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Re: Earth 2 discovered =O
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2010, 07:50:02 AM »
But we might be able to communicate, if the creatures that might be on that planet knew how to use radio signals.

we have been sending out radio signlas into the space for years trying to get some contact with someone/thing And they have hard signal a few times which they couldn't figure out.

Dont know that they were called. Im sure its on youtube, a pretty big facility, nothing secret or anything

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communication_with_Extraterrestrial_Intelligence

and we have also sending it to stars far far away

Stars to which messages were sent, are the following:[5]
Name    Designation HD    Constellation    Date sent    Arrival date    Message
16 Cyg A    HD 186408    Cygnus             May 24 , 1999       November 2069    Cosmic Call 1
15 Sge    HD 190406    Sagitta             June 30 , 1999      February 2057    Cosmic Call 1
   HD 178428    Sagitta                     June 30 , 1999      October 2067    Cosmic Call 1
Gl 777    HD 190360    Cygnus              July 1 , 1999         April 2051    Cosmic Call 1
   Hip 4872    Cassiopeia                    July 6 , 2003           April 2036    Cosmic Call 2
   HD 245409    Orion                    July  6 , 2003            August 2040    Cosmic Call 2
55 Cnc    HD 75732    Cancer                    July 6 , 2003             May 2044    Cosmic Call 2
   HD 10307    Andromeda                    July 6 , 2003                September 2044    Cosmic Call 2
47 UMa    HD 95128    Ursa Major           July 6 , 2003                 May 2049    Cosmic Call 2

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Re: Earth 2 discovered =O
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2010, 07:52:48 AM »

Ummm...that would take 10,000 years to get that far. lol

Distance = time in this case. It takes 1 year to travel 1 light year at the speed of light. We been sending radio signal for just over 100 years, which would mean just over 100 light years away.

The signals too, may not get very far. A couple light years at best as background noise in space destroys the signals. Which could also be the reason we haven't heard from any 'Alien Radio Stations'.  ;D

I could have said "send them on their way". That is more accurate. ;D

You are right, it's very likely that nothing detectable gets that far. It's the background noice and the scattering of the waves.

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« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2010, 07:53:32 AM »
The distances between objects in the Universe are so incredibly vast it is reasonable to think we'll never visit, nor be visited by other beings, assuming intelligent life exists. It's unlikely we'll ever visit the outer reaches of our own solar system for that matter, as it would take a conventional rocket thousands of years to merely reach the Oort Cloud, if it exists, which is only 1 light year or so away.

That sounds a bit pessimistic. There are natural laws and phenomenon that are yet to be discovered, that could radically alter things and make travelling cosmic distances possible in a way we can never think of at present.

A couple of hundred years ago, people would have said that it's impossible for someone in Europe to hear what someone in some Asian country was saying. While that's technically true, we've got phones that make it possible now.

Same goes for long-distance space travel - not feasible with the current technology, but could very likely happen, although I'm obviously just speculating.

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« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2010, 09:09:48 AM »
That sounds a bit pessimistic. There are natural laws and phenomenon that are yet to be discovered, that could radically alter things and make travelling cosmic distances possible in a way we can never think of at present.

A couple of hundred years ago, people would have said that it's impossible for someone in Europe to hear what someone in some Asian country was saying. While that's technically true, we've got phones that make it possible now.

Same goes for long-distance space travel - not feasible with the current technology, but could very likely happen, although I'm obviously just speculating.

Would be nice to create wormholes etc, but it that sort of technology is still sci-fi at the moment. But you're right, ya never know.
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« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2010, 09:22:24 AM »
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« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2010, 09:28:43 AM »
A lot of people also forget that the imaging we are getting is like 10,000 years old since it takes light that long to travel here

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« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2010, 09:29:30 AM »
We don't need to wait for Aliens to contact us. They are already walking among us. Well, that is what the Inquirer says anyways...

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« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2010, 10:17:01 AM »
Would be nice to create wormholes etc, but it that sort of technology is still sci-fi at the moment. But you're right, ya never know.

Most scientists say that's our best bet and could be done with future technology.

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« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2010, 12:16:41 PM »
so by the time our message is answered we are most likely to have become extinct........

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« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2010, 01:43:34 PM »
WHY THE FUCK ARE WE SENDING OUT MESSAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!111!!

DO we WANT to be KILLED????

WE SHOULD BE FUCKING HIDING!!!

ALL brodcast shoult be halted and ONLY landlines/cableS shouled be used.

LOW LIGHT CURFIEW should be mandatory!!!

EVEYONE SHOULD LIVE UNDERGROUND LIKE HOBBITS!!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2010, 02:51:23 PM »
If you go fast enough to get there you might end up warping time in a pretzel ultimately going back in time on the way there. If you travel fast enough you would go back in time right?

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« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2010, 02:58:10 PM »
WHY THE FUCK ARE WE SENDING OUT MESSAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!!!!!!!111!!

DO we WANT to be KILLED????

WE SHOULD BE FUCKING HIDING!!!

ALL brodcast shoult be halted and ONLY landlines/cableS shouled be used.

LOW LIGHT CURFIEW should be mandatory!!!

EVEYONE SHOULD LIVE UNDERGROUND LIKE HOBBITS!!!!!!!!!
We send signals on just a few frequencies. We just assume they might be picking them up. It's highly doubtful we'd ever get through to any alien beings. An entire universe could be listening, but not on our frequency.

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« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2010, 06:23:31 PM »
what does the bible say about extra terrestrial life?
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« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2010, 06:26:51 PM »
what does the bible say about extra terrestrial life?

its against it
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« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2010, 06:34:17 PM »
what does the bible say about extra terrestrial life?

You'll have a 100 different christian opinions.

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« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2010, 09:42:58 PM »
Even with the best technology it would take something like 100,000 years to go 20 light years. That is one hell of a long way. We can't imagine a self-sufficient space ship being able to do that. Imagine getting a crew to man it? It would be a one-way trip to nowhere. How many generations would that be? 4000? Absolutely unthinkable.  Light goes 186,000 miles per second so imagine how light goes in 20 long years. Man will get to Mars and perhaps some of the moons of Jupiter and Saturn but that is about it. Interstellar travel seems a pipedream at the moment. Yes, technology is still young and who knows what the future will discover. However, I have doubts that fast travel will be possible between the stars.

The planet is similar to the moon in that the same side faces its star much like the moon faces the earth. That means one side would be boiling and the other freezing cold. That would produce huge storms if they have an atmosphere similar to earth but we don't know that yet. Any possible life would have to evolve in a narrow band near the edge of the planet where temperatures would be moderate. I have my doubts that life as we know it could evolve there. Maybe having seasons and day and night like we have are part of the requirements? This is still all speculation. There are NO radio signals from space that are not natural. In other words, the only signals out there came from our planet. Even though the likelihood of life elsewhere seems good, finding intelligent life and a civilization both close and current is another thing altogether. We may well be alone or if we are not we are unlikely to ever find anyone else out there. I can imagine humans eventually populating this galaxy called the Milky Way which has perhaps 100 billion stars. Andromeda is the closest other galaxy but it is 2.5 Million light years away and that seems impossible to bridge. The shows such as Star Wars are complete nonsense. You cannot have conversations across interstellar space. To talk to someone on the moon takes 1.5 seconds for the signal to get there and 1.5 to get it returned. To talk to someone in another star system would take years and years just to be received.



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« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2010, 09:52:54 PM »
it's 20 light years away from Earth.. so what if we discovered it's habitable?

No one would ever survive the journey..

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« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2010, 09:54:03 PM »
The shows such as Star Wars are complete nonsense.

Haha, thanks for clarifying that Einstein  ::)

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« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2010, 01:00:12 AM »
jesus was a reptilian

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« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2010, 01:05:52 AM »
jesus was a reptilian
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« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2010, 01:10:01 AM »
marcos chacon?

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« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2010, 02:01:46 AM »
So mars was markos chamok?

The Marcos Chamak (sp?) account belonged to another guy who's been here for ages and he changed it's handle to Tito24. He's a fan of the great Mars, which is why he handed over that account, so Mars could post using it.

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« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2010, 02:57:11 AM »
Even with the best technology it would take something like 100,000 years to go 20 light years. That is one hell of a long way. We can't imagine a self-sufficient space ship being able to do that. Imagine getting a crew to man it? It would be a one-way trip to nowhere. How many generations would that be? 4000? Absolutely unthinkable.  Light goes 186,000 miles per second so imagine how light goes in 20 long years. Man will get to Mars and perhaps some of the moons of Jupiter and Saturn but that is about it. Interstellar travel seems a pipedream at the moment. Yes, technology is still young and who knows what the future will discover. However, I have doubts that fast travel will be possible between the stars.

The planet is similar to the moon in that the same side faces its star much like the moon faces the earth. That means one side would be boiling and the other freezing cold. That would produce huge storms if they have an atmosphere similar to earth but we don't know that yet. Any possible life would have to evolve in a narrow band near the edge of the planet where temperatures would be moderate. I have my doubts that life as we know it could evolve there. Maybe having seasons and day and night like we have are part of the requirements? This is still all speculation. There are NO radio signals from space that are not natural. In other words, the only signals out there came from our planet. Even though the likelihood of life elsewhere seems good, finding intelligent life and a civilization both close and current is another thing altogether. We may well be alone or if we are not we are unlikely to ever find anyone else out there. I can imagine humans eventually populating this galaxy called the Milky Way which has perhaps 100 billion stars. Andromeda is the closest other galaxy but it is 2.5 Million light years away and that seems impossible to bridge. The shows such as Star Wars are complete nonsense. You cannot have conversations across interstellar space. To talk to someone on the moon takes 1.5 seconds for the signal to get there and 1.5 to get it returned. To talk to someone in another star system would take years and years just to be received.




Do you think a 1000 years ago men thought it would be possible to travel as fas as sound one day?

what about if the "race" has evolved for another billion years..? then traveling between stars isn't so amazing.. maby they can teleport or wherever they can put a beam on or a signal on etc..

stop thinking inside the box and comparing to humans.. we   have   no   idea