i respect you too Kiwiol.
The feeling is mutual, Mars.
We need to shortlist a bunch of pros to endorse next year. I'll organise a meeting soon.
i dont know. they are both about the same height...and all sergio's arm measurements would be at least equal to jays...his chest and lat development were the same...jay would outweight him for sure due to a midsection double in size and leg measurement much larger...but i think side by side oliva would look lighter, but overall more impressive due to his taper and proportions
Oliva was about 220 - 230 lb, while Jay is 270 something pounds and maybe a fair bit leaner, so it would be interesting to see how they look next to each other. Jay would have a lot more muscle and would beat Oliva if you look at it from the IFBB judging criteria, but yes, Oliva would look better of the 2, IMO also.