Salmonell Outbreak in Eggs! 500 million recalled!

[MORTALCOIL]

C'mon people. By now everybody should know that Chick is only really efficient at wearing outrageously colored shirts with white suits and dodging questions. Not answering them.

[Chick]

C'mon people. By now everybody should know that Chick is only really efficient at wearing outrageously colored shirts with white suits and dodging questions. Not answering them.

Every question has been answered, try actually reading

[buffdnet]

you can always trust a felony drug user
or a current/former ifbb "athletes" rep.

[Princess L]

So, if I read this correctly, there's a contradiction between what EWI and AllWhites says with regards to biotin and avidin.  There's no question with regards to salmonella which is killed via pasteurization.

Perhaps this will help explain further, as we have on our website:



What’s the difference between LIQUID and RAW egg whites?

The human body cannot completely and safely digest a raw egg white so if you like to do the “Rocky Routine” with a raw egg or raw egg white in your drink, you are wasting your time, not to mention the threat of Salmonella.

Avidin, an enzyme found in raw egg whites, blocks the uptake of Vitamin B6 (Biotin) causing a vitamin deficiency. You must cook the egg white to neutralize the Avidin and allow your body to safely digest the protein and utilize all its Amino acids.

100% pure liquid egg whites from Egg Whites International, are cooked, and yet kept in a liquid state. They are heat pasteurized and salmonella tested. The pasteurization process heats the egg white to 134 degrees for 31/2 minutes. This proper temperature kills the salmonella and neutralizes the Avidin without damaging the protein, to allow the egg white to be digested safely by the human body.

When you cook an egg white to the point of scrambled eggs, 150 degrees or more, you are overcooking the protein and denaturing the true value of the protein. Therefore, 100% Pure Liquid Egg Whites are “liquid” but not “raw”, making them the purest and most versatile form of protein, known to man, In The Entire World!

It appears EWI is the same as a common product in grocery stores - Better 'n Eggs All Whites.  This is what they say on their web site in the FAQ section:

http://www.betterneggs.com/faq/answer.cfm?qid=17

Do AllWhites need to be cooked in order to neutralize the Avidin protein that depletes Biotin? I'm a body builder and need to know.

Yes, AllWhites must be fully cooked in order for the Biotin present in egg whites to be available for absorption. In its natural raw state, Avidin, a protein found in egg whites, binds with Biotin (a B-vitamin). When bound to Avidin, our bodies are unable to absorb Biotin from the egg white. The heat treatment or pasteurization temperature of the AllWhites is not high enough to denature the Avidin protein, therefore the Biotin remains bound.

Looks like there's going to be more recalls.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38813154/ns/health-food_safety/?GT1=43001

Half-billion bad eggs, more could be recalled...

[Mr Nobody]

Thanks for the extensive reasearch Princess L. I'm staying away from all eggwhites especially Chick's for awhile.

[Chick]

Thanks for the extensive reasearch Princess L. I'm staying away from all eggwhites especially Chick's for awhile.

Funny you should say that...ours are the ONLY ones I would trust right now. We can dispute Biotin/ Avidin/ absorbtion ratios, etc all day long...but our eggs dont have any problems with salmonella outbreak, as do store bought.

[newmom]

I'll keep buying my 2 dozen eggs every other week.

[Mr Nobody]

I'll keep buying my 2 dozen eggs every other week.

R.I.P.

[newmom]

R.I.P.

LMAO, alot of people would love that but I hard boil a dozen every sunday and I have been doing this for the past month so it's safe to say I'm not taking a dirt nap anytime soon.

[NaturalWonder83]

Every question has been answered, try actually reading

yeah maybe they have been in the wacky zany fantasy world you call reality

looks like u are really taking a beating in this thread hollywood bob
are your arm pits sweating a lot from the stress?

[Chick]

yeah maybe they have been in the wacky zany fantasy world you call reality

looks like u are really taking a beating in this thread hollywood bob
are your arm pits sweating a lot from the stress?

No...why, were you looking to offer me money to sniff them?  I already explained to you, I'm not into your weird fetishes....freak.

[Chick]

Here is an email response which was sent to an inquiring mind from this site...




You can contact any Avidin / Biotin Antibody Laboratory in the country to verify this for yourself. Avidin is neutralized at a very low heat of only about 110 degrees. I don't know where your would have gotten 185 Degrees. This is hotter than normal pasteurization would be. The Egg would be cooked by then.
 
We do a low heat pasteurization of only 134 degrees for 3 1/2 minutes. This process keeps the Egg Whites moving through a series of tubes to keep them from cooking. By using this low moving heat process, we can keep the integrity of the protein intact, yet still kill all Salmonella and Listeria, and Neutralize the Avidin.
 
See our Website for more info if needed.
 
Feel free to contact me with any other concerns.
 
Sincerely,
 
Ray "Mac" McCabe
President
Egg Whites International

[Tapeworm]

Bob, I understand that you're just trying to do your job.  I'll follow it up with Ray regarding temps required to do away with avidin and salmonella. 

If I'm wrong, I'll bump the thread and eat my hat.  If I'm right, I might bump the thread too. 

[Chick]

Bob, I understand that you're just trying to do your job.  I'll follow it up with Ray regarding temps required to do away with avidin and salmonella. 

If I'm wrong, I'll bump the thread and eat my hat.  If I'm right, I might bump the thread too. 

I hope you spend as much time arguing with your grocer about the FDA and what standards they follow that allowed for over half a billion recalled eggs and hundreds of sick customers...

Ill keep you posted when we get our first complaint...

[MORTALCOIL]

I hope you spend as much time arguing with your grocer about the FDA and what standards they follow that allowed for over half a billion recalled eggs and hundreds of sick customers...

Ill keep you posted when we get our first complaint...

Nice way of turning it around. Strange thing is I've never seen on an egg box in any grocery store claims about anabolic virtues, etc.....That's where the problem lies. Claims that aren't backed up by any scientific datas. No claim, no false publicity.

[Chick]

Nice way of turning it around. Strange thing is I've never seen on an egg box in any grocery store claims about anabolic virtues, etc.....That's where the problem lies. Claims that aren't backed up by any scientific datas. No claim, no false publicity.

Anabolic virtues?

THere is no problem...other than your inability to actually comprehend what you read...all claims by our company are backed up, as was pointed out in the last email from the company president...They're eggwhites for Christssakes, not the cure for cancer.

In a world where even the amount of protein needed is disputed by every "expert" on earth, you're nickle and diming for empiracle test studies and double blind cases spread over a 25 yr. timespan looking to see if your body absorbs 0.005 or 0.006 % because of Avidin/ Biotin values...

Try getting your BP over 225 first...then we'll worry about how to spend your Mr. Olympia money, champ...

[MuscleMcMannus]

Anabolic virtues?

THere is no problem...other than your inability to actually comprehend what you read...all claims by our company are backed up, as was pointed out in the last email from the company president...They're eggwhites for Christssakes, not the cure for cancer.

In a world where even the amount of protein needed is disputed by every "expert" on earth, you're nickle and diming for empiracle test studies and double blind cases spread over a 25 yr. timespan looking to see if your body absorbs 0.005 or 0.006 % because of Avidin/ Biotin values...

Try getting your BP over 225 first...then we'll worry about how to spend your Mr. Olympia money, champ...

BOOM!

[MORTALCOIL]

Anabolic virtues?

THere is no problem...other than your inability to actually comprehend what you read...all claims by our company are backed up, as was pointed out in the last email from the company president...They're eggwhites for Christssakes, not the cure for cancer.

In a world where even the amount of protein needed is disputed by every "expert" on earth, you're nickle and diming for empiracle test studies and double blind cases spread over a 25 yr. timespan looking to see if your body absorbs 0.005 or 0.006 % because of Avidin/ Biotin values...

Try getting your BP over 225 first...then we'll worry about how to spend your Mr. Olympia money, champ...

Don't worry about how I spend my money. I wouldn't by any of those kind of products anyway. I just am amazed at the way other people spend theirs. And how much money is a Mr 'O making these days, I wonder? Won't make me hard though (I've got a real estate company in Paris and themarket is booming again)

[NaturalWonder83]

I hope you spend as much time arguing with your grocer about the FDA and what standards they follow that allowed for over half a billion recalled eggs and hundreds of sick customers...

Ill keep you posted when we get our first complaint...

dont bother-id rather hear from an actual employee or egg scientist of the company, as opposed to a clueless meathead who just bought his way into the company and doesnt know if hes coming or going

[Tapeworm]

all claims by our company are backed up, as was pointed out in the last email from the company president

That is what remains to be seen.  I would have preferred a peer reviewed study, but I'll settle for his suggestion to contact people to get an answer.  I appreciate his promt reply tho.

Ill keep you posted when we get our first complaint...

If 134 degrees doesn't kill salmonella, you might not have to wait too long.

In a world where even the amount of protein needed is disputed by every "expert" on earth, you're nickle and diming for empiracle test studies and double blind cases spread over a 25 yr. timespan looking to see if your body absorbs 0.005 or 0.006 % because of Avidin/ Biotin values...

No one has even mentioned protein absorbtion.  Are you sure you're following the conversation, Bob?

[Chick]

dont bother-id rather hear from an actual employee or egg scientist of the company, as opposed to a clueless meathead who just bought his way into the company and doesnt know if hes coming or going

I'm the vice president of the company, remedial....

[Chick]

That is what remains to be seen.  I would have preferred a peer reviewed study, but I'll settle for his suggestion to contact people to get an answer.  I appreciate his promt reply tho.

If 134 degrees doesn't kill salmonella, you might not have to wait too long.

No one has even mentioned protein absorbtion.  Are you sure you're following the conversation, Bob?

Wow...what a great streak of luck were having...7 years, thousands of customers, and no salmonella. What are the odds?

[Chick]

Don't worry about how I spend my money. I wouldn't by any of those kind of products anyway. I just am amazed at the way other people spend theirs. And how much money is a Mr 'O making these days, I wonder? Won't make me hard though (I've got a real estate company in Paris and themarket is booming again)

I'm not worried how you spend your millions ...as for spending it on "those kind of products"...I'm not sure what you're talking about...we sell EGG WHITES, pure and simple...they're not some bi-product, powder, or chemical formulation of...they're just safer than the ones people are getting sick on right now, and in gallon jugs.

As for Mr. O...he's making about 1.2M + whatever other investments he might have going on....I know...pales in comparison to you Mr. Trump...Thank God for the time zone difference or we may never have the presence of your wisdom here on Getbig.

[Cleanest Natural]

Chick is right about the temperature

if you hate him just say so but the whole argument about his bussiness is pointless IMO

[MORTALCOIL]

I'm not worried how you spend your millions ...as for spending it on "those kind of products"...I'm not sure what you're talking about...we sell EGG WHITES, pure and simple...they're not some bi-product, powder, or chemical formulation of...they're just safer than the ones people are getting sick on right now, and in gallon jugs.

As for Mr. O...he's making about 1.2M + whatever other investments he might have going on....I know...pales in comparison to you Mr. Trump...Thank God for the time zone difference or we may never have the presence of your wisdom here on Getbig.

Doesn't pale but not exactly fantasy material either. And you're welcome for the wisdom thing.