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Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« on: July 04, 2010, 06:40:49 PM »
I hear this all the time but never receive an explanation?  So some guys that are smart in nutrition, please enlighten me...BTW be prepared for follow-up questions.
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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2010, 06:42:12 PM »
mostly just because they're cheaper and some shakes are fakes

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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2010, 06:45:39 PM »
mostly just because they're cheaper and some shakes are fakes

Lets assume the shakes are real.  I know it's not just because of the price.
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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2010, 06:48:14 PM »
Theory is shakes have a higher Glycimic Index than whole foods.  I will argue this any day of the week.

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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2010, 06:48:55 PM »
If I had to hazard a guess I would just say, 'because'.
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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2010, 07:01:23 PM »
Lets assume the shakes are real.  I know it's not just because of the price.
squats are known to be better for legs than leg presses, although basically it's the same movement except presses are easier

shakes are too easy and convienient, instead dry oatmeal and unflavored chicken breast will make you bigger



























actually some supps are just as good, but just think if you told a beginner that. then he would never eat food, just loads of vpx and muscletech crap. and personally my body will get tired of the same protein shakes week after week, and my body just quits responding, food never fails or contains proprietary blends

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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2010, 07:05:03 PM »
would you take prohormones when you had HG steroids?

so why would you rely on shakes, when you have real food?


........i drink 6-7 shakes a day, and only eat around 2-3 meals a day......i drink shakes because i honestly like them....and cause i only sleep about 2.5 hours a night, and if i cooked every time i was hungry i would likely end up killing someone...

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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2010, 07:11:39 PM »
would you take prohormones when you had HG steroids?

so why would you rely on shakes, when you have real food?


........i drink 6-7 shakes a day, and only eat around 2-3 meals a day......i drink shakes because i honestly like them....and cause i only sleep about 2.5 hours a night, and if i cooked every time i was hungry i would likely end up killing someone...

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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2010, 07:13:52 PM »
talk about the green apple shits, through a screen door
nah.....shakes never really did that to me

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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2010, 08:11:21 PM »
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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2010, 09:28:36 PM »
All the guys I see who look great at any age and have excellent muscle memory get the majority of their protein from whole foods.

I'd guess shakes actually hydrate you far better. Everyone here knows damn well how fast changes happen when shakes are discontinued but it makes perfect sense considering how muscle holds water better than fat. Shakes are a lot easier, though. :)

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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2010, 09:46:46 PM »
i question this also


i read the other day somewhere that we only absorb like 13-17% of protein from shakes.........it this bullshit...........is this the same with whole food


and does that mean that if we drink a 200 calorie protein shake..........we only absorb 13=17% of the calories from it,........or is that number just how much of the protein could be utilized to promote anabolism and the rest of the calories go toward gluco-neogenesis or whatever


if you were to simplify you diet, and drink all you protein through shakes.............woudl the result be different then if you were to get them from real food (i know whole foods have vitamins and minerals not present in shakes)  but save for that is there really a difference???


someone with knowledge please speak on this???

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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2010, 09:54:59 PM »
From what i have gathered, it has to do with micro nutrients.  When you eat whole foods like chicken or beef or beans you dont just get the proteins, you get a ton of other micro nutrients that shakes and other processed foods just dont have.

could be wrong but makes sense to me.  You are just healthier by eating more natural foods then processed.

One a side note, i drink the hell outa myoplex (cookies and cream) ready drinks from HEB.  I guess i have been conditioned for past decade or so to drink protein shakes if you cant get a good meal in.......
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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2010, 09:59:38 PM »
From what i have gathered, it has to do with micro nutrients.  When you eat whole foods like chicken or beef or beans you dont just get the proteins, you get a ton of other micro nutrients that shakes and other processed foods just dont have.

could be wrong but makes sense to me.  You are just healthier by eating more natural foods then processed.

You nailed it, plus I'm sure there are some benefits to your body processing and breaking down the food as opposed to just drinking the liquid shake and it being absorbed (different forms of absorption)

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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2010, 10:02:23 PM »
getbiggers are over  this shit i.e. cynical that is why  ;)

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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2010, 10:48:24 PM »
I hear this all the time but never receive an explanation?  So some guys that are smart in nutrition, please enlighten me...BTW be prepared for follow-up questions.

apart from the thermic effect eating whole foods provide, and the feeling of satiation, there is no difference from getting your protein from whole foods or shakes.

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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2010, 11:22:21 PM »
Whole foods are also more thermogenic that supplement shakes.   

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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2010, 12:21:43 AM »
There was this Flex article years ago on Chris Duffy....he was a pro at the time and he went on and on about how he loved the shakes....he literally lived on them....8 or 10 a day of these calorie-monsters per day


It's obvious to me ------> consuming nothing but shakes is the first sign of turning into a gaylord bitch boy





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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2010, 12:25:42 AM »
There was this Flex article years ago on Chris Duffy....he was a pro at the time and he went on and on about how he loved the shakes....he literally lived on them....8 or 10 a day of these calorie-monsters per day


It's obvious to me ------> consuming nothing but shakes is the first sign of turning into a gaylord bitch boy






LOL...I was gonna say aint that one of the guys that did gay porn?
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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2010, 06:49:24 AM »
You nailed it, plus I'm sure there are some benefits to your body processing and breaking down the food as opposed to just drinking the liquid shake and it being absorbed (different forms of absorption)


Yep. I was going to post something similar, but that about says it all.
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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2010, 08:56:30 AM »




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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2010, 09:02:36 AM »
Shakes are fast absorbed where as a steak's protein may take several hours

Plus shakes make you hungry

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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2010, 09:04:53 AM »
No an Oreo Cookie shake from DQ is the best.
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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2010, 09:56:27 AM »
No an Oreo Cookie shake from DQ is the best.

Shit like that gets too fattening.

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Re: Enlighten me....Why are whole foods better than shakes?
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2010, 10:03:53 AM »
A calorie is a calorie, correct??  :D
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