Jan Brewer - Governor of AZ - KICKS ASS

[dario73]

American citizens are supposed to carry proof of citizenship with them?  Since when?

American citizens have been wrongly detained and deported before.  I've posted multiple links about this already.

People who are provided with working visas/green cards, etc HAVE TO CARRY those documents with them.

This is what the law says:
Section 264 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) states, "Every alien in the United States . . . shall be issued a certificate of alien registration or an alien registration receipt card in such form and manner and at such time as shall be prescribed under regulations . . ." It also says, "Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him . . .. Any alien who fails to comply with [these provisions] shall be guilty of a misdemeanor..." The specific requirements and procedures for applying to renew an expiring green card are contained in the Code of Federal Regulations [CFR] at 8 CFR section 264.5.


http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=d0a33a4107083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=d0a33a4107083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD


Now, it would be great if everyone was required to carry a NATIONAL ID. One that is imposible to duplicate. An ID that anyone should have to provide whenever it is asked of them for ANY REASON. Of course if they don't have one or they lost it, OUR WORLD LEADING TECHNOLOGY can provide the answer if the person is legal or not.  

[loco]

Hermano, es una invasion. El porcentaje de Hispanos traidos aqui por compañias que en forma ilicita obtienen imigrantes para trabajar es inifinitamente mas pequeño comparado con los que entran ilegalmente simplemente por necesidad, sin ser atraidos con promesas de trabajo.

It is an invasion. The percentage of those Hispanics actively sought by companies has to be infinitely small to those who come here simply because of their need, without any guarantee of employment.

Come on, most of them come here because of economic need. It's understandable but it is not right, nor legal.

Muy bien, call it an invasion.  But that would mean that you have American companies and the US government aiding the "enemy" in this invasion.

[loco]

People who are provided with working visas/green cards, etc HAVE TO CARRY those documents with them.

This is what the law says:
Section 264 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) states, "Every alien in the United States . . . shall be issued a certificate of alien registration or an alien registration receipt card in such form and manner and at such time as shall be prescribed under regulations . . ." It also says, "Every alien, eighteen years of age and over, shall at all times carry with him and have in his personal possession any certificate of alien registration or alien registration receipt card issued to him . . .. Any alien who fails to comply with [these provisions] shall be guilty of a misdemeanor..." The specific requirements and procedures for applying to renew an expiring green card are contained in the Code of Federal Regulations [CFR] at 8 CFR section 264.5.


http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=d0a33a4107083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=d0a33a4107083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCRD


Now, it would be great if everyone was required to carry a NATIONAL ID. One that is imposible to duplicate. An ID that anyone should have to provide whenever it is asked of them for ANY REASON. Of course if they don't have one or they lost it, OUR WORLD LEADING TECHNOLOGY can provide the answer if the person is legal or not.  

Yes, I know legal permanent residents are required by law to carry their green card with them at all times.

I was talking about Hispanic American citizens.  They are not required by law to carry proof of American citizenship.

I agree that requiring everyone to carry a National Id at all times would be fair, but I thought most Americans opposed this idea and called it un-American.

[George Whorewell]

Loco that argument doesn't fly.

Law enforcement has to FIRST suspect you are breaking the law AND THEN, if the required reasonable suspiscion is met that the individual suspected of a crime is in the country illegally, the cops can inquire into that individuals status.  So, if the person stopped speaks english, has a valid photo id or some other form of identification that would tend to demonstrate they are here legally, the inquiry stops dead in it's tracks. There would be no reason to suspect that the person questioned by police (suspected of breaking the law) is in the country illegally.

The cops can only push further for an individuals status ONLY if they are given reason to believe (if they already suspect that individual is breaking the law). AND THE REASON CANT BE BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUAL SUSPECTED OF BREAKING THE LAW IS MEXICAN. 

There is no need for national ID cards, or any of this other nonsense. It's a common sense law being used to combat a common sense problem. Don't commit any crimes, don't enter the country illegally, and if you are stopped by police don't show them phony documents and answer their questions dishonestly. Problem solved forever.

[dario73]

Muy bien, call it an invasion.  But that would mean that you have American companies and the US government aiding the "enemy" in this invasion.

I don't want to go in circles with youon this topic. We agree that there are companies that do that because the only thing they care about is their bottom line. No one here is condoning them and they should be penalized for it and heavily. But, that still lives a majority of illegals who come here without any aid from corporate america. How do we stop them? Secure the border and either setup a pathway to citizenship to those already inside or force them out.

This problem is not going to be solved solely by penalizing American companies. If you believe that, you are wrong.

[tarzan]

Hello Jackass

When whites arrive in america (called Asera by the Native People) they were ignorant, uneducated, knowing nothing in the form of farming, agriculture, home building, hygiene, medicine etc etc. The Native People educated and treated whites of all of their sicknesses, diseases, taught them farming, agriculture, how to live, bathe, dress etc. They Native People had strong religious beliefs, knew of GOD (which whites did NOT and still don't) treated human life with respect only to have none returned. Your fantasy of some white conquering is all a LIE... What killed the majority of Native People was WHITE FILTH AND DISEASE. Small Pox, Chicken Pox, Influenza, Rabies, Syphilis, Gonorrhea, Measles, Mumps, ticks, fleas, rats, mice, cockroaches etc etc were unknown to the Native People. These things were brought to Asera by whites and it devastated the Native Population in the MILLIONS. The same was done to the Mexicans and South Americans...

Upon whites entry into North America they played the humble roll (they did not come as any supposed warriors or conquerors)...pretending to be peaceful and when they saw the wealth the Native People had, just like today in Afghanistan and Iraq, the greedy savage took hold. They found out that the diseases of which  they had immunity to from centuries of exposure killed the Native People who never had exposure. With that knowledge the white savage made it their business to bring over blankets they knew were infested with small pox, chicken pox etc etc and gave them to the Native People as supposed gifts (today it is called biological warfare) following this technique was the bringing over of who were called Buffalo Soldiers...men from the Caribbean. Whites COULD NOT defeat the Native People despite the diseases. So these Caribbean men fought against the Native People all for the sake of wine and promises of wealth...of course they got neither wine nor wealth afterward, but rather the end of a gun pointed at their head and were carted off to plantations once they had performed the ill duty of killing many Native People.

I see your schools have done an excellent job of MIS-EDUCATING you...Then again if you know you are nothing you must fabricate tales to make yourselves appear far greater than you are....

OMG TAMPON! That is hilarious. Do you really believe that?? Did the Native Americans also invent a train for them, electricity, cars??

Europeans had been farming for centuries before they came to America. Nobody taught them farming.

Holy shit are you for real?

What??

I am still recovering from the shock of your retardation. I think the world's leading anthropologists can stop looking for the "missing link" - it is right here on Getbig!

[loco]

I don't want to go in circles with youon this topic. We agree that there are companies that do that because the only thing they care about is their bottom line. No one here is condoning them and they should be penalized for it and heavily. But, that still lives a majority of illegals who come here without any aid from corporate america. How do we stop them? Secure the border and either setup a pathway to citizenship to those already inside or force them out.

This problem is not going to be solved solely by penalizing American companies. If you believe that, you are wrong.

How do you stop them?  What brings them to the US, and can you take that away so that they'll leave on their own and never come back?

[George Whorewell]

The death penalty for illegal immigration.

If that doesn't work, make it a Felony and deny the children of illegals the right to become citizens and deny access to basic services such as schooling, hospitals and the like.

If that doesn't work, round them up and kick them out.

It's really not that hard to put an end to this problem. The real issue is that the politicians in this country are too cowardly to do what needs to be done and there are too many sissy liberals in positions of power.

[tarzan]

The death penalty for illegal immigration.

If that doesn't work, make it a Felony and deny the children of illegals the right to become citizens and deny access to basic services such as schooling, hospitals and the like.

If that doesn't work, round them up and kick them out.

It's really not that hard to put an end to this problem. The real issue is that the politicians in this country are too cowardly to do what needs to be done and there are too many sissy liberals in positions of power.

It would be nice if the politicians were also removed from power. As Celente says they were the overachiever kids in high school that you couldn't stand.

[Soul Crusher]

I like celente.  He is spot on with most things, especially the bankers and obama. 

[sixsixinthemix]

I say build a train to mexico and daily put illegals n, and revoke biz of any who hire

then charge mexico 300,000 a pop

[doison]

Not one of the things you mentioned prove American citizenship.

Are you fucking with me?  I'm pretty sure you are, but just in case you really didn't get it.....

You have to show "papers" for anything you do.  You can't even "alter" your own yard without having papers proving it is "okay" with the city. I don't see anyone bitching about having to show papers for any other reason. 

I just don't see the HUGE fuss about possibly being asked to prove your citizenship when you get pulled over for a traffic violation. 
You already have to show three separate "papers."....license, registration, proof of insurance. 

Why are you so against "proof of citizenship" being added to that list? 



If you're so upset about the AZ law, then I should be able to assume you're equally against having to show other form of "paper" when you commit a crime, right?