Cops on Juice...

[affeman]

Tons of cops are on the juice, so what? You can talk about hypocrisy and stuff like that, but still, these guys have to face scum everyday and have to be able to defend themselves and innocents, so a certain physical presence won't hurt in that job.

Like DK said, they're only human. There are also doctors who are chainsmokers, alcoholics and drug users, and tell their patients with a straight face how bad all of that stuff is.

[pellius]

Tons of cops are on the juice, so what? You can talk about hypocrisy and stuff like that, but still, these guys have to face scum everyday and have to be able to defend themselves and innocents, so a certain physical presence won't hurt in that job.

Like DK said, they're only human. There are also doctors who are chainsmokers, alcoholics and drug users, and tell their patients with a straight face how bad all of that stuff is.

I'm not sure if this was directed at me but I have no issue with cops or anyone else using steroids. What someone does to themselves is none of my business.

[Parker]

As was told to me---"You have dudes in prison who have nothing but time on their hands. And what do they do, they work out and plot what they are gonna do when they get out. So, what are you gonna do. You have jacked up dudes who come right out prison, right out the box, jacked. Now take your average cop, can he handle that on the street"

[devilsmile]

As was told to me---"You have dudes in prison who have nothing but time on their hands. And what do they do, they work out and plot what they are gonna do when they get out. So, what are you gonna do. You have jacked up dudes who come right out prison, right out the box, jacked. Now take your average cop, can he handle that on the street"

I don't think so... all the prison documents i see they are 23h lock down with super observation in ALL prisons... if they are lucky they have 30 minutes time to workout in ENTIRE FUCKING WEEK!!!!

it's because the training yards are full with badest individuals who are allowed to train... if you go to the prison you you will jsut stand still on the playfield among thousands of others with no room to do shit....... I'd say one out of million becomes jacked in prison, I won't believe untill I see pictures.

The jacked ones are like... how do i say ... like... "chosen ones"...

[affeman]

I don't think so... all the prison documents i see they are 23h lock down with super observation in ALL prisons... if they are lucky they have 30 minutes time to workout in ENTIRE FUCKING WEEK!!!!

it's because the training yards are full with badest individuals who are allowed to train... if you go to the prison you you will jsut stand still on the playfield among thousands of others with no room to do shit....... I'd say one out of million becomes jacked in prison, I won't believe untill I see pictures.

The jacked ones are like... how do i say ... like... "chosen ones"...

Absolutely true. In most prisons the prisoners have to file a request first to even use the weight room, and when they're allowed they can use it like once a week. Furthermore they have no way to juice in prison, and the prison-food is low in calories and almost protein-free.

Whoever thinks there are just super-jacked n*ggaz in jail, is definetely watching too many bad movies and series. The pure thought of someone getting jacked in prison is completely laughable.

[DK II]

Absolutely true. In most prisons the prisoners have to file a request to use the weight room in prison first, and when they're allowed they can use it like once a week. Furthermore they have no way to juice in prison, and the prison-food is low in calories and almost protein-free.

Whoever thinks there are just super-jacked guys in jail, is definetely watching too many bad movies and series. The pure thought of someone getting jacked in prison is completely laughable.

Stallone was jacked in "Lock-Up", and so was JCVD in AWOL, are you telling me these movies lie?? 

[devilsmile]

Absolutely true. In most prisons the prisoners have to file a request first to even use the weight room, and when they're allowed they can use it like once a week. Furthermore they have no way to juice in prison, and the prison-food is low in calories and almost protein-free.

Whoever thinks there are just super-jacked n*ggaz in jail, is definetely watching too many bad movies and series. The pure thought of someone getting jacked in prison is completely laughable.

weightlifting IN prison... actually.

part one and two, interesting, they are actually lifting heavy shit! I guess it's due to their EXTREMELEY good behavour, the prison guard said that it's very dangerous to have all these inmates in one place because they have had lots of shit between them in the past, BUT, they all know, that if anything happends in there, the gym is no more forever... so I guess this is an exception but... you know, still ammazing, watch the document, it's very good.

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[Pollux]

ronnie made it look cool.

This clip is not in it's entirety. There's a scene where Ronnie arrests a teenage girl and she's all crying and shit. 

[devilsmile]

weightlifting IN prison... actually.

part one and two, interesting, they are actually lifting heavy shit! I guess it's due to their EXTREMELEY good behavour, the prison guard said that it's very dangerous to have all these inmates in one place because they have had lots of shit between them in the past, BUT, they all know, that if anything happends in there, the gym is no more forever... so I guess this is an exception but... you know, still ammazing, watch the document, it's very good.

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wiggs puting it on

[mazrim]

The local steroid dealer where I live asked some of his friends that were cops what would happen. They told him that they would normally either just take it for themselves or let him go if he claimed personal usage.

[Agnostic007]

Good question - Does a cop on steroids arrest someone for having steroids..  Based on my experience, and I'm just surmizing here because in 17 yrs of police work, I can't recall coming across anyone with steroids, nor any of my partners, I would say they would not arrest them if it is personal use and it was not apparent on video. In the past, before we video taped everything, it was not uncommon for cops from my department to let people go for small amounts of pot, and the cops didn't smoke it. They would just ground it into the dirt. I would imagine they would first verify it wasn't some other illegal drug before doing that. And as far as cops on juice, it probably varies department to department depending on testing, culture, professionalism etc etc. We have 1600 cops, none look to obviously be on steroids but there could be a few. I know in the past 17 yrs, I can recall 3 that I'm 99% sure took them. 2 have since moved on, 1 is still here, but has dropped 30 lbs of muscle and is into crossfit training and probably stopped. Now HRT......you can't swing a dead cat around here...      

[The Showstoppa]

It all depends...if the cop is smacking me, I say hell no....but if he's putting the boots to some undesirable shitbag....then hell yeah!

[Parker]

I don't think so... all the prison documents i see they are 23h lock down with super observation in ALL prisons... if they are lucky they have 30 minutes time to workout in ENTIRE FUCKING WEEK!!!!

it's because the training yards are full with badest individuals who are allowed to train... if you go to the prison you you will jsut stand still on the playfield among thousands of others with no room to do shit....... I'd say one out of million becomes jacked in prison, I won't believe untill I see pictures.

The jacked ones are like... how do i say ... like... "chosen ones"...

I used to work in a office that was in a jail, and many of the dudes that pulling a lil time were deisel mofos. I'm not talking that bulky look, I'm talking ripped bis and tris and abs, with big chests. Also, I had talked to a nurse who worked at Rikers, and she said there were tons of ripped up, deisel dudes who had girlfriends visiting them, but the dudes were doing more than spotting their inmate partners..."that's not hemmoroids..."

[devilsmile]

I used to work in a office that was in a jail, and many of the dudes that pulling a lil time were deisel mofos. I'm not talking that bulky look, I'm talking ripped bis and tris and abs, with big chests. Also, I had talked to a nurse who worked at Rikers, and she said there were tons of ripped up, deisel dudes who had girlfriends visiting them, but the dudes were doing more than spotting their inmate partners..."that's not hemmoroids..."

hmmmmh..... allright then, can't argue with that.

I guess human body will adapt to almost anything... if the only thing it does is being in physical presure with low calories and carbs, it will become muscular/strong with low bodyfat...

and i think johnnynoname wants more info about the spoting..

[noworries]

The cops in Hawaii are the biggest I have ever seen.  There are some little ones but they gotta have the most big cops of any force in the US.  And most of the prison guards are huge too.  I remember after the OJ trial and they were anticipating trouble in Waikiki.  I went down there and they had to have had every 300 lb person in Hawaii wearing a uniform working Waikiki that day.  No way in the world was anyone going to start trouble. 

[Van_Bilderass]

Cops should be held to a higher standard. A paid protector of the law using illegal drugs, busting others for crimes he commits himself every day? Fuck that! They should be punished harder than average folk too if busted for something like steroids. Have a corrupt LE and there is zero trust from the public, it's just another criminal gang, only this one protected. Fuck them.

[ThaRealist]

Pay is shit? Try to become a cop in California. You start at nearly 60 grand and by the time you're five years on the force you can pull six figures with OT. Not to mention the sweet pension plan that you can get at 50 if you put in enough years.

Now why is Cali broke again?

My bro-in-law is a cop in southern cali and he does pretty well. Certain areas you can do well as the po-po

[noworries]

My bro-in-law is a cop in southern cali and he does pretty well. Certain areas you can do well as the po-po

My brother is a CHP and retires in Dec. with 30 years.  He is 55 years old.  I went to his wedding in 1996.  There were a little over 200 people.  200 of them were cops from all over.  He is a very well known cop probably more for his size.  When he became a cop he 6'6" and weighed 300+ lbs.  He has college degree and everything.  Very athletic.  Ran a 5.1 40 yard in full pads (football).  If you are a cop in Southern Cal and especially a CHP you know my brother.  he is was based in South Central and for the past 10 years or so he is down in Temecula.  He is known as Robocop and Dinosaur.  He makes alot of money.  He is a workaholic.  Overtime and court as much as possible.  He takes his vacations every year where he travels to a different country and play golf.  He has played on courses all over the world.  Now at a relatively young age he will be retired and be able to play everyday now.  His wife is an RN.  Back 96' he was making well over $100,000.  Any cop on here or CHP can easily verify what I say.  If you talk to him tell it is nice he stays in contact.

[The Showstoppa]

My brother is a CHP and retires in Dec. with 30 years.  He is 55 years old.  I went to his wedding in 1996.  There were a little over 200 people.  200 of them were cops from all over.  He is a very well known cop probably more for his size.  When he became a cop he 6'6" and weighed 300+ lbs.  He has college degree and everything.  Very athletic.  Ran a 5.1 40 yard in full pads (football).  If you are a cop in Southern Cal and especially a CHP you know my brother.  he is was based in South Central and for the past 10 years or so he is down in Temecula.  He is known as Robocop and Dinosaur.  He makes alot of money.  He is a workaholic.  Overtime and court as much as possible.  He takes his vacations every year where he travels to a different country and play golf.  He has played on courses all over the world.  Now at a relatively young age he will be retired and be able to play everyday now.  His wife is an RN.  Back 96' he was making well over $100,000.  Any cop on here or CHP can easily verify what I say.  If you talk to him tell it is nice he stays in contact.

Jeez....South Central?  Yikes.  And there are always a ton of cops married to RN's, EMT's etc...I guess because they understand each others work schedules and job stresses better...

[noworries]

Jeez....South Central?  Yikes.  And there are always a ton of cops married to RN's, EMT's etc...I guess because they understand each others work schedules and job stresses better...

I guess he met her when he had to go to the hospital once.  He has been shot a couple times from what I understand.  Nothing serious.  One guy drove him off the side of the 405 down the embankment I heard.  At his wedding the cops were telling me all kinds of stories about him.  He won some award in 96' or so and got to meet the President.  My attorney actually said he saw him on the news and that i how I found out.  We don't really talk anymore.  He is a mister goody two shoes and I guess I am too loud for him.  But, I am kind of proud he is my brother.  He just set the bar to high for me growing up.  Luckily I had my own goals

[The Showstoppa]

I guess he met her when he had to go to the hospital once.  He has been shot a couple times from what I understand.  Nothing serious.  One guy drove him off the side of the 405 down the embankment I heard.  At his wedding the cops were telling me all kinds of stories about him.  He won some award in 96' or so and got to meet the President.  My attorney actually said he saw him on the news and that i how I found out.  We don't really talk anymore.  He is a mister goody two shoes and I guess I am too loud for him.  But, I am kind of proud he is my brother.  He just set the bar to high for me growing up.  Luckily I had my own goals

We don't choose family...... I've been around so many people where when one brother is like that, a younger one usually rebels against it.  I'm sure its a pain in the ass growing up with an "all american" boy older brother....luckily, both of mine were pretty rowdy, so I always came across as pretty low key in comparison.

[Agnostic007]

These days some communities are coming to the conclusion that if you want professional cops, you have to pay professional wages to get the best candidates. When I started in 93 I made $11 an hour in the Academy. I think it bumped up to $13 an hour after the academy. Honestly, back then I would have done it for less. I used to look forward to coming to work and would get disappointed when my days off came around. We have worked 4 10hr shifts with 3 days off a week since I came on. Over the years we have increased our minimum requirements for college, and culled through a lot of questionable applicants to find the 40 or so that start the academy. We can afford to be picky because here in Texas a 2 yr cop can close in on 100K with overtime with a 23 yr retirement at a 3.2 multiplier. I have a Detective buddy who won't promote to Sergeant because the overtime is so lucrative at his level he will make about $170 this year. But with this pay comes higher expectations and standards and very little is tolerated.     

[noworries]

We don't choose family...... I've been around so many people where when one brother is like that, a younger one usually rebels against it.  I'm sure its a pain in the ass growing up with an "all american" boy older brother....luckily, both of mine were pretty rowdy, so I always came across as pretty low key in comparison.

You don't how true that statement is.  I was adopted by them when I was 3 days old.  He is huge with blond hair and blue eyes.  he looks about as similar to me as Goodrum and a bodybuilder.  I mean I probably couldn't have asked for a better family financially or morally but it ends there.  I had a million friends growing up but only 2 or 3 my parents liked enough to have come over.  A thing between my friends was if you got to go up to our cabin (in Running Springs, CA) then you were liked by my mom and you were "in".  Only 2 friends were ever allowed to come up with us.  It is probably why I rebelled so much and did some of the shit I did.  Oh well, I turned out awesome in the long run

Shit one more thing.  My brother became an Eagle scout back in the mid 70's when being an Eagle Scout meant something and was harder than it is today.  He got his picture taken in full color and had a full size "truck ad" (the largest area of a newspaper when unfolded) in the LA Times.  To this day no one has even had that.  And he got to meet Nixon too.  He was a Junior or Senior in High School at the time.  Hell he wanted to go to the Air Force Academy and they flew us out there to see the place.  he had LOR's from the most important people around.  It was a shoe-in.  Then when he hit 6'6" tall he couldn't go.  So he ended up taking a full ride to Humbolt State instead.

[The Showstoppa]

You don't how true that statement is.  I was adopted by them when I was 3 days old.  He is huge with blond hair and blue eyes.  he looks about as similar to me as Goodrum and a bodybuilder.  I mean I probably couldn't have asked for a better family financially or morally but it ends there.  I had a million friends growing up but only 2 or 3 my parents liked enough to have come over.  A thing between my friends was if you got to go up to our cabin (in Running Springs, CA) then you were liked by my mom and you were "in".  Only 2 friends were ever allowed to come up with us.  It is probably why I rebelled so much and did some of the shit I did.  Oh well, I turned out awesome in the long run

haha, and humble too! 

[pellius]

The cops in Hawaii are the biggest I have ever seen.  There are some little ones but they gotta have the most big cops of any force in the US.  And most of the prison guards are huge too.  I remember after the OJ trial and they were anticipating trouble in Waikiki.  I went down there and they had to have had every 300 lb person in Hawaii wearing a uniform working Waikiki that day.  No way in the world was anyone going to start trouble. 

There are a lot of huge cops here but not across the board. Affirmative action insures that you have to take a lot of women and Asians. But prison guards are a whole different story. A bunch of prison guards were hanging out in front of the gym after their workout and as I was going in I asked if one of the requirements to be a prison guard is that you have to be 300lbs and bench at least 405lbs. One said, "Nah, you can be 275 lb as long as you can still bench at least 405."

Every prison guard I have met or seen had to be hovering near 300 lbs. Of course they are not ripped but they are not fat slobs. Just huge mofos. (This doesn't apply to the guards in the county jail. You don't get the hard core felons that you get at the State prison in Halawa.)