Proof: It is not how much you lift, it is how much you look like you can lift.

[dantelis]

This study seems to back Chick's statement that the key to bodybuilding isn't related to how much you can lift, but how much you look like you can lift.  Article states, "Researchers from McMaster University found that lifting lighter weights for longer is just as effective at bulking up the body.  The secret is to pump iron until you reach muscle fatigue."  Looks like this backs Serge Nubret's routine of lifting lighter weights for more reps.  (Lighter relative to most bodybuilders at the time.  Probably quite heavy to most amateur bodybuilders.)  Certainly wouldn't mind having the same results as Serge.  He had a great physique.



Want bulging muscles? Why lighter weights are the key to pumping iron

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1302415/Want-bulging-muscles-Why-lighter-weights-key-pumping-iron.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[ManBearPig...]

oh no, another fatigue vs overload vs pump vs volume vs weight debate.  oh brother.

[Nirvana]

muscles get stressed, they grow

no debate about how to stress them

[240 is Back]

apply the user vs natural dynamic to the pumping vs heavy lifting argument.

[mesmorph78]

I prefer to lift weights and be fucking strong regardless of how I look as a man my first perogative is to be strong.  Let's see How  the "how much you look like you can lift ... Helps in a fight.
 

[che]

  Let's see How  the "how much you look like you can lift ... Helps in a fight.
 

   Oh brother

[Voice of Doom]

that photo of Serge looks fantastic!!

It was a sad day when the thin waist left the bodybuilding stage.

[JP_RC]

I prefer to lift weights and be fucking strong regardless of how I look as a man my first perogative is to be strong.  Let's see How  the "how much you look like you can lift ... Helps in a fight.
 

Yeah, I'm worried about "fighting"............

[Bobby]

I prefer to lift weights and be fucking strong regardless of how I look as a man my first perogative is to be strong.  Let's see How  the "how much you look like you can lift ... Helps in a fight.
 

yes because benching 400 makes u a great fighter..... on the other hand looking like you can bench 400 will scare most off so there will never even be a fight

[Darren Avey]

I prefer to lift weights and be fucking strong regardless of how I look as a man my first perogative is to be strong.  Let's see How  the "how much you look like you can lift ... Helps in a fight.
 

Ah so you re one of those people who think just because you can lift a few weights youre a bad ass fighter!! My lord theres so many of you out there its unreal.

[~UN_$ung~]

old news............all roads lead to rome


you can increase load, increase repititions, increase volume.....



that whole Super heavy weight school., in most cases, does little more then get you hurt

[_bruce_]

Bullshit.

[JP_RC]

old news............all roads lead to rome


you can increase load, increase repititions, increase volume.....



that whole Super heavy weight school., in most cases, does little more then get you hurt

QFT

[funk51]

I prefer to lift weights and be fucking strong regardless of how I look as a man my first perogative is to be strong.  Let's see How  the "how much you look like you can lift ... Helps in a fight.
 

       what helps in a real fight to the death is a gun,ref chris rock. muscle and bone is no match for cold steel.

[mesmorph78]

Ah so you re one of those people who think just because you can lift a few weights youre a bad ass fighter!! My lord theres so many of you out there its unreal.

no my friend I was a fighter before I ever touched a weight
what I'm saying in strength is and should be the main goal ... I have both size and strength... But to me strength is my goal... Simple

[Darren Avey]

no my friend I was a fighter before I ever touched a weight
what I'm saying in strength is and should be the main goal ... I have both size and strength... But to me strength is my goal... Simple

Explain

[Tapeworm]

       what helps in a real fight to the death is a gun,ref chris rock. muscle and bone is no match for cold steel.

Ah.  The riddle of steel.  You know what it is, don't you, boy?

[mesmorph78]

Explain because you are?
What you need take from what I said is
In my opinion any real man likes to be strong not only
LOOK like he's strong.
Peace

[tbombz]

mesomorph is a beast who benches 4 plates a side like its paper, darren avey is a wanna-be tough guy twink who benches 185 for a double. 

if your muscle has gotten bigger, then it has also gotten stronger.  a muscle can get stronger without getting bigger, but never bigger without getting stronger. that doesnt mean that you must powerlift to get huge. reps in the 6-8 range (average) is still best for hypertrophy. you need to get stronger in that rep range.

[Nirvana]

mesomorph is a beast who benches 4 plates a side like its paper, darren avey is a wanna-be tough guy twink who benches 185 for a double. 

if your muscle has gotten bigger, then it has also gotten stronger.  a muscle can get stronger without getting bigger, but never bigger without getting stronger. that doesnt mean that you must powerlift to get huge. reps in the 6-8 range (average) is still best for hypertrophy. you need to get stronger in that rep range.

x2

"a bigger muscle is a stronger muscle"

doesn't mean big legs = bigger squat because more than just legs are involved

same thing with benching and delts/triceps

[#1 Klaus fan]

Serge is a nice example because we all know how weak he was. 

[Darren Avey]

Come to London Shootfighters you big strong men, theres guys there who can just about bench 225 for one who ll break you in half in seconds

[Darren Avey]

Explain because you are?
What you need take from what I said is
In my opinion any real man likes to be strong not only
LOOK like he's strong.
Peace

Ive seen your videos yeh youre strong how that makes you a born fighter i dont know, running the streets of South London with Gary Lloyd Nelson i guess?!! 

[mesmorph78]

Ive seen your videos yeh youre strong how that makes you a born fighter i dont know, running the streets of South London with Gary Lloyd Nelson i guess?!! 

you've seen me pushing weight that's it do you know me... ?
Or anything about me.... ? Do I know or give a fuck who Gary nelson is?
 
Exactly ... I'm not gonna get drawn into a troll match so
I suggest you debate the subject of the thread... I've stated my opnion on the subject of the thread...
I suggest you do the same

[_bruce_]

Come to London Shootfighters you big strong men, theres guys there who can just about bench 225 for one who ll break you in half in seconds

Kudos to your friend from the slum.