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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #125 on: July 19, 2010, 07:53:23 PM »
You've said yourself that Dorian shouldn't have won in 97....but he did.  :)



shhhh..

ND likes to pretend he never said that..

but we all know he did many times.

poor ND.
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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #126 on: July 19, 2010, 07:54:19 PM »
ronnie's back in 99 has yet to be equalled:
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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #127 on: July 19, 2010, 07:55:57 PM »


here's those striated quads some one wanted, it's so painfull for team dorian to view such graphic images

Go learn what striations are kid , much to learn you do  ;)

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #128 on: July 19, 2010, 07:58:37 PM »
no excuses. just very poor conditioning and less mass in important places relative to later years like 99:

see for yourself:

and besides, everyone knows dorian should have lost in 97. years ago before you got dorian's cock shoved completely down your throat even you admitted this many times and were quoted on it by me and many others at the time.

We're talking about SHAPE moron , SHAPE and who cares about 1997? I don't I've said many times give it to Nasser it doesn't mean shit what did he accomplish ? beating a career worse Yates yip-pee  ::)

keep 97 , Dorian at his best beats Ronnie & Nasser

so you fail as usual

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #129 on: July 19, 2010, 07:59:34 PM »
Go learn what striations are kid , much to learn you do  ;)

go and learn about the difference between seperation and striations.

ronnie's quads were more striated in the mid 90's. but not nearly as seperated.

the cuts between the four quad muscles were as deep as a sword slash in 99..not so in 96:

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #130 on: July 19, 2010, 08:00:50 PM »
shhhh..

ND likes to pretend he never said that..

but we all know he did many times.

poor ND.

Like Hulkster who said Dorian lost in 1993 one of the most dominating Olympia performances EVER

Hulkster likes to pretend he never said that ..

but I keep reminding everyone he did many times  ;)

dumbass  ;D

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #131 on: July 19, 2010, 08:03:49 PM »
Like Hulkster who said Dorian lost in 1993 one of the most dominating Olympia performances EVER

Hulkster likes to pretend he never said that ..

but I keep reminding everyone he did many times  ;)

dumbass  ;D

no, I stated many times that given the new visuals (pics and vids that came out later) dorian did in fact deserve to win.

see, unlike you, I constantly revise my opinions based on the evidence.

you made your opinion years ago and it never changes no matter what new evidence is presented.

hence, why you are such a laughing stock.

you ignore all evidence that damages your position and sweep it all under the carpet.

a very bad thing..
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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #132 on: July 19, 2010, 08:04:45 PM »
We're talking about SHAPE moron , SHAPE and who cares about 1997? I don't I've said many times give it to Nasser it doesn't mean shit what did he accomplish ? beating a career worse Yates yip-pee  ::)

keep 97 , Dorian at his best beats Ronnie & Nasser

so you fail as usual

Not the point Slim. ;)

you said that politics isn't a factor when you have admitted yourself that Dorian received a gift.


Dorian NEVER looked like this, this is the best physique ever to set foot on a BBing stage


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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #133 on: July 19, 2010, 08:05:34 PM »
You've said yourself that Dorian shouldn't have won in 97....but he did.  :)



Oh so now you need me to be an authority huh? I said dorian should have lost in 1993 until I learned how contests were judged then I understood how much he dominated

like I said take 1997 give it to Nasser it wouldn't mean much and I said he shouldn't have won but Nasser didn't beat him  ;)

you can't have it both ways either all contests are fixed or none , they're fixed when you don't like the winner and are accurate when they do , hypocritical to say the least.

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #134 on: July 19, 2010, 08:13:02 PM »
Oh so now you need me to be an authority huh? I said dorian should have lost in 1993 until I learned how contests were judged then I understood how much he dominated

like I said take 1997 give it to Nasser it wouldn't mean much and I said he shouldn't have won but Nasser didn't beat him  ;)

you can't have it both ways either all contests are fixed or none , they're fixed when you don't like the winner and are accurate when they do , hypocritical to say the least.

I'm not saying any of that.....there have been many dubious decisions on an Olympia stage....it's fact. i don't dispute it and i don't complain one way or the other....I really don't care.

You're the hypocrite who wants to glaze over the fact that Dorian was no different and got his share of gifts too.

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #135 on: July 19, 2010, 08:14:11 PM »
Says the guy relying a home-made comparison chart where Dorian has smaller waist , hips and joints than Ronnie , and Ronnie has bigger calves LMFAO

this is your proof Ronnie is better  ::)
you're hopeless now those pictures just kill you, so you make up excuses.

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #136 on: July 20, 2010, 03:27:22 AM »
you're hopeless now those pictures just kill you, so you make up excuses.

yup.

its always them vs. the visuals.

dorian's physique on its own was never good enough to overcome peak ronnie.

and they know it.

hence, all the bullshit excuses.. ::)

if dorian's physique was clearly better, they wouldn't have to post all this shit.

but they have to.

its just no use:
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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #137 on: July 20, 2010, 06:50:48 AM »
Hulkster we have had to listen to you obsess over Ronnie for a half of a decade. Thats abnormal. Enough is a enough.

We both know that if (a big if) Wolf decides to train heavy, and diet right, he will eclipse Ronnie




 

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #138 on: July 20, 2010, 06:55:38 AM »
And Chris Cormier shoudve been 2nd in 1999. Flex was loaded with oil in calves, delts, and arms.


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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #139 on: July 20, 2010, 07:10:00 AM »
I got the impression that even at the 3rd tier shows you can find backs right up there with Colemans these days.



These days? You act as if Coleman competed as a pro in the 80s or something. The man's last Olympia was less than three years ago. He placed 4th, CERTAINTLY NOT DUE to lack of size but conditioning and apparent injuries or nerve damage to certain muscles.


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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #140 on: July 20, 2010, 08:19:08 AM »
Dorian at his fucking worse

I turned up the brightness of these pics ONLY because they were to dark

Apparently turning down the brightness is "photoshopping". Why don't you just make it black and white  ::)

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #141 on: July 20, 2010, 09:13:14 AM »
These days? You act as if Coleman competed as a pro in the 80s or something. The man's last Olympia was less than three years ago. He placed 4th, CERTAINTLY NOT DUE to lack of size but conditioning and apparent injuries or nerve damage to certain muscles.




Intriguingly he still beat an all time best Dennis Wolf even with only half a functioning body.

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #142 on: July 20, 2010, 09:35:42 AM »
I'm not saying any of that.....there have been many dubious decisions on an Olympia stage....it's fact. i don't dispute it and i don't complain one way or the other....I really don't care.

You're the hypocrite who wants to glaze over the fact that Dorian was no different and got his share of gifts too.

Can you get any more wrong? how am I hypocritical if I said I don't think Dorian should have won in 1997? that defies logic , and in fact I've said many times give 97 to Nasser it doesn't mean much in the context of who is better at their best. so you're flat-out wrong on this as well.

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #143 on: July 20, 2010, 09:38:10 AM »
Apparently turning down the brightness is "photoshopping". Why don't you just make it black and white  ::)
We were talking about sharpening, and contrast, if you were talking about those 99 pics, not brightness. Besides, not like Horton himself called BS on those things.  ::)

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #144 on: July 20, 2010, 09:39:31 AM »
Not the point Slim. ;)

you said that politics isn't a factor when you have admitted yourself that Dorian received a gift.


Dorian NEVER looked like this, this is the best physique ever to set foot on a BBing stage



Dorian never looked like that? he didn't need to he never looked like this either yet handed him his ass in grand fashion , your ' shape ' theory is null and void , Flex kills Ronnie in shape and that did what for him against Dorian?  ;)

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #145 on: July 20, 2010, 09:41:46 AM »
Arguably tho ND I believe Ronnie would be a much closer contest to Dorian than flex, due to Ronnie having a combo of size and shape flex never did.

I still think Dorians mass+conditioning+balance combo would beat out Ronnie's mass+not quite as good conditioning+shape combo.

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #146 on: July 20, 2010, 09:44:05 AM »
you're hopeless now those pictures just kill you, so you make up excuses.

You can't even get what year is his best right and you're crowing about fan-boy ' comparisons '

and like Hulkster when stymied by facts you just post the old ' excuses ' line


fact is Ronnie's calves were never bigger than Dorians
fact is Dorian's joints were never smaller than Ronnies
fact is Dorian's hips & waist were never smaller than Ronnie's
fact is those ' comparisons ' are not an accurate representation of reality

fact is Dorian handed Ronnie his ass for years and years , facts aren't your friend

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #147 on: July 20, 2010, 09:47:41 AM »
Apparently turning down the brightness is "photoshopping". Why don't you just make it black and white  ::)

Apparently using the un-sharp mask tool is photoshopping , adjusting the color contrast and hue is photoshopping , all the while trying to say you never did it , I on the otherhand took a shitty compressed screengrab from a youtube video which was very dark as said all I did was turn up the brightness , NO DECEPTION attempted .

learn the difference  ;)

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #148 on: July 20, 2010, 09:48:44 AM »
Dorian never looked like that? he didn't need to he never looked like this either yet handed him his ass in grand fashion , your ' shape ' theory is null and void , Flex kills Ronnie in shape and that did what for him against Dorian?  ;)


Blah Blah Blah...apples and oranges, taking shit out of context, IGNORING other things......it's like talking to a ten year old girl.

Seriously....my daughter states her case better than you do

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Re: Is Colemans back still special by todays standards??
« Reply #149 on: July 20, 2010, 09:50:21 AM »
We were talking about sharpening, and contrast, if you were talking about those 99 pics, not brightness. Besides, not like Horton himself called BS on those things.  ::)

beat me to it lol idiots can't tell the difference especially when they lied about the pics too and then get busted using them as ' proof ' hahahahahaha

then Hulkster the complete dummy provides two links to videos in which the guy who was busted by Kevin Horton for photoshopping them as ' proof '

2 independent sources LMFAO what a complete moron  ;D