a title fight

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2010, 11:14:41 PM »
thats the issue.....carwin won on that basis.....

its not a win or lose thing for the fight...i couldnt care less who won(i thought carwin would)

its a safety issue....look at carwins last fight with mir....they waited way too long to call it......look at the last strikeforce event with cyborg. that fight should have been stopped way earlier......these refs need to stop dicken around before one of these big org's have a death on their hands...

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     disagree. its a fight. just because you get rocked for a second, its a fight, that happens, whats important is what happens after you get rocked, all different levels of rocked,, if you continue to stay the same or get worse, no "intelligent" defense or even muster some type of strike, then its over, that was almost what happened but after he got rocked for a sec, he regained senses and held on. its a fight and people get rocked, btw carwin couldnt put him away and he had control to do so.

     most importantly above all else, it's a business, most important, no way was that fight getting stopped pre-mature, unless it was a horrific beating brock was getting, just constant hard face shots with no guard at all, then it woulda got stopped.  they're fighters, it's a hw title bout, people all over world and fans paid money to see, ref was smart to let it keep going,,, brock it 6 whatever 260 whatever, one more punch, although it could, wouldn't make that much difference if he was ko'd.

     lastly, the money that would have to be paid to grease a fighter in something like this must be astronomical amount because of the short and long term money that could be made off a possible win.  it's partly the reason why athletes are paid well because it detours them from taking dives for short term money.

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2010, 11:36:02 PM »
hahhah coach voted for carwin to win, i voted for brock, i win i know more about mma than coach.



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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2010, 11:39:13 PM »
btw carwin couldnt put him away and he had control to do so.

An important fact alot of haters are overlooking.

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2010, 11:40:59 PM »
brock was out for a second in the first round when he was getting demolished, the ref should have stopped it not sure why he let it go on with brock just letting carwin sack him
Anyone else and they would of stopped it.


Brocks a beast, but come on. ::)

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2010, 11:41:44 PM »
I could give a crap who won....I didn't even know it was on until I saw it on ESPN

That being said......Swede is now the biggest homo on this site, bigger than JTsunami  :D

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2010, 11:43:05 PM »
Anyone else and they would of stopped it.


Brocks a beast, but come on. ::)
In a championship fight they always let it go a little longer. Regardless, Brock was getting the shit knocked out of his head, if Carwin had it in him to KO him, he would have.

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2010, 11:43:43 PM »
I could give a crap who won....I didn't even know it was on until I saw it on ESPN

That being said......Swede is now the biggest homo on this site, bigger than JTsunami  :D

No way....JT has every homo beat on here by a long shot.

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2010, 11:44:57 PM »
I could give a crap who won....I didn't even know it was on until I saw it on ESPN

That being said......Swede is now the biggest homo on this site, bigger than JTsunami  :D
No.

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2010, 11:46:01 PM »
No way....JT has every homo beat on here by a long shot.

That is true...... JTsunami is so gay his computer is probably HIV positive

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #41 on: July 03, 2010, 11:47:12 PM »
No.

I'll give you a close second, but that jtsunami fag will reign supreme as the biggest knob polisher ever to put a keyboard in his ass and post with his prostate.

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #42 on: July 03, 2010, 11:50:02 PM »
No.

I'll give you a close second, but that jtsunami fag will reign supreme as the biggest knob polisher ever to put a keyboard in his ass and post with his prostate.

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2010, 11:52:04 PM »
JT is so gay if he shoved a vuvuzela up his ass and farted it would sound like a foghorn!

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2010, 12:01:37 AM »
After watching the fight....The fight was not fixed or I guess that would have been a big Oopppsss if Carwin would have knocked out Brock in the 1st...With that said, Fedor needs to come to UFC like yesterday and kick the shit out of Lesner....
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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #45 on: July 04, 2010, 12:06:11 AM »
JT is so gay, when someone asked him about his protein intake, he replied, "I swallow 2.5 loads/lb of body weight everyday."

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #46 on: July 04, 2010, 12:14:51 AM »
Lol. Even Rogan said, hes fine in this position, hes fine.. wait, uh... it over.  ::)
LMAO sorry bro epic misunderstanding and ignorance of grappling...when lesner first got the choke he didnt have it sinked in and whats his face was just fine when he tightened it up and started to apply leverage to him by getting up a little he had him instantly...it was really only a matter of time when lesner got his arms clenched before he was going to have a full on side choke...

whats his face should have won though I will say, this fight really shows that lesnar cant take a punch for shit...if the other guy could have defended against the take down or at the very least been able to grid lock lesnar on the ground he would have won...

both of their conditioning sucked

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #47 on: July 04, 2010, 12:19:08 AM »
LMAO sorry bro epic misunderstanding and ignorance of grappling...when lesner first got the choke he didnt have it sinked in and whats his face was just fine when he tightened it up and started to apply leverage to him by getting up a little he had him instantly...it was really only a matter of time when lesner got his arms clenched before he was going to have a full on side choke...

whats his face should have won though I will say, this fight really shows that lesnar cant take a punch for shit...if the other guy could have defended against the take down or at the very least been able to grid lock lesnar on the ground he would have won...

both of their conditioning sucked
Gotta disagree here, Carwin was the KO artist everyone said would expose Brocks weak chin, Brock took a beating and kept going, how is that not taking a punch? His reaction to the incoming punches was hilarious, but he still took them.

As far as conditioning, how can you say Brocks conditioning was off? He got his ass kicked for the first round, then came back the second round, got the take down and the submission.......seemed like Brock was A OK even after getting beat up the first round, Carwin on the other hand, was gassed and it was obvious.
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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #48 on: July 04, 2010, 12:19:52 AM »
LMAO sorry bro epic misunderstanding and ignorance of grappling...when lesner first got the choke he didnt have it sinked in and whats his face was just fine when he tightened it up and started to apply leverage to him by getting up a little he had him instantly...it was really only a matter of time when lesner got his arms clenched before he was going to have a full on side choke...

whats his face should have won though I will say, this fight really shows that lesnar cant take a punch for shit...if the other guy could have defended against the take down or at the very least been able to grid lock lesnar on the ground he would have won...

both of their conditioning sucked

^^^that. Besides Lesner had no choice but to got to the ground. Even though they weighed the same, Lesner was too heavily muscled to keep his arms up during his stand up. Carwin absolutely kicked the f**k out of him in the first round.

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Re: CARWIN JUST THREW THE FIGHT
« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2010, 12:20:53 AM »
After watching the fight....The fight was not fixed or I guess that would have been a big Oopppsss if Carwin would have knocked out Brock in the 1st...With that said, Fedor needs to come to UFC like yesterday and kick the shit out of Lesner....
I honestly didnt think the black guy boxer whatever his name is had a chance against lesnar but after seeing lesner ball up like a little girl after getting hit I could see a boxer beating his ass.