I agree about Dorian training hard and smart, but no one has really brought up Ronnie. The tremendous improvements he made in the late 90's (legs just grew and grew and his back just got thicker and thicker) is indicative of the level of intensity he trained with. Would you say Dorian and Ronnie had superior genetics to say Flex or Paul Dillet.....I would say no, but they busted their ass in the gym day in and day out training super heavy and smart, (although Ronnie pulling an 800lb deadlift close to the Olympia is insanity) and that is why they have well over a decades worth of Olympia titles between them. I respect the hell out of what they put into their training and it paid off. Look at Branch, I don't particularly care for his physique but his success in the sport is 100% due to hard work and I can respect that. Imagine if someone with Vic Martinez's genetics trained with that level of intensity day in and day out. I know Vic has battled injuries (which by the way were not sustained due to training super heavy like Levrone and other guys) and personal issues, but I think he will ultimately end up leaving a legacy like Flex did.....which is could of, would of , should of.....