Obama throws his support behind Mosque being built near ground zero

[EwaBeachBoy]

I will end and say Barak Osama is a freakin idiot!

He is leading this country to ruin. He is nto a christian..he is a muslim and is trying to turn this country into a muslim nation:

[EwaBeachBoy]

Obama is the only American President to bow before a Muslim king... he is not a true american or Christian!

By bowing before a muslim king, Obama made it a statement that Islam is above everything the United States stands for...he is damn idiot!

[CC973]

Your religion teaches to treat women like second class citizens, it teaches mercy killings, it condones brutalizing those who arent of the same religion as you.

Really?  Lets look at what Islam really has to say regarding the status of women...

In a truely Islamic society women have the following rights in Islam:
1. The right and duty to obtain education.

2. The right to have their own independent property.

3. The right to work to earn money if they need it or want it.

4. Equality of reward for equal deeds.

5. The right to express their opinion and be heard.

6. The right to provisions from the husband for all her needs and more.

7. The right to negotiate marriage terms of her choice.

8. The right to obtain divorce from her husband, even on the grounds that she simply can't stand him. (pls note that God deeply frowns upon divorce as a solution unless there is hardly any other alternative but it does not mean that men have more right to divorce their wives than women do.)

9. The right to keep all her own money (she is not responsible to maintain any relations).

10. The right to get sexual satisfaction from her husband.

11. custody of their children after divorce.

12. to refuse any marriage that does not please them

and more...
http://www.themodernreligion.com/women/w_rights_summary.htm

 

[EwaBeachBoy]

Really?  Lets look at what Islam really has to say regarding the status of women...

In a truely Islamic society women have the following rights in Islam:
1. The right and duty to obtain education.

2. The right to have their own independent property.

3. The right to work to earn money if they need it or want it.

4. Equality of reward for equal deeds.

5. The right to express their opinion and be heard.

6. The right to provisions from the husband for all her needs and more.

7. The right to negotiate marriage terms of her choice.

8. The right to obtain divorce from her husband, even on the grounds that she simply can't stand him. (pls note that God deeply frowns upon divorce as a solution unless there is hardly any other alternative but it does not mean that men have more right to divorce their wives than women do.)

9. The right to keep all her own money (she is not responsible to maintain any relations).

10. The right to get sexual satisfaction from her husband.

11. custody of their children after divorce.

12. to refuse any marriage that does not please them

and more...
http://www.themodernreligion.com/women/w_rights_summary.htm

 

Oh really?


Islam allows the hiusband to beat the wife to make her subserviant so she doesnt practice her rights

Ypu post the things above to make people believe it is a religion of equality and peace but its not

[CC973]

A small group of nutjobs? Be serious. Every single day, whether it is in Indonesia, Africa, the Phillipines, The Middle east,  there are Muslims committing Terrorist acts. Blowing themselves up..placing car bombs, slaughtering people. There are literally hundreds of thousands of Jihadists. No other religion comes close in modern society to having the multitude of terrorists that Islam has. And while there may be many so-called moderate muslims that will congregate at the new mosque, mathematically the odds are heavily in favor that there will be plenty of Muslims who are more radical. And to have a building at ground zero that houses even one of these lunatics is an abomination. Obama is shooting himself in the foot and dooming the future of the democrats by endorsing this Mosque lunacy against the will of 70% of Americans.

Yes a small group of radical nutjobs who don't represent the true teachings of the faith.  There are about 1.8 billion Muslims in the world and the vast majority are not looking to blow stuff up or start holy wars in the name of Allah. The same applies for christianity.  How much blood has been shed has taken place in the name of christianity?  Just as we should never judge christianity by the actions of christians,don't judge islam in that manner either.

[Hulkster]

the new yorkers are going to tear that place up. lol.

whats funny is that the head of a huge canadian muslim association has even spoke out publicly about it.

they feel it is insensitive to build a muslim community center/mosque so close to the location where "members of their own faith" (his words) killed so many innocent people.

and I think they are right.

[EwaBeachBoy]

Yes a small group of radical nutjobs who don't represent the true teachings of the faith.  There are about 1.8 billion Muslims in the world and the vast majority are not looking to blow stuff up or start holy wars in the name of Allah. The same applies for christianity.  How much blood has been shed has taken place in the name of christianity?  Just as we should never judge christianity by the actions of christians,don't judge islam in that manner either.

But their own religion teaches to use force against the infidels (non muslims). It also teaches death to anyone that isnt a muslim.

The  Bible says to do good deeds and it says the evils you do in secret will be made evident one day but in the end God will be the judge but the Quran teaches that anyone could be put to death and each muslim has the right to put non muslims to death who dont believe what they believe...read the darn Quran..dont say it is a religion pof peace when it  is Islamic law to put people death who arent muslims

[NarcissisticDeity]

Why would I want to set foot in a Mosque and learn about a religion that treats women like servants and second class citizens and condones wars to spread their religion?

I know that their are a lot of hypocrites in the christian churches..I myself am One of them but the Bible actually teaches you to love your neighbor and treat others as you would yourself...it doe4snt tell you like the Quran to kill those who arent of your beliefs....

not quite true.

Luke 19:27  But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

this is ' gentle Jesus ' saying this BTW

[mazrim]

The people who were responsible for what took place at ground zero do not represent Islam. The atrocities they committed actually place them outside the fold of the faith. Islam is a religion of peace. There are about 1.8 billion Muslims in the world and a few million of them are Americans (those numbers actually went up significantly after 911 because people actually studied the religion and read the Quran for themselves. There are plenty of crazy Christians out there who claim Christianity but their actions say otherwise. We should never judge or condemn an entire religion based on the actions of a small group of nutjobs.

Apparently, your reading comprehension isn't very good than if you believe for a second that the Qu'ran teaches Islam as being a religion of peace. This is one of the most blatantly stupid posts I have seen in quite awhile.

[CC973]

Oh really?


Ypu post the things above to make people believe it is a religion of equality and peace but its not

That is not what Islam teaches.  

Statistics prove that Muslim homes are not havens for domestic violence. Domestic violence is not more prominent in Islam, or any religion or race.

Islam has one of the lowest divorce rates in the world, would it not make sense that if so many women were being mistreated that Muslim marriages would have higher divorce rates?


"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them happiness, that ye may take away part of the dower [i.e money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness: on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brigns about through it a great deal of good" [The Quran, 4:19]

"If any do deeds of righteousness,- be they male or female - and have faith, they will enter heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them" [Quran, 4:124]

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah and asked him: what do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, AND DO NOT BEAT THEM" [Sunnah Abu Dawood, Book 11, Marriage, Number 2139]

[EwaBeachBoy]

not quite true.

Luke 19:27  But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

this is ' gentle Jesus ' saying this BTW

This is a parable. It's about the servant who hides the money the master gives him and does not invest it wisely. The parable is not literal, it means that, whatever God gives us in the way of talent or resources, we should use it wisely in His service.

Jesus was telling a story to illustrate a point, and the ruler in the story was the one who said that. It's not at all out of character for rulers in those days - or these, for that matter.

The parable is about judgment day. Reread the whole thing with that in mind and see if it makes sense to you.

[Hulkster]

Ronnie is still better.

[pkaz]

Why don't the build it in Afghanistan. I sure the Taliban need a peaceful place to worship.

[EwaBeachBoy]

That is not what Islam teaches.  

Statistics prove that Muslim homes are not havens for domestic violence. Domestic violence is not more prominent in Islam, or any religion or race.

Islam has one of the lowest divorce rates in the world, would it not make sense that if so many women were being mistreated that Muslim marriages would have higher divorce rates?


"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them happiness, that ye may take away part of the dower [i.e money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness: on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brigns about through it a great deal of good" [The Quran, 4:19]

"If any do deeds of righteousness,- be they male or female - and have faith, they will enter heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them" [Quran, 4:124]

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah and asked him: what do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, AND DO NOT BEAT THEM" [Sunnah Abu Dawood, Book 11, Marriage, Number 2139]

This is because the women live in fear. WHen a muslim woman divorces, she loses everything and is cast out on the streets.

Be honest for a chnage...stop ting pretty picturesd to make people believe that Islam treats females great..it doesnt

[mazrim]

not quite true.

Luke 19:27  But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

this is ' gentle Jesus ' saying this BTW

Parable.......Completely out of context. Taking one line and using it to make a point is not good without context.
We will all be judged at the end, but He never tells us to go around killing everyone who doesn't believe as we do. Not even close. We all have plenty of opportunity to come to Him throughout our lifetimes. In the end, however, if you do not believe then you will be judged and held accountable.

[Coach is Back!]

not quite true.

Luke 19:27  But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

this is ' gentle Jesus ' saying this BTW

Can't remember the last time I've seen a Christian strap on a bomb and kill innocent people.

[mazrim]

This is a parable. It's about the servant who hides the money the master gives him and does not invest it wisely. The parable is not literal, it means that, whatever God gives us in the way of talent or resources, we should use it wisely in His service.

Jesus was telling a story to illustrate a point, and the ruler in the story was the one who said that. It's not at all out of character for rulers in those days - or these, for that matter.

The parable is about judgment day. Reread the whole thing with that in mind and see if it makes sense to you.

Exactly.

[NarcissisticDeity]

This is a parable. It's about the servant who hides the money the master gives him and does not invest it wisely. The parable is not literal, it means that, whatever God gives us in the way of talent or resources, we should use it wisely in His service.

Jesus was telling a story to illustrate a point, and the ruler in the story was the one who said that. It's not at all out of character for rulers in those days - or these, for that matter.

The parable is about judgment day. Reread the whole thing with that in mind and see if it makes sense to you.

The old it's a parable plea  keep cherry picking what you think should be taken literally and what we should just take as a parable either it's the inherent word of God or it's just a bunch of parables , philosophy and tales you can't have it both ways

people can ' interpret ' that to mean Jesus wants everyone who wont follow him to be killed that's the problem with these Holy books people can't bend them to fit their agendas

[pkaz]

That is not what Islam teaches.  

Statistics prove that Muslim homes are not havens for domestic violence. Domestic violence is not more prominent in Islam, or any religion or race.

Islam has one of the lowest divorce rates in the world, would it not make sense that if so many women were being mistreated that Muslim marriages would have higher divorce rates?


"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them happiness, that ye may take away part of the dower [i.e money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness: on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brigns about through it a great deal of good" [The Quran, 4:19]

"If any do deeds of righteousness,- be they male or female - and have faith, they will enter heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them" [Quran, 4:124]

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah and asked him: what do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, AND DO NOT BEAT THEM" [Sunnah Abu Dawood, Book 11, Marriage, Number 2139]

"The 18-year-old, identified only as Bibi Aisha (Miss Aisha), told Time that her nose and ears were cut off by her abusive husband — with Taliban approval — to punish her for running away".

[NarcissisticDeity]

Parable.......Completely out of context. Taking one line and using it to make a point is not good without context.
We will all be judged at the end, but He never tells us to go around killing everyone who doesn't believe as we do. Not even close. We all have plenty of opportunity to come to Him throughout our lifetimes. In the end, however, if you do not believe then you will be judged and held accountable.

Yes and you will burn in Hell for eternity if you don't follow him  real peace & love right there  so if he doesn't preach to kill non-believers in this life he'll get you in the afterlife

[NarcissisticDeity]

Can't remember the last time I've seen a Christian strap on a bomb and kill innocent people.

Christians never killed innocent people? or just not recently? or you haven't seen much of it? how about Fundy Christians murdering abortion doctors?

there are many fundy christians in this country that would love to turn this country into a Christian Theocracy and start killing ALL non-Christians there just as deluded as the fundy Muslims

[jon cole]

Hi guy, i'm french, the muslim country, and barack "hussein" Obama fuck all the real american in the ass with the mosquee at ground zero, it's a real shame, i'm not american but i can fell the pain it create in heart of real american.

This decision astound me, i can't understand.


For all sissi "democrat" of getbig, islam is not a religion of piece, islam is not only a religion, it's a politico-religious thing, you can't comapre with catolisism.

The onlu goal of islam is domination at any cost, here in france pork meat is banned from all administration, school, everything is "hallal" now.
french traditionnal butcher selling pork are victim of agression and forced to close shop in muslim area, in the town where i work there is muslim library, muslim clothes shop sellin burka, muslim butcher etc etc, everything is muslim.EVERYTHING.

Islam control all the level of the life of people, there 's no politic in islamic country, the only political choice is islam, islam in all aspect of the life, watching tv, listenning radio, thinking about sex is blasphem because when you think about it you don"t think about allah.

Barak hussein is fooling you.
in one decision he make worst than all political french in 30 years.

PERIOD.

[jon cole]

That is not what Islam teaches.  

Statistics prove that Muslim homes are not havens for domestic violence. Domestic violence is not more prominent in Islam, or any religion or race.

Islam has one of the lowest divorce rates in the world, would it not make sense that if so many women were being mistreated that Muslim marriages would have higher divorce rates?


"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them happiness, that ye may take away part of the dower [i.e money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness: on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brigns about through it a great deal of good" [The Quran, 4:19]

"If any do deeds of righteousness,- be they male or female - and have faith, they will enter heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them" [Quran, 4:124]

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah and asked him: what do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, AND DO NOT BEAT THEM" [Sunnah Abu Dawood, Book 11, Marriage, Number 2139]

i live in France, i know islam and muslim, stop telling lies muslim asshole.
stop your propagande.

[jon cole]

Really?  Lets look at what Islam really has to say regarding the status of women...

In a truely Islamic society women have the following rights in Islam:
1. The right and duty to obtain education.

2. The right to have their own independent property.

3. The right to work to earn money if they need it or want it.

4. Equality of reward for equal deeds.

5. The right to express their opinion and be heard.

6. The right to provisions from the husband for all her needs and more.

7. The right to negotiate marriage terms of her choice.

8. The right to obtain divorce from her husband, even on the grounds that she simply can't stand him. (pls note that God deeply frowns upon divorce as a solution unless there is hardly any other alternative but it does not mean that men have more right to divorce their wives than women do.)

9. The right to keep all her own money (she is not responsible to maintain any relations).

10. The right to get sexual satisfaction from her husband.

11. custody of their children after divorce.

12. to refuse any marriage that does not please them

and more...
http://www.themodernreligion.com/women/w_rights_summary.htm

 

PROPAGANDE PROPAGANDE PROPAGANDE

[pkaz]

PROPAGANDE PROPAGANDE PROPAGANDE

As stated-----------"The 18-year-old, identified only as Bibi Aisha (Miss Aisha), told Time that her nose and ears were cut off by her abusive husband — with Taliban approval — to punish her for running away".