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Re: Why GH15 is full of it / is he Disgusted?
« Reply #200 on: August 09, 2010, 07:32:49 PM »
To me what is kinda sad is here we have an actual former Mr Canada with decades of diet and training wisdom (YOU Vince!) .
Yet, these numbnuts would rather  listen to some internet guru who doesn't have a real ID.
I know you don't agree with Bob Chick, but he was a Mr USA and IFBB pro. Yup, the even give him shit and rarely listen to his advice and answers.
I am not a great BB , but am an experienced NPC judge and even judged the Mr America. In all modesty I have a pretty good knowldge base some of these young guys could learn from.
I know you first gained your knowledge  from the older lifters in the gym ,hands on, as did I. Nobody paid for a contest guru or trainer when I first competed . You got the advice of the best , experienced BB in your gym and you LISTENED. In Arnold's book " Education of a BB" he explains how he picked the older lifters brains and they took him under their wing.
It was trial and error in the gym and a lot of hard work. Sure, some guys took drugs but it was used to SUPPLEMENT the hard work and good diet.
Oh, well some guys never learn.

A lot has change since basile's glory days. Today his mr canada build wouldn't win a teen show.

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Re: Why GH15 is full of it / is he Disgusted?
« Reply #201 on: August 09, 2010, 07:40:39 PM »
A lot has change since basile's glory days. Today his mr canada build wouldn't win a teen show.
I am sure all you "experts" will go on to great glory and bigger titles than Vince Basille in your prime.
Most of you clowns won't even compete and yet claim to be BETTER than a former  national champ of Canada.
Good luck and keep us posted after your first contest win. Better yet, stay in touch after you and your pals all go pro and place top 5 in the Olympia. I don't know you or your BB background. BUT I suspect you never won jackshit in actual BB. If I am wrong about that I apologize in advance. It strikes me as pretty dumb for so many here at get big to brag when they never did shit. I would wish you good luck, but since you already know everything I don't need to.

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Re: Why GH15 is full of it / is he Disgusted?
« Reply #202 on: August 09, 2010, 07:44:08 PM »
I am sure all you "experts" will go on to great glory and bigger titles than Vince Basille in your prime.
Most of you clowns won't even compete and yet claim to be BETTER than a former  national champ of Canada.
Good luck and keep us posted after your first contest win. Better yet, stay in touch after you and your pals all go pro and place top 5 in the Olympia. I don't know you or your BB background. BUT I suspect you never won jackshit in actual BB. If I am wrong about that I apologize in advance. It strikes me as pretty dumb for so many here at get big to brag when they never did shit. I would wish you good luck, but since you already know everything I don't need to.
Uh, that former national champ is a very bitter has been that has turned his back on that industry and his country.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Why GH15 is full of it / is he Disgusted?
« Reply #203 on: August 09, 2010, 07:47:25 PM »
Uh, that former national champ is a very bitter has been that has turned his back on that industry and his country.
Look on a forum any fan or lifter can post as they wish obviously. But seriously don't any of you think it silly to have some Mr Nobody/Never will be cracking on a guy that won an actual MR Canada. Some of you guys remind me of this;
" I never did compete in an actual bodybuilding contest. But I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night"

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Re: Why GH15 is full of it / is he Disgusted?
« Reply #204 on: August 09, 2010, 07:47:59 PM »
I am sure all you "experts" will go on to great glory and bigger titles than Vince Basille in your prime.
Most of you clowns won't even compete and yet claim to be BETTER than a former  national champ of Canada.
Good luck and keep us posted after your first contest win. Better yet, stay in touch after you and your pals all go pro and place top 5 in the Olympia. I don't know you or your BB background. BUT I suspect you never won jackshit in actual BB. If I am wrong about that I apologize in advance. It strikes me as pretty dumb for so many here at get big to brag when they never did shit. I would wish you good luck, but since you already know everything I don't need to.


Howard, may I ask you a personal question?

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Re: Why GH15 is full of it / is he Disgusted?
« Reply #205 on: August 09, 2010, 07:50:13 PM »
Look on a forum any fan or lifter can post as they wish obviously. But seriously don't any of you think it silly to have some Mr Nobody/Never will be cracking on a guy that won an actual MR Canada. Some of you guys remind me of this;
" I never did compete in an actual bodybuilding contest. But I did stay in a Holiday Inn last night"
Um, no it's not silly at all, if he was as good as he thinks he is, he would be training some high caliber athletes or bbers right now, instead he's hiding out in Australia, going to funerals of people he never knew, and painting machines pink.
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: Why GH15 is full of it / is he Disgusted?
« Reply #206 on: August 09, 2010, 07:51:02 PM »

Howard, may I ask you a personal question?
No I am not queer and no I don't want you to toos my salad.
Sure ask away, seriously

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Re: Why GH15 is full of it / is he Disgusted?
« Reply #207 on: August 09, 2010, 07:52:05 PM »
No I am not queer and no I don't want you to toos my salad.
Sure ask away, seriously

OK it's kinda personal so feel free not to answer. Are you on any type of anti-depressants?

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Re: Why GH15 is full of it / is he Disgusted?
« Reply #208 on: August 09, 2010, 07:54:22 PM »
I am sure all you "experts" will go on to great glory and bigger titles than Vince Basille in your prime.
Most of you clowns won't even compete and yet claim to be BETTER than a former  national champ of Canada.
Good luck and keep us posted after your first contest win. Better yet, stay in touch after you and your pals all go pro and place top 5 in the Olympia. I don't know you or your BB background. BUT I suspect you never won jackshit in actual BB. If I am wrong about that I apologize in advance. It strikes me as pretty dumb for so many here at get big to brag when they never did shit. I would wish you good luck, but since you already know everything I don't need to.

No ones claiming to be better than anyone else. Vince is DELUSIONAL to claim you could be a natural pro.

Thats the stupidest fucking thing I've heard all day.

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« Reply #209 on: August 09, 2010, 07:57:15 PM »
Howard, I had to do all my thinking myself. I grew up in Kamloops and there were no gyms in 1959. In Vancouver I went to UBC and started a Fig Club so we could use the weight room. There were no big bodybuilders there, either. I had to study nutrition and figure out how much protein to eat and so on. The one thing I never resolved was the number of sets. I ended up doing about 8 sets which is close but not enough. If I had done 8 maximum sets I would have grown a lot bigger. We really will never know what is possible naturally because most muscleheads opt for the drugs. This is lunacy but what can we say. I don't blame them because the drugs might save them a lot of time. A pity, though, that this has happened to our sport and maybe ruined it forever.

I have a theory of hypertrophy which is much more than the flotsam possess. Very rare to find a thinker who lifts weights.

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Re: Why GH15 is full of it / is he Disgusted?
« Reply #210 on: August 09, 2010, 08:02:12 PM »
Howard, I had to do all my thinking myself. I grew up in Kamloops and there were no gyms in 1959. In Vancouver I went to UBC and started a Fig Club so we could use the weight room. There were no big bodybuilders there, either. I had to study nutrition and figure out how much protein to eat and so on. The one thing I never resolved was the number of sets. I ended up doing about 8 sets which is close but not enough. If I had done 8 maximum sets I would have grown a lot bigger. We really will never know what is possible naturally because most muscleheads opt for the drugs. This is lunacy but what can we say. I don't blame them because the drugs might save them a lot of time. A pity, though, that this has happened to our sport and maybe ruined it forever.

I have a theory of hypertrophy which is much more than the flotsam possess. Very rare to find a thinker who lifts weights.

I would like to hear more of this thoery myself Vince. Thanks in advance

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Re: Why GH15 is full of it / is he Disgusted?
« Reply #211 on: August 09, 2010, 08:20:30 PM »
friends,,this is important that you understand what gh15 is writing here,,first of im not disgusted,,he has a lot of knowledge and say the truth but im not him,,second i repededly say here that the absolut highest authority on your board when it comes to hormones is van b ,,there is a reason i back up van b ,,he is the closest to the real deal when it comes to what a professional actually do and also describe in good language the importance of hormones in sports in particular bodybuilding,,

disgusted does say it like it is and tell you the truth from the posting i read in this thread,,van b though show consitancy in giving you the right knowledge closest you will ever find to what the reality is,,that is why getny hate him so much ,,thats why many discredit him because he is saying the truth and thats why i put him as my lutenent in the bible,,

now,,we all know when it comes to bodybuilding the board of body of science is the final authority about drugs and where everyone in the know is ,,i consider william and ronny t as good embasador of true bodybuilding,,,

as i said before ,,the drug market is huge,,we have now days drugs like mdrol hdrol that are real drugs that stayed in the dark because the grey zone of othe fda,,a loop,,they are very very strong drugs,,so they are used by kids who order them with out even needing a dealer ,,they go to block buster and just get it like you get movie ,,you get your drugs online together with the movie and pizza you oroder,,


tbomb said gh15 said to be lazy abotu training,,NO gh15 didnt say to be laxy ,,gh15 said that the drugs are the most important factor in the bodybuilder physiqe,,training come third after nutrition,,ofcourese you need to train and be consistant with both training  and drugs because if you dont train you wont develop to the  most potential ,,the muscle need resistance stimulation in the form of training,,so thats that

to finish this i will add one more thing,,you as a bodybuilder can stop working chest with free barbel,,you can use hammer incline ,,and still grow the chest to be top of the top,,it is all in the drugs respond  and the dosaes in addition to resistance training in any form,,lifters still do not get this concept,,you can have huge legs with out squating even once! you can have amazing arms if you got good response to the hormones and genetically good arms even if you work with machines only ...infact you will isolate the muscle much better,,

there is aura the older generation did around bodybuilding which is wrong and misleading and misguided,,take a good look at thomas prince,,this is a very very good example of how much drugs a major 90% factor of a bodybuilder,,

no test = no bodybuilder ...learn it ,,

i told you before the older generation claimed to only use 2 dianabol and little deca while in reality they pumped themselves with 1 gramn testosterona,,thats where the lie was,,the natural generation now which ofcourse is not  natural ...keep saying it is but behind your backl buy superdrols from companies who sit online and still sell it because they have left overs and they are still ALLOWED TO SELL IT and the law is very grey so you cant do anything to them,,but are those fellas natural? hell no they are not,,they are more hormonized than fellas on dianabol

all the dry gains you see on naturals come from DESIGNER STEROIDS with are real steroids in addition to tne or test prop and growth hormone,,is that a natural bodybuilder? hell no its not,,a true natural bodybuilder will be 5'9 180 at 10% and he will be very very dedicated and even then any juicer will wipe the floor with him even if the juicer is little more body fat %

this cult is MAINLY hormones,,the finnishing touch is nutrition ,,

training should always be when youre on ,,when youre off you shoudnt even enter a gym its useless for a bodybuilder,,pct is also compete useless and made up by the dantas of the worlds to gain money

gh15 approved
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« Reply #212 on: August 09, 2010, 08:22:55 PM »
   This is a real expert!

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Re: For all you haters of me and lovers of GH15 ...
« Reply #213 on: August 09, 2010, 08:25:51 PM »
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« Reply #214 on: August 09, 2010, 08:26:26 PM »
Howard
here is why I dislike you
You, in my opinion, are the type of person who makes posts on here that YOU think are funny.  I picture you then bursting out laughing at your own posts while sitting there and constantly refreshing the screen praying that someone finds ANY of your posts funny. However, 99.99% of the time they are lame and unfunny. You come across as ultra creepy

anyways just my 2 cents

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Re: For all you haters of me and lovers of GH15 ...
« Reply #215 on: August 09, 2010, 08:28:25 PM »
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AHAHAHAHAHHA you have no idea how hard I laughed at that

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Re: For all you haters of me and lovers of GH15 ...
« Reply #216 on: August 09, 2010, 08:29:53 PM »
AHAHAHAHAHHA you have no idea how hard I laughed at that
what about this?

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« Reply #217 on: August 09, 2010, 08:32:25 PM »
what about this?

no lol's

and to Howard---dude you are super creepy, thats just a given---you have pedo written ALL OVER you

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Re: Why GH15 is full of it / is he Disgusted?
« Reply #218 on: August 09, 2010, 08:32:45 PM »
friends,,this is important that you understand what gh15 is writing here,,first of im not disgusted,,he has a lot of knowledge and say the truth but im not him,,second i repededly say here that the absolut highest authority on your board when it comes to hormones is van b ,,there is a reason i back up van b ,,he is the closest to the real deal when it comes to what a professional actually do and also describe in good language the importance of hormones in sports in particular bodybuilding,,

disgusted does say it like it is and tell you the truth from the posting i read in this thread,,van b though show consitancy in giving you the right knowledge closest you will ever find to what the reality is,,that is why getny hate him so much ,,thats why many discredit him because he is saying the truth and thats why i put him as my lutenent in the bible,,

now,,we all know when it comes to bodybuilding the board of body of science is the final authority about drugs and where everyone in the know is ,,i consider william and ronny t as good embasador of true bodybuilding,,,

as i said before ,,the drug market is huge,,we have now days drugs like mdrol hdrol that are real drugs that stayed in the dark because the grey zone of othe fda,,a loop,,they are very very strong drugs,,so they are used by kids who order them with out even needing a dealer ,,they go to block buster and just get it like you get movie ,,you get your drugs online together with the movie and pizza you oroder,,


tbomb said gh15 said to be lazy abotu training,,NO gh15 didnt say to be laxy ,,gh15 said that the drugs are the most important factor in the bodybuilder physiqe,,training come third after nutrition,,ofcourese you need to train and be consistant with both training  and drugs because if you dont train you wont develop to the  most potential ,,the muscle need resistance stimulation in the form of training,,so thats that

to finish this i will add one more thing,,you as a bodybuilder can stop working chest with free barbel,,you can use hammer incline ,,and still grow the chest to be top of the top,,it is all in the drugs respond  and the dosaes in addition to resistance training in any form,,lifters still do not get this concept,,you can have huge legs with out squating even once! you can have amazing arms if you got good response to the hormones and genetically good arms even if you work with machines only ...infact you will isolate the muscle much better,,

there is aura the older generation did around bodybuilding which is wrong and misleading and misguided,,take a good look at thomas prince,,this is a very very good example of how much drugs a major 90% factor of a bodybuilder,,

no test = no bodybuilder ...learn it ,,

i told you before the older generation claimed to only use 2 dianabol and little deca while in reality they pumped themselves with 1 gramn testosterona,,thats where the lie was,,the natural generation now which ofcourse is not  natural ...keep saying it is but behind your backl buy superdrols from companies who sit online and still sell it because they have left overs and they are still ALLOWED TO SELL IT and the law is very grey so you cant do anything to them,,but are those fellas natural? hell no they are not,,they are more hormonized than fellas on dianabol

all the dry gains you see on naturals come from DESIGNER STEROIDS with are real steroids in addition to tne or test prop and growth hormone,,is that a natural bodybuilder? hell no its not,,a true natural bodybuilder will be 5'9 180 at 10% and he will be very very dedicated and even then any juicer will wipe the floor with him even if the juicer is little more body fat %

this cult is MAINLY hormones,,the finnishing touch is nutrition ,,

training should always be when youre on ,,when youre off you shoudnt even enter a gym its useless for a bodybuilder,,pct is also compete useless and made up by the dantas of the worlds to gain money

gh15 approved


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Re: Why GH15 is full of it / is he Disgusted?
« Reply #219 on: August 09, 2010, 08:34:17 PM »
friends,,this is important that you understand what gh15 is writing here,,first of im not disgusted,,he has a lot of knowledge and say the truth but im not him,,second i repededly say here that the absolut highest authority on your board when it comes to hormones is van b ,,there is a reason i back up van b ,,he is the closest to the real deal when it comes to what a professional actually do and also describe in good language the importance of hormones in sports in particular bodybuilding,,

disgusted does say it like it is and tell you the truth from the posting i read in this thread,,van b though show consitancy in giving you the right knowledge closest you will ever find to what the reality is,,that is why getny hate him so much ,,thats why many discredit him because he is saying the truth and thats why i put him as my lutenent in the bible,,

now,,we all know when it comes to bodybuilding the board of body of science is the final authority about drugs and where everyone in the know is ,,i consider william and ronny t as good embasador of true bodybuilding,,,

as i said before ,,the drug market is huge,,we have now days drugs like mdrol hdrol that are real drugs that stayed in the dark because the grey zone of othe fda,,a loop,,they are very very strong drugs,,so they are used by kids who order them with out even needing a dealer ,,they go to block buster and just get it like you get movie ,,you get your drugs online together with the movie and pizza you oroder,,


tbomb said gh15 said to be lazy abotu training,,NO gh15 didnt say to be laxy ,,gh15 said that the drugs are the most important factor in the bodybuilder physiqe,,training come third after nutrition,,ofcourese you need to train and be consistant with both training  and drugs because if you dont train you wont develop to the  most potential ,,the muscle need resistance stimulation in the form of training,,so thats that

to finish this i will add one more thing,,you as a bodybuilder can stop working chest with free barbel,,you can use hammer incline ,,and still grow the chest to be top of the top,,it is all in the drugs respond  and the dosaes in addition to resistance training in any form,,lifters still do not get this concept,,you can have huge legs with out squating even once! you can have amazing arms if you got good response to the hormones and genetically good arms even if you work with machines only ...infact you will isolate the muscle much better,,

there is aura the older generation did around bodybuilding which is wrong and misleading and misguided,,take a good look at thomas prince,,this is a very very good example of how much drugs a major 90% factor of a bodybuilder,,

no test = no bodybuilder ...learn it ,,

i told you before the older generation claimed to only use 2 dianabol and little deca while in reality they pumped themselves with 1 gramn testosterona,,thats where the lie was,,the natural generation now which ofcourse is not  natural ...keep saying it is but behind your backl buy superdrols from companies who sit online and still sell it because they have left overs and they are still ALLOWED TO SELL IT and the law is very grey so you cant do anything to them,,but are those fellas natural? hell no they are not,,they are more hormonized than fellas on dianabol

all the dry gains you see on naturals come from DESIGNER STEROIDS with are real steroids in addition to tne or test prop and growth hormone,,is that a natural bodybuilder? hell no its not,,a true natural bodybuilder will be 5'9 180 at 10% and he will be very very dedicated and even then any juicer will wipe the floor with him even if the juicer is little more body fat %

this cult is MAINLY hormones,,the finnishing touch is nutrition ,,

training should always be when youre on ,,when youre off you shoudnt even enter a gym its useless for a bodybuilder,,pct is also compete useless and made up by the dantas of the worlds to gain money

gh15 approved
This is Howie approved you douchbag!

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Re: For all you haters of me and lovers of GH15 ...
« Reply #220 on: August 09, 2010, 08:35:27 PM »
no lol's

and to Howard---dude you are super creepy, thats just a given---you have pedo written ALL OVER you

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Re: For all you haters of me and lovers of GH15 ...
« Reply #221 on: August 09, 2010, 08:36:28 PM »
Howard, does your girlfriend watch Three stooges reels off your forehead late at night while you sleep?

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Re: Why GH15 is full of it / is he Disgusted?
« Reply #222 on: August 09, 2010, 08:38:45 PM »
hes saying he wishes people would have told him the truth. telling people that only steroids matter, and training really doesnt mean much, is just wrong. maybe theres 1 or 2 guys out there who can get on juice, never make any strength gains, and get some good results. but nobody is ever going to get huge unless they are consistantly getting stronger.

 
Not to nitpick  ;D but this bit here

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but nobody is ever going to get huge unless they are consistantly getting stronger.

As long as theres intensity the muscle will recover and grow.As long as theres progressive overload then you are heading in the right direction..

At the begining you can get stronger very quickly but this does start to slow over time..Of all the bigger BB's in the world actualy Ill say "built" and Im not just talking in the pro ranks but everywhere , in every gym throughout the world how many of the real BBs are repping out with 200kg on the bench etc etc ? plus other exercises.

I mean impressive BBs not the fat wanabe ones.

Sure getting a muscle stronger is one way but as long as the intensity is there thats all that matters,

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Re: Why GH15 is full of it / is he Disgusted?
« Reply #223 on: August 09, 2010, 08:39:35 PM »
Howard, what was it you said? Read closely. :D

You are exactly like Basile. Basile believes one could win the Olympia without drugs if he just found the "right" training program. It is possible you know.

I don't think Basille ever said that

No?

As anyone knows who has been around for 50 years the muscleheads stopped serious training decades ago and have relied upon drugs. This is ubiquitous and therefore you can't find natural pros. That doesn't mean it isn't possible. If we accept that Reeves, Ross and Grimek were natural then they could easily be a Mr Olympia with modern training, equipment and nutrition knowledge.

To me what is kinda sad is here we have an actual former Mr Canada with decades of diet and training wisdom (YOU Vince!) .

You call that wisdom? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

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Re: For all you haters of me and lovers of GH15 ...
« Reply #224 on: August 09, 2010, 08:39:36 PM »
Howard, does your girlfriend watch Three stooges reels off your forehead late at night while you sleep?
No she watches them off my back doing a massive lat spread  :-*
Now go suck a fart out of dead cats ass and go to bed sweety