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« on: September 29, 2010, 02:38:46 PM »

Mine would have to be Nails, who feuded with the (RIP Big Boss Man in the early 90's..I always thought he was  one of the coolest when he came out..



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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2010, 04:30:43 PM »

Plus he kicked VKM's ass for real, so that makes him good people.  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2010, 04:54:24 PM »

He kicked the old man's ass & then sued him for harassment!
Nailz was a "locker room hero" for a quite a while.
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2010, 05:08:52 PM »

He kicked the old man's ass & then sued him for harassment!
Nailz was a "locker room hero" for a quite a while.

Hell yeah!  I need a t-shirt referring to him.
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2010, 04:31:43 AM »

He grabbed Vince by the throat and chocked him until he was blue in the face. It took Pat Patterson, John Nord (aka, Berzerker), Gerald Brisco & Robert Remus (aka, SGT Slaughter) to get Nailz off McMahon.  Apparantly it was over his SS 1992 payoff. He rec'd a check for like 5 grand while Undertaker got 500,000.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2010, 05:00:17 AM »

He grabbed Vince by the throat and chocked him until he was blue in the face. It took Pat Patterson, John Nord (aka, Berzerker), Gerald Brisco & Robert Remus (aka, SGT Slaughter) to get Nailz off McMahon.  Apparantly it was over his SS 1992 payoff. He rec'd a check for like 5 grand while Undertaker got 500,000.

too bad Vince's lackeys rescued him.
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2010, 07:29:35 AM »

too bad Vince's lackeys rescued him.
He would have strangled Vince to death had they not.
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2010, 09:04:10 AM »

He would have strangled Vince to death had they not.

One can only dream..... Grin
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2010, 09:15:25 AM »

What was the scuffle about ?? can anyone refresh me..
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2010, 09:27:38 AM »

What was the scuffle about ?? can anyone refresh me..


VKM shafted him on pay for his match with Undertaker.
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2010, 12:45:00 PM »

What was the scuffle about ?? can anyone refresh me..

Nailz was pissed at Vince because he saw the Undertaker's summerslam 1992 payoff which was 500,000. Kamala who wrestled the Undertaker only recieved 13,000 and Nailz who wrestled in the second match got 5,000.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2010, 02:42:57 PM »

I had no idea that Taker pulled in that kind of dough for any single appearance - especially that early in his WWF tenure!
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2010, 05:41:07 PM »

I liked Al Snow's Avatar gimmick. In that character, Snow wrestled a very fluid, technical style. As a bjj guy, I could appreciate it. Obviously, the "WWE Universe" felt otherwise.
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2010, 05:47:53 PM »

I liked Al Snow's Avatar gimmick. In that character, Snow wrestled a very fluid, technical style. As a bjj guy, I could appreciate it. Obviously, the "WWE Universe" felt otherwise.


Funny.
That was shortly before guys like Angle & Benoit caught on.

For a fairly brief period, WWF was apparently (and believably) discouraging their talent from using too much amateur style in their matches.
Then, as guys like Haas, Benjamin, and Lesnar came up the ranks, I think management learned that those guys lent a great deal of realism & "legitimacy" to the previously hokey product.
Ross even began encouraging young hopefuls to acquire a foundation of amateur skills before pursuing the pro's.

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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2010, 06:41:46 PM »

Nailz was pissed at Vince because he saw the Undertaker's summerslam 1992 payoff which was 500,000. Kamala who wrestled the Undertaker only recieved 13,000 and Nailz who wrestled in the second match got 5,000.

I would have been pissed too, VM sounds  like dana white! hahaha
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2010, 06:47:59 PM »

I'm guessing the champ during 92's SS was either Flair or Macho.
I wonder what their payoffs were.

For WMIII - and I'm sure other events - Hogan made more than all the other talent combined.
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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2010, 06:50:46 PM »

I'm guessing the champ during 92's SS was either Flair or Macho.
I wonder what their payoffs were.

For WMIII - and I'm sure other events - Hogan made more than all the other talent combined.


Hogan paved the way for Vince to make it big..this I can somewhat understand why he got so much $$$$

no other wrestler in the 80's had as much charisma and popularity as Hogan, no one
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2010, 07:07:38 PM »

Hogan paved the way for Vince to make it big..this I can somewhat understand why he got so much $$$$

no other wrestler in the 80's had as much charisma and popularity as Hogan, no one



Oh, I agree.
Nobody had Hogan's charisma, and nobody had Vince's vision.
Neither could have done what they did without the other.

Hogan worked at the top of every territory he went to.
But, prior to the old man taking over the company/industry, the "top" was very limited.

Likewise, Vince could easily have put someone else in Hogan’s spot, but they very likely would never have done the job Hogan did.
Remember that Vince tried several new incarnations of “the golden child” over the years: Sid, Luger, Warrior - none of them had it.

It only worked because of BOTH men.


Having said that, Vince has been both the best AND worst thing to happen to wrestling.
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2010, 04:21:54 AM »

I'm guessing the champ during 92's SS was either Flair or Macho.
I wonder what their payoffs were.

For WMIII - and I'm sure other events - Hogan made more than all the other talent combined.

Flair in early 1992, Savage in mid 1992 and then Hart for the remainder of the year.

I know for a fact from my "source" that the major players get a sick payday at ppv events and they command a large number of the gate during house shows IF they tour.
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2010, 04:47:47 AM »

I'm just surprised that Taker was considered a major player at that time.
He hadn't been with the company all that long, and his biggest feud going was only with Kamala.

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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2010, 07:03:26 AM »


Remember that Vince tried several new incarnations of “the golden child” over the years: Sid, Luger, Warrior - none of them had it.


For about a minute, Vince thought this guy was gonna be the next Hogan. Looking at him, you can see why.


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMMWTxD1v9Y" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMMWTxD1v9Y</a>

I actually saw Tom Magee in person at a gym in Manhattan. I've never had someone make me feel so physically insignificant. At the time, I was in my early 20s, 6'3" 215 natty. Magee made me look like a child, 6'6" 270, zero bodyfat, barndoor shoulders, no waist.
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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2010, 09:22:31 AM »


Oh, I agree.
Nobody had Hogan's charisma, and nobody had Vince's vision.
Neither could have done what they did without the other.

Hogan worked at the top of every territory he went to.
But, prior to the old man taking over the company/industry, the "top" was very limited.

Likewise, Vince could easily have put someone else in Hogan’s spot, but they very likely would never have done the job Hogan did.
Remember that Vince tried several new incarnations of “the golden child” over the years: Sid, Luger, Warrior - none of them had it.

It only worked because of BOTH men.


Having said that, Vince has been both the best AND worst thing to happen to wrestling.

Agree totally.. Hogan understood the dynamics and how to play/control the crowd...he was a master..when you have 70,000 people in an arena plus millions at home copying his moves (the hand to the ear thing) you're on to something, he also for a huge guy was a great face, inspiring kids to train, take their vitamins, etc.

You don't usually think of a 6'7, 320lb guy as a face, lol
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2010, 09:29:20 AM »


Funny.
That was shortly before guys like Angle & Benoit caught on.

For a fairly brief period, WWF was apparently (and believably) discouraging their talent from using too much amateur style in their matches.
Then, as guys like Haas, Benjamin, and Lesnar came up the ranks, I think management learned that those guys lent a great deal of realism & "legitimacy" to the previously hokey product.
Ross even began encouraging young hopefuls to acquire a foundation of amateur skills before pursuing the pro's.


current wrestlers jack swagger and dolf ziggler are also supposed to have real college wrestling backgrounds.
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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2010, 10:19:40 AM »

I remember only reading about Hogan in mags for a long time, all the way back to his AWA days, and thinking wow, would love to see him wrestle.  I went over to a friend of my dad's house who had a satellite to watch him......just didn't "get it" as I was raised on Flair, Valentine, Blackjack Mulligan, Steamboat, etc...  and Hogan just seemed so cartoonish and the Hulking-up was the clincher. 
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« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2010, 01:12:16 PM »

Hogan deserved every penny he got because he made wrestling what it is. He filled the arenas night after night and made McMahon rich.
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