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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #175 on: August 31, 2010, 01:26:52 PM »
i havent even started---dont sweat it im gonna destroy you--ill start sooner or later--wanna up the ante?

in what way ?

when are you starting ?
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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #176 on: August 31, 2010, 01:44:13 PM »
in what way ?

when are you starting ?

o the contest is on--its started---dont worry about my thing, worry about yours---measurements are up

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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #177 on: August 31, 2010, 02:10:08 PM »
o the contest is on--its started---dont worry about my thing, worry about yours---measurements are up

are you having a breakdown at the thought of facing the titan known as fatpanda ?

a few post up you said you have not started yet  ???

where are your measurements ?
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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #178 on: August 31, 2010, 02:21:49 PM »
How many studies would you like that says protein isn't the same as a carb a carb isn the same as protein and both are not the same as fat and vis versa? If you would I will even break it down for you later on tonight just for the hopes you might understand the difference on each function of each macro. 

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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #179 on: August 31, 2010, 02:50:20 PM »
are you having a breakdown at the thought of facing the titan known as fatpanda ?

a few post up you said you have not started yet  ???

where are your measurements ?

only breakdown Im having is a laughter breakdown at the thought of u beating me

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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #180 on: August 31, 2010, 03:24:35 PM »
How many studies would you like that says protein isn't the same as a carb a carb isn the same as protein and both are not the same as fat and vis versa? If you would I will even break it down for you later on tonight just for the hopes you might understand the difference on each function of each macro. 
::) lets not deflect the truth now joe - deflection is a classic defence mechanism you know  ;)

lets keep this nice and simple:

can you disprove these metabolic ward studies ( the only valid studies that measure calories and fat loss macros) that show without question that calories and not macros are what counts when it comes to fat loss ?

don't bother answering - because you cannot.

you are quite simply wrong, on both this matter and to ever question me.
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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #181 on: August 31, 2010, 03:31:10 PM »
I guess the Glycemic Index means nothing

Fuck it.....10 sweet potatoes vs. 10 jelly filled donuts...."hello Dunkin Donuts, I'd like to place an order for pick up please"


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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #182 on: August 31, 2010, 03:40:49 PM »
Is Panda really that fat tuba player looking guy?
Ok. Now, that was (is still) hilarious, but (as usual) I've forgotten who threw it up. Step up and take a bow.  ;D

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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #183 on: August 31, 2010, 03:43:22 PM »
only breakdown Im having is a laughter breakdown at the thought of u beating me

where are your measurements josh ?

it seems to me you are already breaking our agreement:

no training log,
no diet log,
no measurements

whats going on  ???

are you not a man of your word ?

if you want to drop out go ahead - I'll accept the win, and will begin to prepare your youtube speech.
I guess the Glycemic Index means nothing

Fuck it.....10 sweet potatoes vs. 10 jelly filled donuts...."hello Dunkin Donuts, I'd like to place an order for pick up please"


Your name isn't Ripped Panda for a reason it seems

i guess you cannot read ?

also your logic is flawed - any food that produces high insulin levels could be advantageous during calorie deficit due to its effects on cortisol, and its protein sparring/synthesis effects. however I'm sure you knew that right  ::)

For the record ( and the simpletons) i do not recommend donuts over potatoes. There are much more micronutrients is a natural unprocessed food like potato rather than a refined food like donuts.

however calorie wise (and fat loss wise) a calorie IS a calorie  ;)

and yes the GI index does mean nothing - calories are what count.

i could go on and rip the GI index apart specifically in a scientific way if you like - but i get the feeling you would not comprehend the level of my explanations - nor the studies i could produce - you are clearly a mindless lemming.
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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #184 on: August 31, 2010, 03:49:55 PM »
fuck it - i enjoy owning you so much i will go head and rip you apart some more.

proof the GI index is as worthless as listening to myt1:

Should obese patients be counselled to follow a low-glycaemic index diet? No.
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In diabetes research the glycaemic index (GI) of carbohydrates has long been recognized and a low GI is recommended. The same is now often the case in lipid research. Recently, a new debate has arisen around whether a low-GI diet should also be advocated for appetite- and long-term body weight control. A systematic review was performed of published human intervention studies comparing the effects of high- and low-GI foods or diets on appetite, food intake, energy expenditure and body weight. In a total of 31 short-term studies (< 1 d), low-GI foods were associated with greater satiety or reduced hunger in 15 studies, whereas reduced satiety or no differences were seen in 16 other studies. Low-GI foods reduced ad libitum food intake in seven studies, but not in eight other studies. In 20 longer-term studies (< 6 months), a weight loss on a low-GI diet was seen in four and on a high-GI diet in two, with no difference recorded in 14. The average weight loss was 1.5 kg on a low-GI diet and 1.6 kg on a high-GI diet.   To conclude, there is no evidence at present that low-GI foods are superior to high-GI foods in regard to long-term body weight control. However, the ideal long-term study where ad libitum intake and fluctuations in body weight are permitted, and the diets are similar in all aspects except GI, has not yet been performed.


Reduced Glycemic Index and Glycemic Load Diets Do Not Increase the Effects of Energy Restriction on Weight Loss and Insulin Sensitivity in Obese Men and Women

Reducing the dietary glycemic load and the glycemic index was proposed as a novel approach to weight reduction. A parallel-design, randomized 12-wk controlled feeding trial with a 24-wk follow-up phase was conducted to test the hypothesis that a hypocaloric diet designed to reduce the glycemic load and the glycemic index would result in greater sustained weight loss than other hypocaloric diets. Obese subjects (n = 29) were randomly assigned to 1 of 3 diets providing 3138 kJ less than estimated energy needs: high glycemic index (HGI), low glycemic index (LGI), or high fat (HF). For the first 12 wk, all food was provided to subjects (feeding phase). Subjects (n = 22) were instructed to follow the assigned diet for 24 additional weeks (free-living phase). Total body weight was obtained and body composition was assessed by skinfold measurements. Insulin sensitivity was assessed by the homeostasis model (HOMA). At 12 wk, weight changes from baseline were significant in all groups but not different among groups (–9.3 ± 1.3 kg for the HGI diet, –9.9 ± 1.4 kg for the LGI diet, and –8.4 ± 1.5 kg for the HF diet). All groups improved in insulin sensitivity at the end of the feeding phase of the study. During the free-living phase, all groups maintained their initial weight loss and their improved insulin sensitivity. Weight loss and improved insulin sensitivity scores were independent of diet composition.   In summary, lowering the glycemic load and glycemic index of weight reduction diets does not provide any added benefit to energy restriction in promoting weight loss in obese subjects.


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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #185 on: August 31, 2010, 03:52:44 PM »
There's a reason that you see booksmart personal trainers come and go in every gym, and the one's that actually workout have endless client streams.  You can spew all the shit you want but what has been found to work is tried and true, and your logic has been shown to be false.  You are going to look like an ass at the end of this when your physique looks marginally better if that.  Not that I have a lot of faith in your competition since he's taking it so seriously that a tape measure is major investment.  BTW, nice array of equipment in that gym of yours.  Pick up some bands while you're at it why don't you. ::)

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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #186 on: August 31, 2010, 03:53:22 PM »
fuk panda you are stupid
my measurements are with my pictures on page 6

the contest has started
theres no fuking logs because I havent started diet and training yet because I saw your pictures and realized I dont have to start yet

so stfu, the contest is on, and worry about your own fat self

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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #187 on: August 31, 2010, 03:53:42 PM »
fuck it - i enjoy owning you so much i will go head and rip you apart some more.

proof the GI index is as worthless as listening to myt1:

Should obese patients be counselled to follow a low-glycaemic index diet? No.
Raben A.

Abstract
In diabetes research the glycaemic index (GI) of carbohydrates has long been recognized and a low GI is recommended. The same is now often the case in lipid research. Recently, a new debate has arisen around whether a low-GI diet should also be advocated for appetite- and long-term body weight control. A systematic review was performed of published human intervention studies comparing the effects of high- and low-GI foods or diets on appetite, food intake, energy expenditure and body weight. In a total of 31 short-term studies (< 1 d), low-GI foods were associated with greater satiety or reduced hunger in 15 studies, whereas reduced satiety or no differences were seen in 16 other studies. Low-GI foods reduced ad libitum food intake in seven studies, but not in eight other studies. In 20 longer-term studies (< 6 months), a weight loss on a low-GI diet was seen in four and on a high-GI diet in two, with no difference recorded in 14. The average weight loss was 1.5 kg on a low-GI diet and 1.6 kg on a high-GI diet.   To conclude, there is no evidence at present that low-GI foods are superior to high-GI foods in regard to long-term body weight control. However, the ideal long-term study where ad libitum intake and fluctuations in body weight are permitted, and the diets are similar in all aspects except GI, has not yet been performed.


Reduced Glycemic Index and Glycemic Load Diets Do Not Increase the Effects of Energy Restriction on Weight Loss and Insulin Sensitivity in Obese Men and Women

Reducing the dietary glycemic load and the glycemic index was proposed as a novel approach to weight reduction. A parallel-design, randomized 12-wk controlled feeding trial with a 24-wk follow-up phase was conducted to test the hypothesis that a hypocaloric diet designed to reduce the glycemic load and the glycemic index would result in greater sustained weight loss than other hypocaloric diets. Obese subjects (n = 29) were randomly assigned to 1 of 3 diets providing 3138 kJ less than estimated energy needs: high glycemic index (HGI), low glycemic index (LGI), or high fat (HF). For the first 12 wk, all food was provided to subjects (feeding phase). Subjects (n = 22) were instructed to follow the assigned diet for 24 additional weeks (free-living phase). Total body weight was obtained and body composition was assessed by skinfold measurements. Insulin sensitivity was assessed by the homeostasis model (HOMA). At 12 wk, weight changes from baseline were significant in all groups but not different among groups (–9.3 ± 1.3 kg for the HGI diet, –9.9 ± 1.4 kg for the LGI diet, and –8.4 ± 1.5 kg for the HF diet). All groups improved in insulin sensitivity at the end of the feeding phase of the study. During the free-living phase, all groups maintained their initial weight loss and their improved insulin sensitivity. Weight loss and improved insulin sensitivity scores were independent of diet composition.   In summary, lowering the glycemic load and glycemic index of weight reduction diets does not provide any added benefit to energy restriction in promoting weight loss in obese subjects.


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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #188 on: August 31, 2010, 03:55:26 PM »


the contest has started
theres no fuking logs because I havent started diet and training yet because I saw your pictures and realized I dont have to start yet



My apologies for what I said.  This logic makes perfect sense to me.  You might as well give him a full month head start ;D

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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #189 on: August 31, 2010, 03:56:42 PM »
fuk panda you are stupid
my measurements are with my pictures on page 6

the contest has started
theres no fuking logs because I havent started diet and training yet because I saw your pictures and realized I dont have to start yet

so stfu, the contest is on, and worry about your own fat self

hahaha i have to warn you josh i possess a dorian like size quality that the cameras dont seem to be able to capture  :D

you better up your meds if you think you dont need to start yet  ::)

when are you thinking of starting then ?
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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #190 on: August 31, 2010, 03:57:15 PM »
My apologies for what I said.  This logic makes perfect sense to me.  You might as well give him a full month head start ;D

i dont even know what you said

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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #191 on: August 31, 2010, 03:58:21 PM »
My apologies for what I said.  This logic makes perfect sense to me.  You might as well give him a full month head start ;D

ah glad to see you have a thick skull and weren't too embarrassed by how i handed your ass to you a few threads ago.

at least you will learn some things from me if you stick around long enough.
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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #192 on: August 31, 2010, 03:59:21 PM »
i dont even know what you said

I called you a lazy fucktard, but in a more polite manner.  Anyway, I took it back ;)

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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #193 on: August 31, 2010, 04:02:37 PM »
ah glad to see you have a thick skull and weren't too embarrassed by how i handed your ass to you a few threads ago.

at least you will learn some things from me if you stick around long enough.

You're thick skull would have realized my apology was to disturbia not you. 

You could be kicking his ass right now if you were more intent on applying your theories than trying to be a getbig hero and "saying" how right you are.   I really don't give a shit to argue with you.  Prove you are right and that the rest of us are wrong.  Only then have you "owned" anyone.

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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #194 on: August 31, 2010, 04:03:48 PM »
Fatpanda you blithering idiot, I've said this a million times before, with the general population (fat people like yourself) its no secret calorie controlled eating programs work (ie; Jenny Craig and all the other gimmick companies out there) I'm referring to bodybuilders and athletes, not the general public. You idiots are making an arguement that everyone already new. You, TA and Wavelength seem to think you can actually get contest ready on such a program, that's my arguement....fuck, what part don't you understand? Keep cutting and pasting shit you don't even come close to comprehending!

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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #195 on: August 31, 2010, 04:05:34 PM »
I called you a lazy fucktard, but in a more polite manner.  Anyway, I took it back ;)

shit--I am a lazy fuktard---its all good

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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #196 on: August 31, 2010, 04:06:45 PM »
fuk panda you are stupid
my measurements are with my pictures on page 6

the contest has started
theres no fuking logs because I havent started diet and training yet because I saw your pictures and realized I dont have to start yet

so stfu, the contest is on, and worry about your own fat self

so you are thinner, with bigger arms and chest  >:(

this will be a good victory.
You're thick skull would have realized my apology was to disturbia not you.  

You could be kicking his ass right now if you were more intent on applying your theories than trying to be a getbig hero and "saying" how right you are.   I really don't give a shit to argue with you.  Prove you are right and that the rest of us are wrong.  Only then have you "owned" anyone.

calm down gloria - i never said the apology was to me   ::)

you must have taken that owning to heart  :-\

also when i win in feb - that will be another owning for you ? can you survive another ?
Fatpanda you blithering idiot, I've said this a million times before, with the general population (fat people like yourself) its no secret calorie controlled eating programs work (ie; Jenny Craig and all the other gimmick companies out there) I'm referring to bodybuilders and athletes, not the general public. You idiots are making an arguement that everyone already new. You, TA and Wavelength seem to think you can actually get contest ready on such a program, that's my arguement....fuck, what part don't you understand? Keep cutting and pasting shit you don't even come close to comprehending!

hahahahahahahahahahahaha haha dumber than a box of rocks !

run along forrest - the bell is ringing.
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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #197 on: August 31, 2010, 04:09:52 PM »
Great answer, now prove me wrong or should I keep owning your ass like I do with TA everytime he opens his pie hole (I bet the word "pie" made you break out in a cold sweat)

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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #198 on: August 31, 2010, 04:18:34 PM »
Great answer, now prove me wrong or should I keep owning your ass like I do with TA everytime he opens his pie hole (I bet the word "pie" made you break out in a cold sweat)

hahahahahahahahaha you cannot be serious  ???

you do not have a leg to stand on.

prove you wrong hahahahaha try reading my previous posts.  ::)

actually try answering my question - can you disprove those metabolic ward studies? yes or no ?

i have owned you more times than i can keep track of - this is actually getting pathetic.
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Re: Official Fatpanda vs Disturbia Thread
« Reply #199 on: August 31, 2010, 05:27:21 PM »
::) lets not deflect the truth now joe - deflection is a classic defence mechanism you know  ;)

lets keep this nice and simple:

can you disprove these metabolic ward studies ( the only valid studies that measure calories and fat loss macros) that show without question that calories and not macros are what counts when it comes to fat loss ?

don't bother answering - because you cannot.

you are quite simply wrong, on both this matter and to ever question me.


This doesn't help me for shit. Give me the complete study. So far you haven't owned anyone but rather make a complete fool of yourself.