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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2010, 09:40:22 AM »
Rand Paul is a fucking sell out country club neocon.  I'm sure his father is sorely disappointed in his son. 

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2010, 09:49:32 AM »
Rand Paul is a fucking sell out country club neocon.  I'm sure his father is sorely disappointed in his son. 

Why?    I think the idea of a mosque at GZ is disgusting and I hope it is vandalized, blown up, and the ashes pissed on.  But that does not mean I want tot he GOVT to halt it. 

These vermin have the right to build it, but don't be surprised when construction workers mix pigs blood in the cement, strike, protest, build it with flaws ensuring its rapid decay and collapse, etc. 

And if this disgusting mess spawns a McVeigh to blow it up, so be it.     

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2010, 09:53:00 AM »
wow do you read what you write.thats some fuck up shit :o

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2010, 09:57:28 AM »
wow do you read what you write.thats some fuck up shit :o

Not really, actions have consequences.  If the families of some dead soldier who the Westboro crew protested the funeral whacked em and hung them from a bridge I would applaud and probably contribute to their legal defense. 

You don't piss and shit on peoples' graves like this.  Period.

   

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2010, 10:02:21 AM »
Not really, actions have consequences.  If the families of some dead soldier who the Westboro crew protested the funeral whacked em and hung them from a bridge I would applaud and probably contribute to their legal defense. 

You don't piss and shit on peoples' graves like this.  Period.

   

So you support the right of the Mosque to be built but encourage people who disagree with it to blow it up?

I'm not sure I'm understanding you at this point... do you advocate freedom of/from religion?

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2010, 10:04:03 AM »
So you support the right of the Mosque to be built but encourage people who disagree with it to blow it up?

I'm not sure I'm understanding you at this point... do you advocate freedom of/from religion?

Where in the Constitution does it say that anyone can build any house of worship anywhere and anytime they feel like it?

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #7 on: August 24, 2010, 10:06:23 AM »
So you support the right of the Mosque to be built but encourage people who disagree with it to blow it up?

I'm not sure I'm understanding you at this point... do you advocate freedom of/from religion?

No, i don't advocate it, but will not be surprised when and if it happens.    And if it does happen, I won't be upset one bit. 

And by the way, will you guys make up your minds? ? ?  ?  Is it a mosque or a cultural center?   

   

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2010, 10:13:32 AM »
It's a combination

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2010, 12:36:50 PM »
Where in the Constitution does it say that anyone can build any house of worship anywhere and anytime they feel like it?

zoning can discriminate based on some factors, but not religion
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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2010, 12:43:16 PM »
zoning can discriminate based on some factors, but not religion

Its not incosistent to say that they have a right to build there and also feel utterly disgusted at the project at the same time. 

I love how the far left now bashes people exercising their rights to protest this thing when 70% of the people are utterly opposed to this disgusting outrage. 

The Imama is going to win at best a pyrich victory if he pursues this.  There will be endless protests, vanadalism, violence, controversy etc if this pofs imam, piss be upon him, pursues this and insists on spitting on the graves of the dead.   

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2010, 12:47:34 PM »
yea yea yea, just build the building so i can go for a swim ;D

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2010, 12:49:26 PM »
yea yea yea, just build the building so i can go for a swim ;D

Good, throw on a burgha because most likely they will have to be sharia compliant. 

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2010, 01:51:06 PM »
Its not incosistent to say that they have a right to build there and also feel utterly disgusted at the project at the same time. 

I love how the far left now bashes people exercising their rights to protest this thing when 70% of the people are utterly opposed to this disgusting outrage. 

The Imama is going to win at best a pyrich victory if he pursues this.  There will be endless protests, vanadalism, violence, controversy etc if this pofs imam, piss be upon him, pursues this and insists on spitting on the graves of the dead.   

i dont like the idea of them putting there place where there people attacked.  but i also think we should stand by american ideals of freedom
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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2010, 01:59:39 PM »
Its not incosistent to say that they have a right to build there and also feel utterly disgusted at the project at the same time. 

I love how the far left now bashes people exercising their rights to protest this thing when 70% of the people are utterly opposed to this disgusting outrage. 

The Imama is going to win at best a pyrich victory if he pursues this.  There will be endless protests, vanadalism, violence, controversy etc if this pofs imam, piss be upon him, pursues this and insists on spitting on the graves of the dead.   

Yeah, we have 70% opposed to this crap and Liberals running around acting like its no big deal yet we got slime balls like Gavan Newsome making San Francisco a sanctuary city for illegals. fucking BS.


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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2010, 02:03:12 PM »
It's also an American ideal to protest, obstruct and harass the shit out of people, places and things we disagree with. The politicians who support this abomination are also going to experience the American ideal of unemployment and plumetting public support. The terrorist imam and his camel *unt of a wife are about to get a taste of what it's like to experience the good old American tradition of retribution.

This Mosque is, by design, a slap in the face to America and a victory trophy for the diseased death cult known as Islam. It is plainly obvious to anyone with an IQ above a snail. The purpose of this Mosque is so thinly veiled its practically transparent. "Interfaith Understanding" is just a mere precursor to dupe braindead liberals and individuals with scant intelligence into generating support for the errection of a 14-story middle finger to the Western world in the shadow of ground zero.

The term "Useful Idiots" has never been more appropriate.

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2010, 02:52:56 PM »
It's also an American ideal to protest, obstruct and harass the shit out of people, places and things we disagree with. The politicians who support this abomination are also going to experience the American ideal of unemployment and plumetting public support. The terrorist imam and his camel *unt of a wife are about to get a taste of what it's like to experience the good old American tradition of retribution.

This Mosque is, by design, a slap in the face to America and a victory trophy for the diseased death cult known as Islam. It is plainly obvious to anyone with an IQ above a snail. The purpose of this Mosque is so thinly veiled its practically transparent. "Interfaith Understanding" is just a mere precursor to dupe braindead liberals and individuals with scant intelligence into generating support for the errection of a 14-story middle finger to the Western world in the shadow of ground zero.

The term "Useful Idiots" has never been more appropriate.

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2010, 03:02:52 PM »
Good, throw on a burgha because most likely they will have to be sharia compliant. 



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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2010, 03:16:13 PM »
It's painfully obvious none of you watched that clip from beginning to end because Ron nailed it on the head and took Gupta/the media to school.

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2010, 03:28:58 PM »
Who cares?  If Ron Paul was here to defend his argument then it might be relevant.  Maybe you can argue his point? 

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2010, 03:35:05 PM »
Why?    I think the idea of a mosque at GZ is disgusting and I hope it is vandalized, blown up, and the ashes pissed on.  But that does not mean I want tot he GOVT to halt it. 

These vermin have the right to build it, but don't be surprised when construction workers mix pigs blood in the cement, strike, protest, build it with flaws ensuring its rapid decay and collapse, etc. 

And if this disgusting mess spawns a McVeigh to blow it up, so be it. 
   


WOW......there's the line between being completely insane and having a little bit common sense left in your judgment. If you don't see a problem with ANY kind of terrorism, left, right, Muslim or Christian, you are as fukked up in the head as they come. And no, it's not an insult. :-\
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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2010, 03:44:21 PM »

WOW......there's the line between being completely insane and having a little bit common sense left in your judgment. If you don't see a problem with ANY kind of terrorism, left, right, Muslim or Christian, you are as fukked up in the head as they come. And no, it's not an insult. :-\


I view pissing on the graves of the dead as likely to provoke a McVeigh type response.  If it happens, I will smile from ear to ear.   I'm not kidding, if someone takes out the Mosque and decides to build a church there 10 years later, so be it. 

 

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2010, 06:19:59 PM »

WOW......there's the line between being completely insane and having a little bit common sense left in your judgment. If you don't see a problem with ANY kind of terrorism, left, right, Muslim or Christian, you are as fukked up in the head as they come. And no, it's not an insult. :-\


Hey retard, can you name a single act of Christian terrorism that has ever been committed in the United States? And before you sadly and almost uncontrollably try to invoke Timothy McVeigh, again-- for the 10000000th time, he did not blow up the Federal building in the name of, in furtherance of, or because of RELIGION. So, before you even mention Timothy McVeigh, I'll save you the trouble-- F A I L .
The fact of the matter is that in the world TODAY ( not 1000 or 2000 years ago, when the crusades [which were a response to MUSLIM agression anyway] and Spanish Inquisition were taking place) ISLAM is pretty much the sole cause, funder, perpatrator and beneficiary of terrorism.

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2010, 06:35:09 PM »
Hey retard, can you name a single act of Christian terrorism that has ever been committed in the United States? And before you sadly and almost uncontrollably try to invoke Timothy McVeigh, again-- for the 10000000th time, he did not blow up the Federal building in the name of, in furtherance of, or because of RELIGION. So, before you even mention Timothy McVeigh, I'll save you the trouble-- F A I L .
The fact of the matter is that in the world TODAY ( not 1000 or 2000 years ago, when the crusades [which were a response to MUSLIM agression anyway] and Spanish Inquisition were taking place) ISLAM is pretty much the sole cause, funder, perpatrator and beneficiary of terrorism.

The Ramadan Bombathon (Islam's holiest month is also it's most violent. I know, shocker, right?  ::)) tally is currently standing at 400-500 dead and 100 or so documented jihadi attacks at day 15. Attacks in the name of all other religions currently stand at 0 with 0 dead. :D

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Re: Ron Paul Breaks With Son Rand on Islamic Center Near Ground Zero
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2010, 07:58:50 PM »
Hey retard, can you name a single act of Christian terrorism that has ever been committed in the United States? And before you sadly and almost uncontrollably try to invoke Timothy McVeigh, again-- for the 10000000th time, he did not blow up the Federal building in the name of, in furtherance of, or because of RELIGION. So, before you even mention Timothy McVeigh, I'll save you the trouble-- F A I L .
The fact of the matter is that in the world TODAY ( not 1000 or 2000 years ago, when the crusades [which were a response to MUSLIM agression anyway] and Spanish Inquisition were taking place) ISLAM is pretty much the sole cause, funder, perpatrator and beneficiary of terrorism.

If that's the way you decide to start a conversation by calling me a retard I could very well return the "favor" by replying let's say...go fuck your mother, but I wont.  ;)

 Here's something you might want to take a look at before making any excuses for Christians not committing any acts of terrorism.

From Wikipedia.
"Beginning in the late nineteenth century, white supremacist Ku Klux Klan members in the Southern United States engaged in arson, beatings, cross burning, destruction of property, lynching, murder, rape, tar-and-feathering, and whipping against African Americans, Jews, Catholics and other social or ethnic minorities.[36]

During the twentieth century, members of extremist groups such as the Army of God began executing attacks against abortion clinics and doctors across the United States.[37][38][39] A number of terrorist attacks, including the Centennial Olympic Park bombing during the 1996 Summer Olympics by Eric Robert Rudolph, were accused of being carried out by individuals and groups with ties to the Christian Identity and Christian Patriot movements; including the Lambs of Christ.[40]:105–120[41] A group called Concerned Christians were deported from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in Jerusalem at the end of 1999, believing that their deaths would "lead them to heaven."[43][44] The motive for anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdering Wichita doctor George Tiller on May 31, 2009 was religious.[45]

Hutaree was a Christian militia group based in Adrian, Michigan. In 2010, after an FBI agent infiltrated the group, nine of its members were indicted by a federal grand jury in Detroit on charges of seditious conspiracy to use of improvised explosive devices, teaching the use of explosive materials, and possessing a firearm during a crime of violence.[46"

My point is that terrorism is NOT acceptable in the name of any religion or any cause, 338 however seems to think he would have no problem with the potential mosque/ center site being blown to bits in the future. I would be curious to see what his position would be on this matter in the scenario involving  40 -50 muslim AMERICANS killed in the process. ???
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