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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #25 on: August 07, 2010, 07:50:43 PM »
mental age of 5, Howard is a retard and a schmoe

with idiots like Howard judging events, no wonder people like branch are taking 2nd at the Olympias.
and its hysterical how he boasts about being a "A level" BB judge, as if it were a respectable profession. Epic backfired thread LOL
 " I was a former AAU national judge and judged the AAU Mr America and am currently an " A level NPC judge" with many years experience"

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #26 on: August 07, 2010, 07:51:42 PM »
Seems like old man Howard is jealous of the attention and popularity GH15 gets on the boards ::)

Howard tried steroids but only sissy doses and he is resentful that he couldnt man up and take the higher doses required to actually look like a bodybuilder and compete

As others have said bodybuilder is all drugs and response to drugs

I've heard he doesn't respond to hormones. Or that all he ever used was bunk shit believing it was real.

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2010, 07:53:58 PM »

with idiots like Howard judging events, no wonder people like branch are taking 2nd at the Olympias.
and its hysterical how he boasts about being a "A level" BB judge, as if it were a respectable profession. Epic backfired thread LOL
 " I was a former AAU national judge and judged the AAU Mr America and am currently an " A level NPC judge" with many years experience"
Branch looked great last Olympia and desrved 2nd.
I judge because I love BB and enjoy being an official part of it.
I teach physics for a living.

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2010, 07:54:55 PM »
Branch looked great last Olympia and desrved 2nd.
I judge because I love BB and enjoy being an official part of it.
I teach physics for a living.

do you teach special ed kids?

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #29 on: August 07, 2010, 07:55:44 PM »
It is obvious my thoughts and ideas would fall on deaf ears by many who replied here.
I suspected as much when I wrote the post.
I find it interesting to read some of your posts on this.
It amazes me how some cling so strongly to their beliefs on this , almost like it is some religion? hmmmm.
Ya know , I am going to pro contests regardless of drug use. If they juice, fine, if they tested I would be even more happy.
No biggy, live and let live.
I just hope I can finally stay on a decent diet and get some abs showing  in a few months.

The Olympics have been tested for decades and its pretty well known that many(MANY) use PED's. So whats your point?

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2010, 07:57:15 PM »

Ya know , I am going to pro contests regardless of drug use. If they juice, fine, if they tested I would be even more happy.


why do you go to pro shows for?  are you some sort of homo or something?...seriously, shouldn't a grown ass man be trying to have sex with girls or something

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2010, 07:57:29 PM »
ANyone who claims that bodybuilding success is mostly about drugs and your genetic response to them is an IDIOT.
That is as silly as saying that drugs don't work at all or make any difference in the size of a bodybuilder.

Obviously drugs enhance any physique and make a difference . BUT to me , diet discipline , muscle shape, separation , training intensity, avoiding injury, peaking , etc are all key factors . To act like drugs is the vast majority of success is ignornant and stupid.



You have blasphemed.

May the god of hormones have mercy on your soul.

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2010, 07:59:55 PM »
It is obvious my thoughts and ideas would fall on deaf ears by many who replied here.
I suspected as much when I wrote the post.
I find it interesting to read some of your posts on this.
It amazes me how some cling so strongly to their beliefs on this , almost like it is some religion? hmmmm.
Ya know , I am going to pro contests regardless of drug use. If they juice, fine, if they tested I would be even more happy.
No biggy, live and let live.
I just hope I can finally stay on a decent diet and get some abs showing  in a few months.

When Lance Armstrong finally comes out and admits his use of PED's but tells everyone that he only took them because he lost a testicle and his body wasn't producing the same amount of testosterone as him fellow riders. Will you also believe that PED's had nothing to do with his wins?

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #33 on: August 07, 2010, 08:03:08 PM »
LOL, for a guy that doesn't look like a bodybuilder , I did ok in actual contests.
I never too much and still beat guys that did.
Never won a national show or turned pro but I did palce 3rd at the AAU Jr America and won the only drug tested NPC show ever held in Lousiana (94 Ironman naturally
How do you know what those other guys were doing?

And the "only" tested NPC show , right there it screams you are a liar..your motivation for this thread comes across in that statement..you did lots of drugs but still were only good enough to look like a "natural" which of course we all know in bodybuilding there is no such thing , now fuck off you deluded all cu nt you are tiresome  ::)

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #34 on: August 07, 2010, 08:06:29 PM »
So Howard answer this..the only drug tested mr olympia in 1990..do you beleive they were all natural ?

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2010, 08:06:56 PM »
How do you know what those other guys were doing?

And the "only" tested NPC show , right there it screams you are a liar..your motivation for this thread comes across in that statement..you did lots of drugs but still were only good enough to look like a "natural" which of course we all know in bodybuilding there is no such thing , now fuck off you deluded all cu nt you are tiresome  ::)
The only drug tested (nattural) NPC ever held in the state of the Lousiana was the August 1994 Ironman naturally held at Baton Rouge Centrplex.
I got 1st and even did a 2 min spot on WWL  news later that week.

I don't know what most of the guys in NON tested shows took. I do know what some told me they took however.

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2010, 08:08:28 PM »
ANyone who claims that bodybuilding success is mostly about drugs and your genetic response to them is an IDIOT.
That is as silly as saying that drugs don't work at all or make any difference in the size of a bodybuilder.

Obviously drugs enhance any physique and make a difference . BUT to me , diet discipline , muscle shape, separation , training intensity, avoiding injury, peaking , etc are all key factors . To act like drugs is the vast majority of success is ignornant and stupid.


its all drugs...and genetics....nothing else.....working out, and diet is just the finishing touch...

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #37 on: August 07, 2010, 08:13:51 PM »
If they were NOT disqualified they were clean anough to pass whatever drug test they gave.
It doesn't matter what I think in this case , only what the facts are.
The IFBB has avoided dealing with the drug issue for a loooooong time .
They were all using  ;) ,you using if they didnt get caught than they were clean enough to be clean is a crazy close your eyes and it didnt happen cos i missed it logic...they were not natural end of story..

Using the logic you just applyed there means you also must beleive the Olympic games is all natural to..

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #38 on: August 07, 2010, 08:14:27 PM »
I never have said that drugs are NOT a part of modern sport. I simply said that GH15 was wacky to think it was ALL DRUGS. Saying it is "all drugs" is as reatrded as saying drugs don't work or help. Hmmm, who is the one here being reasonable and logical?

If a human being can't compete at the Olympia level without using drugs, then it is all about the drugs.. Its has now become and unspoken rule that a person must use drugs and a lot of them to compete at that level. Its niave at best to think other wise.

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #39 on: August 07, 2010, 08:15:27 PM »
If they were NOT disqualified they were clean anough to pass whatever drug test they gave.
It doesn't matter what I think in this case , only what the facts are.
The IFBB has avoided dealing with the drug issue for a loooooong time .
hahahaha so naive...

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2010, 08:16:04 PM »
The only drug tested (nattural) NPC ever held in the state of the Lousiana was the August 1994 Ironman naturally held at Baton Rouge Centrplex.
I got 1st and even did a 2 min spot on WWL  news later that week.

I don't know what most of the guys in NON tested shows took. I do know what some told me they took however.

What did you do a polygraph?

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #41 on: August 07, 2010, 08:34:01 PM »
Think for one minute ok. Think about some other performing activity like singing for example.
If you don't have the natural talent all the vocal coaches, drugs or whatever won't make you sound good live on stage.
In sports like sprinting or bodybuilding, drugs do ENHANCE your performance , no question.
BUT, the reality is ,you can't replace a lack of talent with drugs.
That is the cold hard fact and reality.

 I went to bed with tears in my eyes when I knew I lacked the talent to be a top pro MANY years ago. It hurt to finally realize that I just didn't have what it took to be a top bodybuilder. It hurts to lose a dream, but I learned to accept it and enjoy bodybuilding as a fun lifestyle. I  am quite greatful I had the sense to get an education and stable career. That is why I admire and respect pros in all sports so much. I tried  hard and couldn't do it.  Unlike some , I am not jealous or bitter as I gave it my best shot and busted my ass trying.
What some choose to BELIEVE is the drug myth. If they keep searching for the magic motion , they can unlock the secret to bodybuilding success. Of course the drug guru has this secret knowldge and will let you in...for a price ;)
I have seen many like this in bodybuilding over the years. Most end up frustrated and bitter , still convinced they never found the true holy grail of bodybuilding drugs. I may be a retarded old fart, but I do KNOW the truth on what drugs can/can't do.The supplement companies do a similar thing, but that is another story.
BB is a wonderful lifestyle and  healthy if you don't go too crazy hehe.
bro, i played the BB/NPC game for a while.....its all drugs and genetics......i have been there, lived it, and seen it....

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #42 on: August 07, 2010, 08:42:22 PM »
Then you already know that if you lack the genetic talent , training habbits and diet discipline to win, all the drugs in the world won't make it happen. THAT is my point! The GH15 types want everyone to think you need the right magic potion.
This way the real secret is the magic drugs, NOT the other stuff.
i didnt lack it...not saying i would have went pro either....but it was sad....if you have the genetics....and a great supplier...and no life, or ambitions.....pro life is for you...

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #43 on: August 07, 2010, 08:43:19 PM »
not to further shit on aaron singerman, i understand this was a difficult day for him in light of all the expectations people were carrying for him


but here is why the most important thing in bodybuilding is your response to drugs:


he is a guy who lives the bodybuilding lifestyle EVERY hour of EVERYDAY................ trains like  a bodybuilder, eats like a bodybuilders, sleeps like a bodybuilder

has access to some of the top prep minds in the industry, as his personal friends................. and no doubt has acess to some of the best sources in the industry



and with all that behind him.................THIS  IS WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE ON STAGE TODAY:


AARON IS ON RIGHT
 





WHY?  cause he has bad bodybuilding genetics and shitty response to hormones...........its nothing he did wrong.........he trained hard, he juiced correctly..............h e diet probably could have been a little more polished, but all in all he did what he was supposed to


he blew up to a doughy 280 in the offseason, and when all was said and done, with all the great gear he has access to , and all the minds he has access to..............when he dieted down, he ended up being a stickly 6'2 215-220......................nothing he did wrong, he  just doesnt have a great response to hormones

he was confusing fat for muscle, and when he went into a caloric deficit, most of his muscle disappeared...........
 


there are some guys, who with a couple of dbol can get leaner and carry more muscle then this............and THIS is an example of why GENETIC RESPONSE to HORMONES is SO IMPORTANT

(im not trying to shit on aaron, i dont have super-response either, he should be proud of himslef, he knows he will never be a IFBB pro..........he was just doign this to drum up attention for his radio show anyway, and it worked)

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #44 on: August 07, 2010, 08:47:09 PM »
Then you already know that if you lack the genetic talent , training habbits and diet discipline to win, all the drugs in the world won't make it happen. THAT is my point! The GH15 types want everyone to think you need the right magic potion.
This way the real secret is the magic drugs, NOT the other stuff.
You have misread what he says..

At the top level it is all genetics and drugs , remove the drugs and genetics alone wont cut it.

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2010, 08:53:59 PM »
You have misread what he says..

At the top level it is all genetics and drugs , remove the drugs and genetics alone wont cut it.
I don't agree with that. If drugs were taken out of IFBB pro BB, 90% of the same guys would still be top pros.
The drugs enhance everyone and since they all are great talents they all get enhanced. In the end the guy with the best overall genetics, drive and contest prep wins.

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2010, 08:55:20 PM »
I don't agree with that. If drugs were taken out of IFBB pro BB, 90% of the same guys would still be top pros.
The drugs enhance everyone and since they all are great talents they all get enhanced. In the end the guy with the best overall genetics, drive and contest prep wins.
so ronnie coleman would have won all those contest without drugs?

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2010, 08:55:35 PM »
not to further shit on aaron singerman, i understand this was a difficult day for him in light of all the expectations people were carrying for him


but here is why the most important thing in bodybuilding is your response to drugs:


he is a guy who lives the bodybuilding lifestyle EVERY hour of EVERYDAY................ trains like  a bodybuilder, eats like a bodybuilders, sleeps like a bodybuilder

has access to some of the top prep minds in the industry, as his personal friends................. and no doubt has acess to some of the best sources in the industry



and with all that behind him.................THIS  IS WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE ON STAGE TODAY:


AARON IS ON RIGHT
 





WHY?  cause he has bad bodybuilding genetics and shitty response to hormones...........its nothing he did wrong.........he trained hard, he juiced correctly..............h e diet probably could have been a little more polished, but all in all he did what he was supposed to


he blew up to a doughy 280 in the offseason, and when all was said and done, with all the great gear he has access to , and all the minds he has access to..............when he dieted down, he ended up being a stickly 6'2 215-220......................nothing he did wrong, he  just doesnt have a great response to hormones

he was confusing fat for muscle, and when he went into a caloric deficit, most of his muscle disappeared...........
 


there are some guys, who with a couple of dbol can get leaner and carry more muscle then this............and THIS is an example of why GENETIC RESPONSE to HORMONES is SO IMPORTANT

(im not trying to shit on aaron, i dont have super-response either, he should be proud of himslef, he knows he will never be a IFBB pro..........he was just doign this to drum up attention for his radio show anyway, and it worked)

Good post. And no doubt he looked very good in the gym around regular human beings who binge drink 2 to 3 times a week. These same people were no doubt probably blowing his ego sky high. Lets just hope that he steps back and doesn't pull a Mike A. and keep upping the dose. Aaron should just stay lean and get healthy.

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2010, 09:09:41 PM »
No question! If NOBODY in the Olympia juiced Ronnie would still have won and looked damn impressive albeit lighter and not as freaky.
His 286 ripped was unreal!
but you said its not about drugs....if ronnie has the uber genetics it wouldnt matter if anyone else was on anything...

also...from what your saying...ronnie would also be 286lbs, ripped as ever, without drugs...

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Re: Why GH15 is full of doggy doo!
« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2010, 09:36:14 PM »
but you said its not about drugs....if ronnie has the uber genetics it wouldnt matter if anyone else was on anything...

also...from what your saying...ronnie would also be 286lbs, ripped as ever, without drugs...

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I'l make my reply brief and simple.
If everyone juices ( buisiness as usual) Ronnie blows them away at an unreal 286 and ripped.
If nobody juices , Ronnie still wins (in his prime) around 223-6 lbs