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« on: September 02, 2010, 02:54:20 PM »

First off, I know nothing about photography.

Someone recommended the Canon EOS 5D Mark II but another person said that the Canon Rebel T2i would be fine.  Huh

Any help?
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2010, 02:57:05 PM »

First off, I know nothing about photography.

Someone recommended the Canon EOS 5D Mark II but another person said that the Canon Rebel T2i would be fine.  Huh

Any help?

I'd go with the Schmoetastic 5.0....buts that just me.
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2010, 02:57:25 PM »

First off, I know nothing about photography.

Someone recommended the Canon EOS 5D Mark II but another person said that the Canon Rebel T2i would be fine.  Huh

Any help?

Get this you wont be disappointed.

Hasselblad H3DII-39 Digital SLR
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2010, 06:28:46 PM »

cam noobs don't need a SLR. Unless you want a new hobby.

PowerShot S95 would be fine.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/729876-REG/Canon_4343B001_PowerShot_S95_Digital_Camera.html
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2010, 07:43:35 PM »

I'd go with the Schmoetastic 5.0....buts that just me.

This is the brand that Ron and Isaac use?


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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2010, 08:14:59 PM »

First off, I know nothing about photography.

Someone recommended the Canon EOS 5D Mark II but another person said that the Canon Rebel T2i would be fine.  Huh

Any help?

Outed!  Grin
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2010, 08:18:22 PM »

First off, I know nothing about photography.

Someone recommended the Canon EOS 5D Mark II but another person said that the Canon Rebel T2i would be fine.  Huh

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Not me, contact Vince Basille and use the funeral setting for the lens.
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2010, 08:35:19 PM »

First off, I know nothing about photography.

Someone recommended the Canon EOS 5D Mark II but another person said that the Canon Rebel T2i would be fine.  Huh

Any help?
go to costco and get the eos t2i or similar kit. 800 bucks or so and you will be taking great pics.

the 5d is samn good if you want to spend that. or 7 grand for the 1d Grin
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2010, 09:45:51 PM »

Matt I have the Canon EOS 5D Mark II and it takes great product photos! I just need to learn how to use it now!
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2010, 09:59:52 PM »

I'd go with the Schmoetastic 5.0....buts that just me.


yeah with the glute-lust HD upgrade...........


pretty much everyone in the olympia "press pit" will have one by their side
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2010, 10:27:38 PM »

Depends what you are shooting for - if you are shooting for yourself, any camera that is small and takes great pictures would do. If you need some pics for a magazine, then you can start using a more expensive DSL.

I use a Canon 40D alot, but either buying the Canon 7D this weekend, or Canon 60D in two weeks or so.   Isaac has a variety of cameras, but I think he also uses the Canon EOS 5D Mark II.   However, the lense does matter, depending on what you shoot.  Those lenses can cost as much as the camera does sometimes.

Price on these vary greatly -  a Caon EOS 5D Mark II can cost about $2,200, while a 7D can cost about $1,600, as a 60D will cost $1,100.

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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2010, 10:58:10 PM »


yeah with the glute-lust HD upgrade...........


pretty much everyone in the olympia "press pit" will have one by their side

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« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2010, 01:21:43 AM »

Matt I have the Canon EOS 5D Mark II and it takes great product photos! I just need to learn how to use it now!

My friend has a two year diploma in Film Production and is also very passionate about photography and that is the camera he chose.  I tend to trust him as I do not know anyone else personally who knows cameras as well as he does.  The only problem I see with the Mark II is that it would be too complicated for someone like myself who is not intent on becoming a photography expert any time soon.  The way I see it, it is akin to driving a standard transmission vehicle.  It requires more user intervention, but if you are  capable of it, it will be better than the alternative [i.e., automatic transmission].  But that's the thing, I'm not willing/able to learn the camera as well as a pro.

I have heard very good things about the Canon Rebel T2i and basically my use for it includes pictures and videos inside the expo halls and of contests.  I also may use it to film some of my gym workouts.  Here is a test I saw on YouTube:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6eKV9nu2Ao" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6eKV9nu2Ao</a>

I'm not sure how good the sound quality is, but so far it would seem that this camera does what I need it to do.  And price really isn't the issue, but I would only want to buy a more expensive camera if I was able to put it to good use.

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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2010, 05:59:48 PM »

I needed to bring a cameraman with me and paid for his flight and accommodations and today he canceled.  I almost don't think it is worth going anymore.

But this one of the basic reasons why capitalism works and socialism does not: People are a lot more careful with their own money than with the money of other people.
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« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2010, 06:16:49 PM »

With a professional camera how many gigapixels of resolution can it give, or is it even ever announced?
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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2010, 06:18:29 PM »

I needed to bring a cameraman with me and paid for his flight and accommodations and today he canceled.  I almost don't think it is worth going anymore.

But this one of the basic reasons why capitalism works and socialism does not: People are a lot more careful with their own money than with the money of other people.

Where does capitalism work? Please tell me. And remember that USA is a mixed economy.
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2010, 09:08:44 PM »

With a professional camera how many gigapixels of resolution can it give, or is it even ever announced?

I can't speak for all cameras, but I purchased the Canon Rebel T2i:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kko-V3d8eI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kko-V3d8eI</a>

Where does capitalism work? Please tell me. And remember that USA is a mixed economy.

By capitalism, I mean the system which protects private property, individual liberty, and economic freedom.  The government's only role in such a system is essentially that of a watchdog to ensure that the elements above are protected.  Things like welfare or bailing out businesses are not appropriate uses of government.  We need not look far to see that the most successful economies in the world are those which have followed these basic principles.  The USA is a mixed economy and at times regulation does work, but for the most part I am still convinced that capitalism as I described it [and not Michael Moore's strawman definition of it] is the best system.  If you look at the particular areas of an economy that are strong, you will typically find the most elements of capitalism.  A great article:

http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/culture/arts/movies/5652-Michael-Moores-New-Film-Capitalism-Love-Story.html

As I said, people are more careful with their own money than with the money of other people.  My cameraman would not have just canceled minute if he was made to sign a contract to be responsible for the associated costs.  With no responsibility, he had no incentive to care since it was my loss.  Of course there is the moral incentive, but I believe capitalism works because I am not naive to human nature: People are not necessarily moral, or at least not always, but they do respond to incentives.  From now on, I will be asking my assistants to sign a contract.
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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2010, 09:58:32 PM »

Should I shave my beard for the Olympia?


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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2010, 10:17:14 PM »

First off, I know nothing about pornography.

Someone recommended the Canon EOS 5D Mark II but another person said that the Canon Rebel T2i would be fine.  Huh

Any help?
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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2010, 11:04:23 PM »

PTPS

Should I?


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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2010, 11:14:20 PM »

Shooting bodybuilding contests is never easy. If you are close to the stage you are looking up and this isn't the best perspective to shoot physiques. Near the front or in the audience there is always someone's head in front blocking part of the view. Somewhere in the middle of the audience and at waist level to the competitors is ideal. You will need a tripod because of the relatively low light levels. You might be better off being up in a balcony but at the front so no one obstructs your view. If near the back you will need a good telephoto and probably a zoom because you need to take shots of individuals then zoom out for comparisons.

The Canon 5DII is what I use and I have two of them. I would use the 70-200 most of the time for contests. If you are nearer the back then the 100-400 might work better. You can up the ISO to 800 on this camera and still get photos that don't show much noise. Shoot RAW plus jpg so you can change the white balance in processing.

If you want to enjoy the Olympia then don't watch it through a camera view finder! Let someone else take the photos.

Hope this helps.


The shot of Kai was taken from up in the balcony with a 300mm lens and the Nikon D300.


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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2010, 11:19:57 PM »

With a professional camera how many gigapixels of resolution can it give, or is it even ever announced?

A frame of 35 mm film is the equivalent of 25 megapixels.  A 4 by 5 inch sheet of film in a large format camera is the equivalent of 17 frames of 35 mm film...I used to make photo murals.
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« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2010, 12:29:20 AM »

Shooting bodybuilding contests is never easy. If you are close to the stage you are looking up and this isn't the best perspective to shoot physiques. Near the front or in the audience there is always someone's head in front blocking part of the view. Somewhere in the middle of the audience and at waist level to the competitors is ideal. You will need a tripod because of the relatively low light levels. You might be better off being up in a balcony but at the front so no one obstructs your view. If near the back you will need a good telephoto and probably a zoom because you need to take shots of individuals then zoom out for comparisons.

The Canon 5DII is what I use and I have two of them. I would use the 70-200 most of the time for contests. If you are nearer the back then the 100-400 might work better. You can up the ISO to 800 on this camera and still get photos that don't show much noise. Shoot RAW plus jpg so you can change the white balance in processing.

If you want to enjoy the Olympia then don't watch it through a camera view finder! Let someone else take the photos.

Hope this helps.


The shot of Kai was taken from up in the balcony with a 300mm lens and the Nikon D300.

Yes it is very helpful, thanks.

The Canon 5D Mark II was sold out locally and also requires more user intervention than I wish to be undertake at this point in time [I am a beginner in terms of photography].  I do not have a press pass thus I will not have good seats to shoot the Olympia contest itself, so my primary concern is photographs and videos in the expo hall itself.  That is, if I can get a cameraman.  Lips sealed
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« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2010, 01:08:40 AM »

canon 5d mark 2 is my dream camera, but it is overkill if your not rich and are not going to photograf as a seroius hobby. T2i is better for you and spend som money in lenses (they are more important). a second hand 70-200 2.8 IS and a T2i is the same money as a 5d 2 and would be a awesome combo for bodybuilding shows. Another lens you should buy is the 50mm 1.8, its cheap, plastic and the quality sucks. but it produces awesome photos and only cost like 120 dollars.
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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2010, 01:12:40 AM »

ah didnt know you already bought it, its an awesome camera with very good filming options. but do buy a new lens, the kit lens sucks more than fatpandas muscularity.

cheap but good lenses is

tamron 17-50 2.8. good allround lens, great for the expo and intervues.
canon 70-200 f4L, its a L lens (canons professional line) so the quality is superb and it produces awesome pictures and cost only 600 euros. Good telelens on the shows, dont forget to jack up the iso
sigma 10-22 if you want wideangel and dont have much room to film
canon 50mm 1.8: great and cheap lens if the lightning is bad
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