Front Double Bicep!!!!!

[JOHN MATRIX]

improvement?

[JOHN MATRIX]

ha, they are not better in any single muscle group at all, the only difference is that their midsections are bloated lumps of insulin and mutated GH intestines

[scottmarkley]

why are the arms turning to shit these days   

[Tito24]

haha with all these drugs they still cant beat an ironager. thats pathetic.

[johnny1]

improvement?

No improvement in V Taper, waist, hip and flare and when you take into account that FDB pic is from a past his Prime Sergio in 1981.....a Prime Sergio in 1972 the Difference is on another level again, no one doubts for a second Jay and Phil are bigger and Harder, better conditioned etc etc, but better in the FDB than SERGIO?....matter of opinion...imo...NO... BIGGER but not "better"

[Tito24]

the funny thing is indeed that hes lighter but sergio looks bigger than both of these guys haha.

[Meso_z]

Oliva looks like shit compared to the guys today, deal with it bitch.

[Tito24]

Oliva looks like shit compared to the guys today, deal with it bitch.

hi jay

[JOHN MATRIX]

Oliva looks like shit compared to the guys today, deal with it bitch.

ha.haha.hAHHAHAH -HOHOHOHHOHOHOHOHOHOH!!!!

[kiwiol]

Oliva looks like shit compared to the guys today, deal with it bitch.

He would look like a light heavyweight next to guys like Jay, for sure. I wouldn't want to look like Jay, although I respect his build and the kind of drive it takes to get there.

The top guys in the 90s were as good as it got, IMO.

[Tito24]

i respect you too Kiwiol.

[JOHN MATRIX]

He would look like a light heavyweight next to guys like Jay, for sure. I wouldn't want to look like Jay, although I respect his build and the kind of drive it takes to get there.

The top guys in the 90s were as good as it got, IMO.

i dont know. they are both about the same height...and all sergio's arm measurements would be at least equal to jays...his chest and lat development were the same...jay would outweight him for sure due to a midsection double in size and leg measurement much larger...but i think side by side oliva would look lighter, but overall more impressive due to his taper and proportions

[kiwiol]

i respect you too Kiwiol.

The feeling is mutual, Mars.

We need to shortlist a bunch of pros to endorse next year. I'll organise a meeting soon.

i dont know. they are both about the same height...and all sergio's arm measurements would be at least equal to jays...his chest and lat development were the same...jay would outweight him for sure due to a midsection double in size and leg measurement much larger...but i think side by side oliva would look lighter, but overall more impressive due to his taper and proportions

Oliva was about 220 - 230 lb, while Jay is 270 something pounds and maybe a fair bit leaner, so it would be interesting to see how they look next to each other. Jay would have a lot more muscle and would beat Oliva if you look at it from the IFBB judging criteria, but yes, Oliva would look better of the 2, IMO also.

[Tito24]

[Mr Nobody]

Sergio = probably the greatest Genetics even to this day, full muscle length on every body part. If he used the drugs these characters use and given the same circumstances in defined condition, date and time maybe he would be Mr O 2010.

[Tito24]

Sergio = probably the greatest Genetics even to this day, full muscle length on every body part. If he used the drugs these characters use and given the same circumstances in defined condition, date and time maybe he would be Mr O 2010.

hi sergio

[JOHN MATRIX]

Sergio = probably the greatest Genetics even to this day, full muscle length on every body part. If he used the drugs these characters use and given the same circumstances in defined condition, date and time maybe certainly he would be Mr O 2010.

fixxed

[Jaime]

Always hear a lot of talk about genetics.

There is the difference between someone like Phil who people say has great genetics and Sergio, someone who was truly gifted.

Sergio would look a 1000 times better head to head, the weight disparity is all gut and legs. His upperbody would make them both look like amateurs.

The fact that someone with Jay's structure is winning Olympia's is a travesty.

[Pollux]

why are the arms turning to shit these days   

Depends whose arms you're talkin' about, dawg.

[oldtimer1]

I keep reading about how Sergio was around 220.  I have an interview with him and he says at his peak he was 253. His condition in 1972 would wipe the floor with todays pros. 

[WEIBK]

SERGIO OLIVIA WAS ON OF THE MOST SUCCESSFUL, AND GREAT BODYBUILDER WITH HUGE MUSCLES. CAN'T COMPARE HIM WITH TODAYS BODYBUILDERS. GREAT WILL REMAIN GREAT.

[~UN_$ung~]

sergio looks like garbage next to jay and phil


doesnt matter how much baby oil he slathers on himself, he cant hide that his stage bodyfat was 6 weeks out in todays conditon

[Lundgren]

I keep reading about how Sergio was around 220.  I have an interview with him and he says at his peak he was 253. His condition in 1972 would wipe the floor with todays pros. 

On stage he was about 185. Offseason probally about the 253 he claimed.going from gut (bulking) to abs is 30 pounds of fat, to onstage bf levels another 30.

Anyhow bbing is a freak niche sport at this point. Pro's are getting shorter every year, and look more and more like shit.

[NarcissisticDeity]

improvement?

in terms of conditioning and size yes , in terms of aesthetics and natural structure no

[jaejonna]

in terms of conditioning and size yes , in terms of aesthetics and natural structure no

yes ....