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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #75 on: October 02, 2010, 06:30:28 PM »
I'm an American.  And I'm not the one complaining.  The game doesn't really bother me.  What I'm saying is I understand why those who did complain had a problem with the game, for the reasons I've already stated.  So, stop trying to make this about me and look at the actual facts.  The problem here is the company's lack of foresight; not looking at the big picture.  

Most conservatives are in law enforcement and the military?  News to me.  That doesn't leave many people to help run the rest of the country.  

In any event, your beef is with the people who complained, not with me.  And I understand you have no empathy for folks who complained.  Not a big deal.

Of course I meant that the majority of people in law enforcement and military are conservative... Obviously.


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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #76 on: October 02, 2010, 06:38:01 PM »
Of course I meant that the majority of people in law enforcement and military are conservative... Obviously.



That obviously isn't what you said.  But so what?  The majority of the country is conservative. 

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #77 on: October 02, 2010, 07:00:55 PM »
That obviously isn't what you said.  But so what?  The majority of the country is conservative.  

According to whom?

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #78 on: October 02, 2010, 10:55:46 PM »
According to whom?

Gallup in poll in 2009 showed 40% of Americans identified themselves as conservative, 35% as moderate and 21% as liberal. I would be willing to bet those numbers of conservatives is up slightly now but this is the most recent poll I could find. Regardless, liberals are far outnumbered.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/conservatives-single-largest-ideological-group.aspx

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #79 on: October 02, 2010, 10:58:54 PM »
Gallup in poll in 2009 showed 40% of Americans identified themselves as conservative, 35% as moderate and 21% as liberal. I would be willing to bet those numbers of conservatives is up slightly now but this is the most recent poll I could find. Regardless, liberals are far outnumbered.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/conservatives-single-largest-ideological-group.aspx

That doesn't sound like 1/2 and it's less than those that consider themselves moderate (like myself) and liberal combined.

I personally find that saying you're "conservative" or "liberal" is far too broad.

I am personally very fiscally conservative, but socially liberal.

Keep out of my personal business and out of my wallet and we'll get along just fine.

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« Reply #80 on: October 02, 2010, 11:14:56 PM »
That doesn't sound like 1/2 and it's less than those that consider themselves moderate (like myself) and liberal combined.

I personally find that saying you're "conservative" or "liberal" is far too broad.

I am personally very fiscally conservative, but socially liberal.

Keep out of my personal business and out of my wallet and we'll get along just fine.

To me, what you just described sounds more like a libertarian. I don't think most people know what the term "social liberal" actually means. I'm not saying you're one of those people, I don't know you but the majority have no clue and just say it.

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #81 on: October 02, 2010, 11:38:05 PM »
To me, what you just described sounds more like a libertarian. I don't think most people know what the term "social liberal" actually means. I'm not saying you're one of those people, I don't know you but the majority have no clue and just say it.

Well, I do believe in the government providing certain social functions, but I do believe it should be done with a certain amount of fiscal responsibility.

I do consider myself a libertarian however in a great many ways.

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #82 on: October 03, 2010, 02:10:05 AM »
Well, I do believe in the government providing certain social functions, but I do believe it should be done with a certain amount of fiscal responsibility.

I do consider myself a libertarian however in a great many ways.

Personally I do not feel the government has any reason to involve itself in the realm of social functions unless they collide within the realm of their intended powers, and this occurs very, very little. Take for instance the issue of gay marriage, I do not feel the government has any business telling homosexuals they can't marry, but I also feel they have no business sanctioning it. Let gays be gay, let them be is gay as they want to be, I don't care, but don't give them brownie points for being so. That's just one example.

I guess for awhile now I've pretty much considered myself a conservative/libertarian. I find myself strongly in agreement with libertarian philosophies but pure libertarian is too close to anarchy and we saw how that worked under the Articles of Confederation.

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #83 on: October 03, 2010, 05:01:04 AM »
Wait a minute, the Taliban is part of lunatic Islam, doesnt that mean Hugo should move this to the Religious board, lol!?!

To the point, no, the government has no right to censor the game, they didn't try to and that's good. On another note, it is of very low class for the designers and manufacturers of the game to set it up the way they did. How about a game called "Medal of Honor: NYC" you can be the terrorist flying into the WTC. Same difference and it's pretty low.

To those who keep bringing up that this is a stupid argument, sure, it's not nearly as important as other things but it's still something to talk about...please, take your medicine.
Right on.

I wonder if other nations would have banned it. Wouldn't surprise me, since Europe has pretty much dropped true freedom of speech.

Go to Germany and deny the Holocaust and they will throw your ass in jail. Go to the Netherlands and "insult Islam", whatever the hell that means. I'm sure Geert Wilders is having a tough time with it right now.

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« Reply #84 on: October 03, 2010, 05:04:00 AM »
Personally I do not feel the government has any reason to involve itself in the realm of social functions unless they collide within the realm of their intended powers, and this occurs very, very little. Take for instance the issue of gay marriage, I do not feel the government has any business telling homosexuals they can't marry, but I also feel they have no business sanctioning it. Let gays be gay, let them be is gay as they want to be, I don't care, but don't give them brownie points for being so. That's just one example.

I guess for awhile now I've pretty much considered myself a conservative/libertarian. I find myself strongly in agreement with libertarian philosophies but pure libertarian is too close to anarchy and we saw how that worked under the Articles of Confederation.

Right on brother...difference between a libertarian and an alleged 'conservative'.....
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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #85 on: October 03, 2010, 01:05:24 PM »
Personally I do not feel the government has any reason to involve itself in the realm of social functions unless they collide within the realm of their intended powers, and this occurs very, very little. Take for instance the issue of gay marriage, I do not feel the government has any business telling homosexuals they can't marry, but I also feel they have no business sanctioning it. Let gays be gay, let them be is gay as they want to be, I don't care, but don't give them brownie points for being so. That's just one example.

I guess for awhile now I've pretty much considered myself a conservative/libertarian. I find myself strongly in agreement with libertarian philosophies but pure libertarian is too close to anarchy and we saw how that worked under the Articles of Confederation.
I agree for the most part... What I'm saying is that I can agree with things like Medicare and Social Security.

What I don't agree with is how the government borrowed against those programs to fund other stuff.

So when I say I'm socially liberal, it's with certain caveats.

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« Reply #86 on: October 03, 2010, 02:53:45 PM »
I agree for the most part... What I'm saying is that I can agree with things like Medicare and Social Security.

What I don't agree with is how the government borrowed against those programs to fund other stuff.

So when I say I'm socially liberal, it's with certain caveats.

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #87 on: October 03, 2010, 04:18:24 PM »
There making money off the name taliban. IF it were trademarked this would be a none issue. There attempting to make money off using the name, I dont care if its in Afghanistan, but I think people who have lost their family members have ownership of the name.  Its that simple. Dont give me this free speech bullshit, if you were to do the same with mcdonalds it would never float. If the military trademarked the name it would be fine, sad thing is some people are making it almost necessary.

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #88 on: October 03, 2010, 04:23:49 PM »
According to whom?

Me.  And Gallup.  Thanks Arnold.   :)

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #89 on: October 03, 2010, 05:28:44 PM »
Me.  And Gallup.  Thanks Arnold.   :)

Like I said before... It wasn't half and it was less than the moderates and liberals together... So you're pretty much just wrong.

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« Reply #90 on: October 03, 2010, 05:32:29 PM »
Like I said before... It wasn't half and it was less than the moderates and liberals together... So you're pretty much just wrong.

Right.   ::)  Whether you go issue by issue, or look at things in the broader context, most people are conservative.  Then again, aren't you the person who said the country doesn't care about abortion? 

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« Reply #91 on: October 03, 2010, 05:33:56 PM »
Right.   ::)  Whether you go issue by issue, or look at things in the broader context, most people are conservative.  Then again, aren't you the person who said the country doesn't care about abortion? 

Yep... that's me.

Only the crazy christians care about abortion, but then they're as bad as the crazy tax people.

As you have seen me say on numerous occasions, if you think the answer to the countries problems is raising taxes or the baby jesus, you're part of the problem.

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #92 on: October 03, 2010, 05:34:34 PM »
Yep... that's me.

Only the crazy christians care about abortion, but then they're as bad as the crazy tax people.

As you have seen me say on numerous occasions, if you think the answer to the countries problems is raising taxes or the baby jesus, you're part of the problem.

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Re: Videogame Manufacturer to Stop Allowing Players to Assume Role of Taliban
« Reply #93 on: October 03, 2010, 06:47:11 PM »
Yep... that's me.

Only the crazy christians care about abortion, but then they're as bad as the crazy tax people.

As you have seen me say on numerous occasions, if you think the answer to the countries problems is raising taxes or the baby jesus, you're part of the problem.

EA master laying down the truth...damn! ;D
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