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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2010, 11:40:53 AM »
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Please you leftists claim you hate fascists and fascim yet applaud policies that are almost a tee fascist in nature.

Oh dear!

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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2010, 12:09:27 PM »
Seriously! They do not do any thinking of their own.
LOL yea I bet you think the stimulus is working and that the health care bill is going to save us money dont you?

all b/c obammers said so...

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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2010, 12:17:46 PM »
LOL yea I bet you think the stimulus is working and that the health care bill is going to save us money dont you?

all b/c obammers said so...

If you think I think that then it must be true.

Whether I do, or do not is irrelevant.

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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2010, 12:20:01 PM »
If you think I think that then it must be true.

Whether I do, or do not is irrelevant.

I think you are probably as pissed off as the rest of us right now, just for a few different reasons.  Rightfully so too IMHO. 

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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2010, 12:28:40 PM »
If you think I think that then it must be true.

Whether I do, or do not is irrelevant.
Seriously! They do not do any thinking of their own.
ohhh the irony...

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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2010, 06:07:29 PM »
Because liberals are also the enemy.

You, the conservatives, are the only TRUE Americans. Only YOU know the truth. Only YOU know what is good for the country.

I fucking hate fascism with a passion!



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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2010, 06:35:15 PM »
Funny how no leftists in this thread have even bothered refuting the belief that the left doesn't defend Christianity as much as it defends Islam (probably because they know it's true).

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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #57 on: August 22, 2010, 06:46:32 PM »
Funny how no leftists in this thread have even bothered refuting the belief that the left doesn't defend Christianity as much as it defends Islam (probably because they know it's true).

True.  And it's not so much defending Christians as it is defending the First Amendment. 

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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #58 on: August 22, 2010, 10:02:55 PM »
Funny how no leftists in this thread have even bothered refuting the belief that the left doesn't defend Christianity as much as it defends Islam (probably because they know it's true).

It's actually very simple, true leftists can't defend it because it would go against their own core beliefs. The core beliefs of "Leftism" are founded largely upon social justice, which is contrary to biblical scripture, "Leftism" is also largely based on "what feels good" rather than what is good. Now some leftists call themselves Christians, that's between them and God but the core beliefs of a leftists still clash with the core beliefs of Christianity and for a leftists their "Leftism" takes precedent over their own religion every single time. 

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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #59 on: August 22, 2010, 10:15:33 PM »
Look at the left and the progressive mindset over the past few years in this country--

1) Minorities should be give special treatment as well as preferences in academia and at the workplace. Affirmative action/ racial quotas will undo the negative effects of past discrimination. The result will eventually be a level playing field for everybody and less minorities will gravitate toward illegal activity . = FAIL
2) If we apologize to the rest of the world and soften Americas position of power, the rest of the world will like us a lot more and other countries will be more willing to do what we ask of them. In the end, this will level the playfield on the international stage and make the world safer. = FAIL
3) By being tough on Israel and giving the Palestinian authority more respect and latitude, the peace process will move forward and substantial gains toward peace will be made. Also, if the Palestinians are given the option to democratically elect their leaders, they will move away from terrorism. FAIL
4) If America avoids divisive language and agrees to talk with Iran, Iran will eventually compromise and end it's nuclear program.= FAIL
5) More government spending, more government regulation, higher taxes, more government entitlement programs, as well as taxing luxury items and the wealthy will stimulate the economy and create jobs= FAIL
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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #60 on: August 23, 2010, 06:28:13 AM »
Look at the left and the progressive mindset over the past few years in this country--

1) Minorities should be give special treatment as well as preferences in academia and at the workplace. Affirmative action/ racial quotas will undo the negative effects of past discrimination. The result will eventually be a level playing field for everybody and less minorities will gravitate toward illegal activity . = FAIL
2) If we apologize to the rest of the world and soften Americas position of power, the rest of the world will like us a lot more and other countries will be more willing to do what we ask of them. In the end, this will level the playfield on the international stage and make the world safer. = FAIL
3) By being tough on Israel and giving the Palestinian authority more respect and latitude, the peace process will move forward and substantial gains toward peace will be made. Also, if the Palestinians are given the option to democratically elect their leaders, they will move away from terrorism. FAIL
4) If America avoids divisive language and agrees to talk with Iran, Iran will eventually compromise and end it's nuclear program.= FAIL
5) More government spending, more government regulation, higher taxes, more government entitlement programs, as well as taxing luxury items and the wealthy will stimulate the economy and create jobs= FAIL
6- 25 ( feel free to keep adding to this list)


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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #61 on: August 23, 2010, 07:29:46 AM »
Beach,

The left is a tool of Satan.    :)

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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #62 on: August 23, 2010, 07:55:35 AM »
I can see and empathize with both sides of this argument. What bothers me worse than if the mosque/cultural center ever gets built or not is this penchant for people to pigeon hole other people into nice neat catogories like Left wing Liberal, or Right wing Radical thinking that alone wins their argument. I'm neither liberal nor conservative on all issues. It's an insult that based on any one single position that someone would label me either of those things in an attempt to somehow discount my opinion as being less valuable as theirs.
As I've said before, I believe it is detrimental to us as U.S. citizens that we get so caught up in the us against them ferver of Republicans and Democrats. liverals vereses Conservatives,  that we lose sight of the fact that BOTH parties have members in power that are figuratively raping us while they talk about they, once in power, will save us all.
Bottom line is, on this particular issue I disagree with some of you. That doesn't mean you are an idiot, radical, uninformed, less intelligent etc etc. It just means we don't agree on the issue. Hell, I could be wrong, and if shown to be wrong, I would change my opinion. But until then, why do some feel the need to resort to name calling and insults in a discussion? Just wondering..     

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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2010, 08:18:11 AM »
What say you oh tolerant ones? 

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Giant Cross Stirs Controversy in Vermont
WPTZ ^ | 8-23-10 | Jackie Bender



LYNDON, Vt. -- Richard Downing and his wife Joan used to light up their 24-foot cross outside of their chapel during holy seasons. The town's development review board has already limited the number of days it can be lit up, and now officials want the cross taken down entirely.

"They felt that because of aesthetics it did not meet the character of the neighborhood, and so therefore, should not be there at all," said Municipal Manager Dan Hill of the Act 250 decision.

The Downings are appealing both rulings. They told Newschannel 5 that they are trying to appease neighbors by offering to plant trees around the cross, investing in dimmer lights and blocking out the light on certain sides of the cross. They want the cross to stay standing, and to be lit during Advent, Lent, and Mary's birthday.

"If it was a commercial thing and just any old sign, that would be fine," said Richard Downing, "But this is a cross. It's an integral part of any Catholic church. I've never seen a Catholic church that didn't have a cross on it."

Neighbors and town officials said the objection is not religious, and mostly concerns the lighting. But the Downings said the rulings have become an obstacle to their religious practices.

"We just think that they're infringing on our rights to practice our religion, and I think that they've gone a little too far in this case," Downing said.

A court ruling on the cross is expected in November.


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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #64 on: August 23, 2010, 08:50:50 AM »
I can see and empathize with both sides of this argument. What bothers me worse than if the mosque/cultural center ever gets built or not is this penchant for people to pigeon hole other people into nice neat catogories like Left wing Liberal, or Right wing Radical thinking that alone wins their argument. I'm neither liberal nor conservative on all issues. It's an insult that based on any one single position that someone would label me either of those things in an attempt to somehow discount my opinion as being less valuable as theirs.
As I've said before, I believe it is detrimental to us as U.S. citizens that we get so caught up in the us against them ferver of Republicans and Democrats. liverals vereses Conservatives,  that we lose sight of the fact that BOTH parties have members in power that are figuratively raping us while they talk about they, once in power, will save us all.
Bottom line is, on this particular issue I disagree with some of you. That doesn't mean you are an idiot, radical, uninformed, less intelligent etc etc. It just means we don't agree on the issue. Hell, I could be wrong, and if shown to be wrong, I would change my opinion. But until then, why do some feel the need to resort to name calling and insults in a discussion? Just wondering..    

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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #65 on: August 23, 2010, 08:53:53 AM »
I can see and empathize with both sides of this argument. What bothers me worse than if the mosque/cultural center ever gets built or not is this penchant for people to pigeon hole other people into nice neat catogories like Left wing Liberal, or Right wing Radical thinking that alone wins their argument. I'm neither liberal nor conservative on all issues. It's an insult that based on any one single position that someone would label me either of those things in an attempt to somehow discount my opinion as being less valuable as theirs.
As I've said before, I believe it is detrimental to us as U.S. citizens that we get so caught up in the us against them ferver of Republicans and Democrats. liverals vereses Conservatives,  that we lose sight of the fact that BOTH parties have members in power that are figuratively raping us while they talk about they, once in power, will save us all.
Bottom line is, on this particular issue I disagree with some of you. That doesn't mean you are an idiot, radical, uninformed, less intelligent etc etc. It just means we don't agree on the issue. Hell, I could be wrong, and if shown to be wrong, I would change my opinion. But until then, why do some feel the need to resort to name calling and insults in a discussion? Just wondering..    

In a sane world, the Imam, who claims to want to build bridges and is a man of the cloth, would have moved this thing without the need  for all of this crappola based on decency and sensisitivies of the fact that the area is a burial ground of 3,000 dead NY'ers at the hands of Islam inspired terrorists who were funded by SA and other sources very likely to be funding this thing. 


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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #66 on: August 23, 2010, 09:11:35 AM »
I'm not defending Muslims, but the American Christians (Bush People) were 100% behind the war of aggression that's responsible for hundreds of thousands of innocent people being killed.

That's extremely christian...  ::)



I hope people who supported this despicable act are delt with by god when their time comes.

i know it won't do any good because you don't want to hear the truth but it wasn't Bush people who voted to use the American armed forces against Iraq.  The leaders of the present democratic party voted in favor of deposing Sadaam Hussein too.  It just chaps my ass that all of you simply refuse to accept the truth.

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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #67 on: August 23, 2010, 09:29:25 AM »
i know it won't do any good because you don't want to hear the truth but it wasn't Bush people who voted to use the American armed forces against Iraq.  The leaders of the present democratic party voted in favor of deposing Sadaam Hussein too.  It just chaps my ass that all of you simply refuse to accept the truth.

I think you may be right. I don't recall a lot of opposition to the plan to invade Iraq. The White House didn't consult me about it either or I could have saved them a lot of lives and money. Was the presentation both parties received prior to giving approval as mistaken as the one Powell gave us?     

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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #68 on: August 23, 2010, 11:59:02 AM »
Look at the left and the progressive mindset over the past few years in this country--

1) Minorities should be give special treatment as well as preferences in academia and at the workplace. Affirmative action/ racial quotas will undo the negative effects of past discrimination. The result will eventually be a level playing field for everybody and less minorities will gravitate toward illegal activity . = FAIL
2) If we apologize to the rest of the world and soften Americas position of power, the rest of the world will like us a lot more and other countries will be more willing to do what we ask of them. In the end, this will level the playfield on the international stage and make the world safer. = FAIL
3) By being tough on Israel and giving the Palestinian authority more respect and latitude, the peace process will move forward and substantial gains toward peace will be made. Also, if the Palestinians are given the option to democratically elect their leaders, they will move away from terrorism. FAIL
4) If America avoids divisive language and agrees to talk with Iran, Iran will eventually compromise and end it's nuclear program.= FAIL
5) More government spending, more government regulation, higher taxes, more government entitlement programs, as well as taxing luxury items and the wealthy will stimulate the economy and create jobs= FAIL
6- 25 ( feel free to keep adding to this list)

Great Post... Here's another one for the list.
6. Let's allow illegal aliens to flood states like Arizona...and if the state actually attempts to protect it's border and actually enforce already existing federal immigration laws...Let's sue them! That way, when we give amnesty to several million illegals, we've just expanded the democrat voting base. Never mind that they will bankrupt the state with the social costs, increase the crime rate, send their money earned back to Mexico and eventually turn America into a 3rd world shithole- FAIL

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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #69 on: August 23, 2010, 12:00:08 PM »
I can see and empathize with both sides of this argument. What bothers me worse than if the mosque/cultural center ever gets built or not is this penchant for people to pigeon hole other people into nice neat catogories like Left wing Liberal, or Right wing Radical thinking that alone wins their argument. I'm neither liberal nor conservative on all issues. It's an insult that based on any one single position that someone would label me either of those things in an attempt to somehow discount my opinion as being less valuable as theirs.
As I've said before, I believe it is detrimental to us as U.S. citizens that we get so caught up in the us against them ferver of Republicans and Democrats. liverals vereses Conservatives,  that we lose sight of the fact that BOTH parties have members in power that are figuratively raping us while they talk about they, once in power, will save us all.
Bottom line is, on this particular issue I disagree with some of you. That doesn't mean you are an idiot, radical, uninformed, less intelligent etc etc. It just means we don't agree on the issue. Hell, I could be wrong, and if shown to be wrong, I would change my opinion. But until then, why do some feel the need to resort to name calling and insults in a discussion? Just wondering..    

I agree with some of this.  Trying to label someone based on their position on an issue or two isn't always accurate.  

I don't, however, believe calling someone a "liberal" or "conservative" is an insult or "name calling."  

There are a number of people who are incapable of having discussions without insulting people.  It's not unique to the board.  Just a fact of life.  

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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #70 on: August 23, 2010, 12:01:03 PM »
i know it won't do any good because you don't want to hear the truth but it wasn't Bush people who voted to use the American armed forces against Iraq.  The leaders of the present democratic party voted in favor of deposing Sadaam Hussein too.  It just chaps my ass that all of you simply refuse to accept the truth.

Correct.

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Re: Why Won't the Left Defend Christians As Fiercely As It Defends Muslims?
« Reply #71 on: August 23, 2010, 01:16:12 PM »
Beach,

The left is a tool of Satan.    :)

lol.  The left is da debil.   :D