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This is comment about Men not saying that they are frugal, its a article posted today on yahoo...

This dude's comment, just broke it down. Warning, It's fairly long, and no it's not my comment, either, Do You agree, especially in bold:

"If Kurupt gave a f*** about a B***h, I'd always be broke/I'd never have no motherf***in' indo to smoke"

I don't use drugs, but, I like his line of thinking.

Women are a drain on my emotional and financial resources and most of them are even more selfish than men. Let's be honest: Sex is the number one reason men want women. The marriage of men and women is a tradition that is primarily born of the need/desire to lock down each other's genitals for mutual exclusivity. The idea of a man and woman enjoying each other's company is something that usually happens only after they find each other sexually agreeable. The concept of "love", as Huxley expounded upon in "Brave New World" is really kind of outmoded and fallacious. It is basically a lie that we tell ourselves and is a manifestation of personal insecurity.
So, when I came to realize that I really only wanted women for sex, the whole concept of wanting some sort of relationship with them became silly to me. Here is an experiment that I would like men to try: Think of a girl/woman you are fixated on at the moment. NOW: Masturbate. When you're done, you'll most likely notice that you won't think of a woman at all for 2-14 hours or so. This told me that I was indeed not interested in an actual relationship with a woman at all, but rather merely enjoying her body. The concept of making her my girlfriend or wife was really just my desire to have her vagina in my life more regularly. In fact, after I masturbate, a woman is absolutely the furthest thing from my mind.

When I examine the horrible things I have to resign myself to do during courtship, it makes me actually hate sex. All of the capitulating and compromising...listening to her yammer incessantly about nonsense, the things expected of me..it's sickening. Somewhere along the line, the human vagina has been deified and the man has been emasculated. How is it that society has allowed the woman's genitals to somehow be recognized as more valuable in the sexual equation?

Sex is overrated, and, once you grasp this concept and are able to control yourself, you'll find that you'll be able to more easily achieve your life goals and have a sense of inner peace. You have to masturbate intermittently, but, as you become less obsessed with sex, you will find that over time, you'll need to do so less and less, generally.

There is also a great deal of societal pressure for you to have a wife or a girlfriend. If you go for an extended period of time without one or the other, people start questioning your sexuality, which, for a heterosexual, masculine identifying man, can be somewhat embarrassing. Madison Avenue and popular media usually glorify/portray people paired up, even if that coupling is homosexual: You're made to feel like you "need someone" and if you go at it alone, you're less than a man and a social outcast. So, after you tackle the difficult task of mastering your own sex drive, you need to be able to at least partially dispel/deflect the feelings you may associate with other people's skewed perceptions of you.

Aside from my philosophical objections to the mating rituals of our society, I'd like to also commend other posters for their very astute (and true) statistical observations: The divorce rate is generally 52% and that number goes up exponentially for people with lower income and less education. Marriage is a crap shoot, and, since I work very hard for the little bit of money I make, I refuse to gamble so foolishly

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Re: Thuis dude done brought the truth about Sex, and women today...
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 07:05:32 AM »
To each his own. I personally have tried both.. single, dating several women in a shallow relationship that revolved around sex, and being in a committed relationship. For me, I am much happier in the committed relationship. I know other guys who prefer the other so my conclusion is not everyone is cut out for marriage or a long term relationship, some are not cut out for being single... and others who may be cut out for long term relationships, just keep meeting the wrong women.....

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« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2010, 07:07:27 AM »
To each his own. I personally have tried both.. single, dating several women in a shallow relationship that revolved around sex, and being in a committed relationship. For me, I am much happier in the committed relationship. I know other guys who prefer the other so my conclusion is not everyone is cut out for marriage or a long term relationship, some are not cut out for being single... and others who may be cut out for long term relationships, just keep meeting the wrong women.....
What brought about the attraction, first---mutual sexual attraction?

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« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2010, 07:12:52 AM »
Oh, if we are talking about the attractions between male and female, certainly physical attraction is an important part, likely overwhelmingly the initial reason.. however I gathered from reading his post that he was saying all women are good for is sex and everything else is a drain on him.. Stepping out of my get big persona for a second, I was just saying how I don't find that to be true in my case and likely not all cases, and maybe...maybe it's just him   

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« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2010, 07:26:07 AM »
Oh, if we are talking about the attractions between male and female, certainly physical attraction is an important part, likely overwhelmingly the initial reason.. however I gathered from reading his post that he was saying all women are good for is sex and everything else is a drain on him.. Stepping out of my get big persona for a second, I was just saying how I don't find that to be true in my case and likely not all cases, and maybe...maybe it's just him   
I got ya, but he was talking about the article, basically I man shouldn't say that he is "frugal", basically it means to women, that he won't spend money on her...and all this damn research that goes with it. Bascially, its a catch 22, if you spend a lot of money, either women look at you like you can provide for them, yet the man will only be seen for what he has. If a man is frugal, she sees him as cheap, or a man who is smart about his money...

i used to be a big spender, but now I've wisened up...a man who spends a lot cash for ass, tends to be a broke ass iin the end...

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« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2010, 08:37:03 AM »
I think this is a load of BS. My opinion on the matter is simple: the guys who let women treat them badly, spend money on them regardless of ones financial situation and basically put up with a rude selfish materialistic woman is a beta male. Any guy who lets a women emasculate them to this degree are most likely beta males who generally don't have the confidence, charisma and desirability to turn this around.

I have found in my own experience women can be easily manipulated as long as you are smart, you can either treat your woman like a princess or you let them know what you expect of them. I actually enjoy spending time with my girl because we share many similar interests. And no it was not just sexual attraction, it was a whole host of things that made me attracted to her such as: non-materialistic, educated, driven, confident and most importantly good values and morals in life so i know she will be  reliable girl who will not give me so many problems.

I really feel sorry for some of my friends who allow their girl to control them and use their pussy as a bargaining chip.

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« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2010, 08:43:47 AM »
I think this is a load of BS. My opinion on the matter is simple: the guys who let women treat them badly, spend money on them regardless of ones financial situation and basically put up with a rude selfish materialistic woman is a beta male. Any guy who lets a women emasculate them to this degree are most likely beta males who generally don't have the confidence, charisma and desirability to turn this around.

I have found in my own experience women can be easily manipulated as long as you are smart, you can either treat your woman like a princess or you let them know what you expect of them. I actually enjoy spending time with my girl because we share many similar interests. And no it was not just sexual attraction, it was a whole host of things that made me attracted to her such as: non-materialistic, educated, driven, confident and most importantly good values and morals in life so i know she will be  reliable girl who will not give me so many problems.

I really feel sorry for some of my friends who allow their girl to control them and use their pussy as a bargaining chip.
Dead on.  At least according to my personal expierence.  Which is a lot different compared to many guys I know.

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« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2010, 08:43:47 AM »
I think this is a load of BS. My opinion on the matter is simple: the guys who let women treat them badly, spend money on them regardless of ones financial situation and basically put up with a rude selfish materialistic woman is a beta male. Any guy who lets a women emasculate them to this degree are most likely beta males who generally don't have the confidence, charisma and desirability to turn this around.

I have found in my own experience women can be easily manipulated as long as you are smart, you can either treat your woman like a princess or you let them know what you expect of them. I actually enjoy spending time with my girl because we share many similar interests. And no it was not just sexual attraction, it was a whole host of things that made me attracted to her such as: non-materialistic, educated, driven, confident and most importantly good values and morals in life so i know she will be  reliable girl who will not give me so many problems.I really feel sorry for some of my friends who allow their girl to control them and use their pussy as a bargaining chip.
This can and is very true...Bascially its a host of many different things...odd how we remember the all around girl far more than the "sex" girl.

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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2010, 08:54:20 AM »
This can and is very true...Bascially its a host of many different things...odd how we remember the all around girl far more than the "sex" girl.

The girls who were purely sexual attraction was simply that - these were girls i knew i had no real long term relationship with (so even though they were fun i always knew i needed more). In my mind it has always been simple, have your fun when you are young but always be on the look out for the all around girl.

However, to get the all around girl you have to put in the work e.g. be educated, confident and set goals in life. The top women admire ambition and confidence and mostly a man with a stable mind.

I have never dated a girl long term if i knew she was greedy and selfish, i look to my parents age as role model - its unfortunate that so many in society don't have the role models i did.

On a side-note it would be interesting to note that my long term girlfriend right now is Indian Punjabi girl (British born) - loyal as the day is long, kind and caring but strong enough to keep you on your feet.


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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2010, 09:10:42 AM »
My current wife ( yes I am divorced) is my lover AND best friend in the world.
Sure, I admit it all started with me wanting to bang her many years ago. :P
She is a board cert psychologist and I am a physics teacher.It is a pretty good match and we both enjoy our careers.
She was doing DB stiff legged deadlifts in tight blue shorts in my gym, when we first met...but I digress.

Back in my high school and college days , I didn't have much spending $$$.
I drove a beater mobile and dressed in an avg manner. The typical "gold digger" wasn't going home with me, no matter how ripped or studly I looked. Thus, I never developed a "quid pro quo" attitude in regards to MY favors for HER pussy.

In my relationships with woman, sex, $$, jobs, etc were an EQUAL deal, we both shared.
If a woman doesn't have an independent mind and career goals, I  will have little LONG term  interest in her.

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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2010, 10:36:42 AM »
First of all marriage only benefits women.If you talk to any man who is married he will tell you as soon as you get married your sex life cuts in half or even a quarter of what it was.
Men are hunters once a man is married he can no longer hunt.
Plus 90% of women want a challenge, once you marry them the challenge is gone for them.
Have you ever noticed the more you ignore a girl the mre they want you.IF you chae a girl and kiss her ass they want nothing to do with you.
The best thing a man could do is stay with a girl, but dnt get married, Gene simmonss did it.
Gene simmons has banged 5000 women , he knows the drill.By not marrying Shannon he has her under his thumb.Trust me guys on this ask any guy who is married, once you get married, women cut back the sex and try to control.Women thinks its there job to "fix" you, and change you to be the way they want you.
This is the deal, the guy wants the girl to be the same she was when they met, sweet, and sex everyday.
The girl wants to change the guy the way she wants him to be.So n one is usually happy.
Women mislead men by giving them sex and being sweet for the first 3 months, to get them wooped.
Thats the hney mom period.After the 4th months most guys wonder, what happened to the sweet girl who gave me sex all the time.Wh is this nagging bitch, who always complains abut everything I do?
The bottom line is marriage was good, in the 50's ,60's and 70's, but now women feel entitled.They are n longer submisive.Women used to think it was there duty t please there man in bed.Now women use sex as a weapon, and will even punish you when you piss them off.
I had a friend of mine who was married 16 years, he several kids.His wife would cut him off sexually when he did something to upset her.So after being cut off for 3 weeks, he was looking a porn
.She got realy mad, calling him a pervert and a cheat.
 Married women hate when you look at porn, its part of the control thing.Anyways, he leaves get a hot gf her and has never been happier.Married women are crazy, they wont give you sex, but if you look at porn, your a bad husband.Thats like telling a starving man not to eat.
I dont watch internet porn, but 90% of my married friends do.
I was looking at recent statistics of married couples,and sex.It was like 10% have sex 2 times a week,15% once a week,30% every 2 weeks,20% once a months,15% and 10 % once a year.This was a recent study.
only 10% of men get sex 2 times per week, and 10% of ment get sex once a year.Thats sickening.
If I didnt know married men, I wouldnt beleive it.But frm what I am tld its pretty accurate
Women want contrl, and when you marry then, you give them that control.Why do you think 75% of married people cheat.?Because men are tired f being rejected.Every man I know who has cheated was one of those guys, who rarely got sex.I am against  totally cheating, but I think rejecting a man is just as painful.The bottom line is, when you say I do, most women say, I dont !!! ad but true

And whos fault is it for letting this happen to them? The man. They dont have to change, the man can set the rules in marriage, and if the woman doesnt like it, fuck her she can leave. Clearly you havent figured this out yet. You can still have the same relationship after youre married as you do before, you just have to lay it down.. its no ones fault but the mans if he lets her take over. It means he just got lazy after getting married.

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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2010, 10:41:15 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2010, 10:43:44 AM »
Great thread...I actually used to tell my friends in order to know if you love a woman, jerk off and then in the immediate moments after you have climaxed you can say you still love her or are in love with her, then you love her.  Never make decisions with a loaded gun.  Jerk off first then re-think.  It's gotten me out of alot of trouble.

I disagree with the guy about love though.  I love my wife and enjoy her company and intend on spending the rest of my days with her.  Because we have no children after being together so long we can get really stingy with our shit but we always keep each other in check and things work out great.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2010, 10:50:23 AM »
And whos fault is it for letting this happen to them? The man. They dont have to change, the man can set the rules in marriage, and if the woman doesnt like it, fuck her she can leave. Clearly you havent figured this out yet. You can still have the same relationship after youre married as you do before, you just have to lay it down.. its no ones fault but the mans if he lets her take over. It means he just got lazy after getting married.

Are you married?
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2010, 10:51:56 AM »
nowadays men can work, have their hobbies, be fathers and have their friends, and women can work, have their hobbies, friends, and be mothers. Based on this, we re now equals in occident.


BUT.

Men are still men with their own specifities, and women are still women with their own specificities. There is no point transforming men into women or women into men, nobody s going to end happy .

As long as a woman access all these new liberties men used to have, there is no problem, it's when they think they can be men, when they think they can obtain more and more and more. When they have the wish to dominate men with a desire of vengeance, like when men were dominating women. These women are dangerous and if you let em gain ground they ll take it, as do muslim extremists for example.
The problem is when men think they can be women (mostly because of an absent father, the mother transformed the boy into a woman with a penis).

There is no hapiness to be found trying to be what you arent.

The more women get power, the more the society becomes superficial and dumbed down. The more fathers are killed. The more occidental societies produce unhealthy individuals wether they re girls or boys.

One advice to modern women; dont go too far and be content with what you got.

SOme women still know the importance of being women and loving a man for what he is. The problem is with these numerous women raised by single moms who brainwashed em into hating men and wanting to dominate them after they repulsed the father.
They re never, ever, going to be able to build s stable, solid relationship with a man or raise kids with him with such extremistics beliefs, and i pity the man who would fall for them. Without a doubt he ll leave one day and we ll again end with kids without stable, healthy parents, becoming themselves a burden for the whole society.

Boys and girls nowadays need a strong come back of the father figure who represents work, autority, respect and boundaries. Balanced behaviors and thoughts.

Occidental boys and girls need it so bad they re more and more interested into finding this father figure, an opportunity to build a strong stable family too, into the immigrants coming from the third world at the same time, and who still have these values. We destroyed our own values just for our kids to try to find em again in the immigrant. Somehow, it works hand in hand with the processus of globalization. Some things that make you think twice about the whole stuff.

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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2010, 10:55:47 AM »
Are you married?
Engaged.
I know. Well see if I can practice what I preach. But I have seen it done from some of my friends, so we will see.

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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2010, 10:59:16 AM »
nowadays men can work, have their hobbies, be fathers and have their friends, and women can work, have their hobbies, friends, and be mothers. Based on this, we re now equals in occident.


BUT.

Men are still men with their own specifities, and women are still women with their own specificities. There is no point transforming men into women or women into men, nobody s going to end happy .

As long as a woman access all these new liberties men used to have, there is no problem, it's when they think they can be men, when they think they can obtain more and more and more. When they have the wish to dominate men with a desire of vengeance, like when men were dominating women. These women are dangerous and if you let em gain ground they ll take it, as do muslim extremists for example.
The problem is when men think they can be women (mostly because of an absent father, the mother transformed the boy into a woman with a penis).

There is no hapiness to be found trying to be what you arent.

The more women get power, the more the society becomes superficial and dumbed down. The more fathers are killed. The more occidental societies produce unhealthy individuals wether they re girls or boys.

One advice to modern women; dont go too far and be content with what you got.

SOme women still know the importance of being women and loving a man for what he is. The problem is with these numerous women raised by single moms who brainwashed em into hating men and wanting to dominate them after they repulsed the father.

Boys and girls nowadays need a strong come back of the father figure who represents work, autority, respect and boundaries. Balanced behaviors and thoughts.

Occidental boys and girls need it so bad they re more and more interested into finding this father figure, an opportunity to build a strong stable family too, into the immigrants coming from the third world at the same time, and who still have these values. We destroyed our own values just for our kids to try to find em again in the immigrant. Somehow, it works hand in hand with the processus of globalization. Some things that make you think twice about the whole stuff.
I know we got into it over me posting pics of my fiance but I totally agree with you on everything you wrote here.
This is the main reason I asked my fiance to marry me... Because she understands the value of being the woman in the relationship and has no desire to be the head of the household. She simply wants to be the wife and be the mother of our children. IMHO it is a hard traight to find in women nowadays.

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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2010, 11:03:06 AM »
truth:

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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2010, 11:08:51 AM »

DUDE!

you wont believe this but when i read the title of your thread i was thinking of this track before i even opened it.

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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2010, 11:19:13 AM »
Like anything, love/sex is a battle/game.
The more men give in the more women will dominate and vice versa.
Too many weak people out there letting themselves get dominated and abused.
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2010, 11:39:38 AM »
And whos fault is it for letting this happen to them? The man. They dont have to change, the man can set the rules in marriage, and if the woman doesnt like it, fuck her she can leave. Clearly you havent figured this out yet. You can still have the same relationship after youre married as you do before, you just have to lay it down.. its no ones fault but the mans if he lets her take over. It means he just got lazy after getting married.

THIS!

to be honest...this isn't even an option guys.....you have to lead the marriage. Do this properly and you'll be amazed at how your wife treats you like royalty.

 




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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2010, 01:08:37 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2010, 01:10:31 PM »

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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2010, 01:31:52 PM »
Don't let yourself be controlled...seen so many desperate pathetic men that will do anything for their woman even when she treats them like shit. Don't be the beta >:(

No sex for months? ...dump and get another girl

Think of it like this.
You are hungry and need to eat. refridgerator empty, solution: go to supermarket or restaurant. If you can't get food at home, you get it from somewhere else.
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2010, 01:50:48 PM »
Don't let yourself be controlled...seen so many desperate pathetic men that will do anything for their woman even when she treats them like shit. Don't be the beta >:(

No sex for months? ...dump and get another girl

Think of it like this.
You are hungry and need to eat. refridgerator empty, solution: go to supermarket or restaurant. If you can't get food at home, you get it from somewhere else.
Exactly.
Lay it down.
Look honey, I love you, but I have needs just like you do, and sex is part of them. If you try and cut me off, Im going to have to get those needs met, and you wont have anyone to blame but yourself.
Shuts em up instantly.