Why does Dana White want to destroy boxing so much?

[spinnis]

I haven't wrestled so I couldn't tell but boxing just washes you up. See, the problem is that there might "grappling Gods" (and i do recpect a few guys Like Fedor of course) but those sports don't tend to attract top athletes.

lol, grappling gods and you mention fedor? there are a shitload of grappling "gods" that Only competes in just that, Grappling, Sub wrestling, or BJJ and not in mma.. And they are Amazingly talented. with 15-20 + years of training 5-6 hours each day...

Its like saying coleman its an amazing bodybuilder because they big money somewhere else. And it also has to do with how you define athlete. Is a top nfl player a better athlete then a BJJ blackbelt? maby, doesn't change the fact that he would get KILLED on the ground though, so let him be a "better athlete then" ?

why are you so obsessed with tbe wotd athlete? lol.



If you enjoy grappling this fight is AMAZING

for someone that dpoesnt like it/understand it, its just "2 guys hugging"

In boxing you dont have to Know alot about the sport to see that someones really really good..

[MORTALCOIL]

lol, grappling gods and you mention fedor? there are a shitload of grappling "gods" that Only competes in just that, Grappling, Sub wrestling, or BJJ and not in mma.. And they are Amazingly talented. with 15-20 + years of training 5-6 hours each day...

Its like saying coleman its an amazing bodybuilder because they big money somewhere else. And it also has to do with how you define athlete. Is a top nfl player a better athlete then a BJJ blackbelt? maby, doesn't change the fact that he would get KILLED on the ground though, so let him be a "better athlete then" ?

why are you so obsessed with tbe wotd athlete? lol.



If you enjoy grappling this fight is AMAZING

for someone that dpoesnt like it/understand it, its just "2 guys hugging"

In boxing you dont have to Know alot about the sport to see that someones really really good..

Because the thing I'm mainly interested in is the athletic performance whatever the sport is. I don't care if this guy can kill that guy or whatever. I watch sport more than I do watch Bbing (which I think is not a sport though fun). That's why I've never watched an entire Bb show but I'll watch weightlifting and tracks at the Olympic.

[spinnis]

Because the thing I'm mainly interested in is the athletic performance whatever the sport is. I don't care if this guy can kill that guy or whatever. I watch sport more than I do watch Bbing (which I think is not a sport though fun). That's why I've never watched an entire Bb show but I'll watch weightlifting and tracks at the Olympic.

then ali is no more of an athlete then multiple grappling champs =) just different taste =)

and mma is about being the best Fighter, not the best Athlete or whatever so I dont understand your point,

Gsp is an Amazing athlete though. What hes doing to top level wrestlers is like if kimbo beat the one of the klitcho bro's tomorrow lol.

I would say any good ufc fighter is a shitload more of an athlete then any boxer, due to the massive advantage in cardio etc etc, its all about how you define the word =)

[MORTALCOIL]

then ali is no more of an athlete then multiple grappling champs =) just different taste =)

and mma is about being the best Fighter, not the best Athlete or whatever so I dont understand your point,

Gsp is an Amazing athlete though. What hes doing to top level wrestlers is like if kimbo beat the one of the klitcho bro's tomorrow lol.

Sure of that, bro? The young Ali had incredible skills for a guy his height and weight. Also enough guts and resistance to go through a fight like his third against frazier which is a fight known as being incredibly demanding and brutal. I'm just saying that if the best talents were drawn to the UFC (which they will if they continue this way), the reigning champs would be shit compared to them. I know you love Lesnar but damn, the guy was in the WWE (or whatever entertainmeent bullshit  American wrestling thing it is).

[spinnis]

I know you love Lesnar but damn, the guy was in the WWE (or whatever entertainmeent bullshit  American wrestling thing it is).

yeah hes only that and yes no athletes there either, Im done, its impossible to have a serious discussion at getbig, dont know why I try,

when you have Any clue about mma or brock lesnar lets try again. I got the feeling you actually had a Clue, but no

[crownshep]

The original UFC tournament was to find the dominant "fighting" art,you had karate,BJJ,judo.taekwondo,boxing etc and boxing is the one fighting art that has mainly been the least dominant.Thats why boxers try to make fun of the UFC,they know they would lose in a real fight.

[vic86]

Its so surprising that MMA fans claim Fedor can kill prime Mike tyson .Considering the fact that  anyone of Tysons skills and abilities would turn any MMA fighter into a vegetable .I dont think any fighter of MMA beats 85-88 version of MT. FACT

[Cleanest Natural]

Its so surprising that MMA fans claim Fedor can kill prime Mike tyson .Considering the fact that  anyone of Tysons skills and abilities would turn any MMA fighter into a vegetable .I dont think any fighter of MMA beats 85-88 version of MT. FACT

lol

prime tyson would murder any of these "athletes"

[vic86]

[ChristopherA]

lol

prime tyson would murder any of these "athletes"

See the documentary "Tyson" that Mike narrates. Prime Mike is the baddest motha to ever walk this planet.

[tbombz]

mike tyson was fun to watch. kimbo, before he got in the ufc, was fun to watch (on youtube at least).

fighters need to have a killer instinct. in that "ultimate grappling" video swede posted above the one guy has a perfect chance to snap the other guysd ankle, but he lets go of it. these guys dont want to actually hurt eachother. if your fighting, you need to break that fuckers skull and let his brains seep onto the floor. otherwise your just fucking around.

[che]

I would say any good ufc fighter is a shitload more of an athlete then any boxer, due to the massive advantage in cardio etc etc,

hahaa

[Cleanest Natural]

hahaa

[noworries]

can u imagine the damage if mike wore mma gloves and hit you

[Cleanest Natural]

can u imagine the damage if mike wore mma gloves and hit you

[spinnis]

mike tyson was fun to watch. kimbo, before he got in the ufc, was fun to watch (on youtube at least).

fighters need to have a killer instinct. in that "ultimate grappling" video swede posted above the one guy has a perfect chance to snap the other guysd ankle, but he lets go of it. these guys dont want to actually hurt eachother. if your fighting, you need to break that fuckers skull and let his brains seep onto the floor. otherwise your just fucking around.

lol, you seriously have NO CLUE do you? any "normal" persons arm/angle/leg would have snapped 10 times over in that vid. They endured an INSANE ammount of pain, and they tried to break each others limbs as hard as they could. And moved on when realising they couldn't.

god damnit your stupidity is shocking sometimes..

[Nails]

Bobby lashley disappointed me, i would have thought a wrestler would have had more guts

 

[James Blunt]

Why do people make Dana White threads? Idiots.

[LatsMcGee]

Boxing - an Olympic Sport.
MMA - not an Olympic Sport.

Boxing - Million dollar purses.
MMA - Not there yet.

This arguement of boxing vs. MMA needs to wait another 20 years or so before it's really worth arguing about.  Boxing has supposedly been dead for a 100 years now yet Manny and Floyd are still making record paydays.  Once MMA fighters starting making 50 mill for a fight than this arguement will be relevant.

I like both sports.  

[che]

Boxing - an Olympic Sport.
MMA - not an Olympic Sport.

Boxing - Million dollar purses.
MMA - Not there yet.

This arguement of boxing vs. MMA needs to wait another 20 years or so before it's really worth arguing about.  Boxing has supposedly been dead for a 100 years now yet Manny and Floyd are still making record paydays.  Once MMA fighters starting making 50 mill for a fight than this arguement will be relevant.

I like both sports.  

Why argue   they're two differents sports

[SgtSpar]

I like both sports and I actually train in both.  I can tell you without any doubt whatsoever that grappling takes a much greater toll on your cardio and muscular systems than boxing.  I have seen people puke from 2 minutes of hard grappling more times than I can count.  Its a totally different type of conditioning that exhausts your entire body.  To say that UFC doesn't have many great athletes and that its mostly just white trash amateurs is beyond absurd.  There was a great show on a while back that showed Couture's conditioning levels compared to a normal person and the difference was absurd.  I can't stand Lesnar but the man is one of the most formidable athletes I have ever seen.  Tyson in his prime would have a very small window of opportunity to knock out an MMA fighter before he was taken to the ground.  After that, he would be entirely at the mercy of the grappler.  Even the best boxers in the world have been frustrated time and again by another boxer far below their own level that stayed out of range and then immediately clinched when the range was broken.  MMA doesn't have a ref to separate you from the clinch and let you have another chance at punching.  You get elbowed, kneed, and taken down once you are clinched.  What is a boxer going to do against someone like Kerr that could shoot from 10 feet out and get the take down so fast that even another world class wrestler couldn't sprawl in time?  This argument is silly.   

[SgtSpar]

BTW, Dana White doesn't want to kill boxing.  He wants to make money and that is ALL he cares about.

[che]

I like both sports and I actually train in both.  I can tell you without any doubt whatsoever that grappling takes a much greater toll on your cardio and muscular systems than boxing.  I have seen people puke from 2 minutes of hard grappling more times than I can count.  Its a totally different type of conditioning that exhausts your entire body.  To say that UFC doesn't have many great athletes and that its mostly just white trash amateurs is beyond absurd.  There was a great show on a while back that showed Couture's conditioning levels compared to a normal person and the difference was absurd.  I can't stand Lesnar but the man is one of the most formidable athletes I have ever seen.  Tyson in his prime would have a very small window of opportunity to knock out an MMA fighter before he was taken to the ground.  After that, he would be entirely at the mercy of the grappler.  Even the best boxers in the world have been frustrated time and again by another boxer far below their own level that stayed out of range and then immediately clinched when the range was broken.  MMA doesn't have a ref to separate you from the clinch and let you have another chance at punching.  You get elbowed, kneed, and taken down once you are clinched.  What is a boxer going to do against someone like Kerr that could shoot from 10 feet out and get the take down so fast that even another world class wrestler couldn't sprawl in time?  This argument is silly.   

Totally different kind of endurance , I see it everyday we have  MMA guys (wrestling ,jujitsu ....)coming to our gym  to learn some boxing and many of them gas after sparring two rounds

[pellius]

He puts it down at every oppurtunity now hes calling Randy C V Toney as MMA V boxing, etc.
Why is he so hateful of boxing, a sport thats been around for 150 years and has such tradition and history.Boxing may be dead but MMA will NEVER match its peak popularity, not even close.

STFU already about this boxing vs. MMA argument. It's boxing that's always comparing themselves to MMA. You're a perfect example. Most MMA guys don't even think about boxing as a sport except when it comes to personalities like PacMan and Tyson. Boxing is just one of the disciplines that they have to train in to succeed. It's boxer that are trying to get into MMA.

Again, take two boxing clones. Two identical Mike Tysons. Then wave a magic wand and Mike Tyson #2 now has the added skills of Muy Thai, a Black Belt in Jiu-Jitsu and D1 wrestling. Toss them both in the street shirtless and have them go at it. Who wins?

[HTexan]

Yeah, boxers move to mma when they can't hang as boxers. Think about it.