My Country, Canada, Is a Joke at Times

[disturbia]

A Toronto Shopkeeper catches someone stealing from him and makes a citizens arrest. Simple enough. Well not exactly. The shopkeeper was charged with assault and unlawful confinement. I kid you not. This ranks right up with the joke about how if someone breaks into your home in Canada and they slip on something in the process, they can sue you for damages. You have just entered the Twilight Zone.

One media outlet reported that the concern was to make a citizen's arrest you have to catch someone in the act and the shop keeper caught the guy an hour later when he returned to the store. That's nonsense. To make a citizen's arrest you have to see the person commit the crime. If someone comes up to you and says that guy just stole my wallet, if you didn't see it, you can't make a citizen's arrest. There's no one hour golden time limit.

In Canada when you make a citizen's arrest you can only hold the person until the police arrive. You can't haul him off and drag him to the police station like you can in the US with the era of bounty hunters. That might be part of the problem. Seemingly the shopkeeper tied the guy up with rope and put him in the back of his car. I suppose this would depend on how far away the car was and if he detained the guy in the back seat of his car or his trunk.

Either way, charging this guy is insane. Can you imagine if he received a worse sentence than the person who stole from him? Wouldn't that make Canada a joke. Initially he was charged with assault with a weapon because he had box cutters in his possession but those charges were later dropped

[NarcissisticDeity]

A Toronto Shopkeeper catches someone stealing from him and makes a citizens arrest. Simple enough. Well not exactly. The shopkeeper was charged with assault and unlawful confinement. I kid you not. This ranks right up with the joke about how if someone breaks into your home in Canada and they slip on something in the process, they can sue you for damages. You have just entered the Twilight Zone.

One media outlet reported that the concern was to make a citizen's arrest you have to catch someone in the act and the shop keeper caught the guy an hour later when he returned to the store. That's nonsense. To make a citizen's arrest you have to see the person commit the crime. If someone comes up to you and says that guy just stole my wallet, if you didn't see it, you can't make a citizen's arrest. There's no one hour golden time limit.

In Canada when you make a citizen's arrest you can only hold the person until the police arrive. You can't haul him off and drag him to the police station like you can in the US with the era of bounty hunters. That might be part of the problem. Seemingly the shopkeeper tied the guy up with rope and put him in the back of his car. I suppose this would depend on how far away the car was and if he detained the guy in the back seat of his car or his trunk.

Either way, charging this guy is insane. Can you imagine if he received a worse sentence than the person who stole from him? Wouldn't that make Canada a joke. Initially he was charged with assault with a weapon because he had box cutters in his possession but those charges were later dropped

fucking blood-sucking lawyers are to blame 

[Ursus]

Yea same in the UK. Duty of care even for robbers in your own home etc.

Store security can arrest people though. Same with doormen (I think)

[WillGrant]

Laws like that exist in NZ to mate its fucking stupid.
At least the muslims have got it right in regards to crims , get caught chop there hands off.

[Fallsview]

For a relatively safe big city it's getting worse and worse.  I was on Young Street a few years back walking around when I almost got shot by a drive by.  I was kissing pavement and shitting my pants. 

[dr.chimps]

For a relatively safe big city it's getting worse and worse.  I was on Young Street a few years back walking around when I almost got shot by a drive by.  I was kissing pavement and shitting my pants. 

Yonge Street.

[Lundgren]

Who the fuck would wanna live in toronto. It makes Iqaluit look good.

[Fallsview]

Yonge Street.

Hay, It's late but thank you for that correction Dr.

[Cy Tolliver]

A Toronto Shopkeeper catches someone stealing from him and makes a citizens arrest. Simple enough. Well not exactly. The shopkeeper was charged with assault and unlawful confinement. I kid you not. This ranks right up with the joke about how if someone breaks into your home in Canada and they slip on something in the process, they can sue you for damages. You have just entered the Twilight Zone.

One media outlet reported that the concern was to make a citizen's arrest you have to catch someone in the act and the shop keeper caught the guy an hour later when he returned to the store. That's nonsense. To make a citizen's arrest you have to see the person commit the crime. If someone comes up to you and says that guy just stole my wallet, if you didn't see it, you can't make a citizen's arrest. There's no one hour golden time limit.

In Canada when you make a citizen's arrest you can only hold the person until the police arrive. You can't haul him off and drag him to the police station like you can in the US with the era of bounty hunters. That might be part of the problem. Seemingly the shopkeeper tied the guy up with rope and put him in the back of his car. I suppose this would depend on how far away the car was and if he detained the guy in the back seat of his car or his trunk.

Either way, charging this guy is insane. Can you imagine if he received a worse sentence than the person who stole from him? Wouldn't that make Canada a joke. Initially he was charged with assault with a weapon because he had box cutters in his possession but those charges were later dropped

i think in ohio, us you've got to witness them commit a felony to conduct a citizens arrest

[CARTEL]

Sorry but Canada is a joke all the time.

[Flexb]

A Toronto Shopkeeper catches someone stealing from him and makes a citizens arrest. Simple enough. Well not exactly. The shopkeeper was charged with assault and unlawful confinement. I kid you not. This ranks right up with the joke about how if someone breaks into your home in Canada and they slip on something in the process, they can sue you for damages. You have just entered the Twilight Zone.

One media outlet reported that the concern was to make a citizen's arrest you have to catch someone in the act and the shop keeper caught the guy an hour later when he returned to the store. That's nonsense. To make a citizen's arrest you have to see the person commit the crime. If someone comes up to you and says that guy just stole my wallet, if you didn't see it, you can't make a citizen's arrest. There's no one hour golden time limit.

In Canada when you make a citizen's arrest you can only hold the person until the police arrive. You can't haul him off and drag him to the police station like you can in the US with the era of bounty hunters. That might be part of the problem. Seemingly the shopkeeper tied the guy up with rope and put him in the back of his car. I suppose this would depend on how far away the car was and if he detained the guy in the back seat of his car or his trunk.

Either way, charging this guy is insane. Can you imagine if he received a worse sentence than the person who stole from him? Wouldn't that make Canada a joke. Initially he was charged with assault with a weapon because he had box cutters in his possession but those charges were later dropped

I heard about this. Everything is fuked up in Canada. Immigrants have more rights than native white people. The face you can't say "merry christmas" in your place of work or school because it may offend a fuking worthless immigrant is the more absurd thing I've ever heard. It's like let's let useless immigrant people move on to out land and let them set the rules and abolish all of our own morals and codes.

[Flexb]

Who the fuck would wanna live in toronto. It makes Iqaluit look good.

Toronto is awesome, minus the immigrants. They have taken over like a mutha fuka

[Lundgren]

I heard about this. Everything is fuked up in Canada. Immigrants have more rights than native white people. The face you can't say "merry christmas" in your place of work or school because it may offend a fuking worthless immigrant is the more absurd thing I've ever heard. It's like let's let useless immigrant people move on to out land and let them set the rules and abolish all of our own morals and codes.

Meh if you stick to the white parts this aint a issue. Just stay the fuck away from toronto.

Toronto is awesome, minus the immigrants. They have taken over like a mutha fuka

you mean 2/3rds of the city.

[CARTEL]

Toronto is awesome, minus the immigrants. They have taken over like a mutha fuka

Those aren't immigrants, those are draft dodgers.

[Lundgren]

Those aren't immigrants, those are draft dodgers.

Toronto folk aren't canadian, less than 10 percent of the pop, are actually from other parts of the country. The majority are immigrants, or children of immigrants. I don't care about race but if your family history is limited to a shit hole like toronto, you have almost nothing in common with the rest of the country.

[Ex Coelis]

Toronto is awesome, minus the immigrants. They have taken over like a mutha fuka

I think diversity is part of what makes the city so great - same with Ottawa

Those aren't immigrants, those are draft dodgers.

haha

[240 is Back]

Here in Florida, USA....

You can catch a guy eating out of your fridge, he can get on his knees and beg, and you can cap his ass and make yourself coffee while you wait for the police to show up and mop the place.

and you're 100% legal.  

[Flexb]

Toronto folk aren't canadian, less than 10 percent of the pop, are actually from other parts of the country. The majority are immigrants, or children of immigrants. I don't care about race but if your family history is limited to a shit hole like toronto, you have almost nothing in common with the rest of the country.

For the record, I wasn't racist until I moved to t.o. lol

[Lundgren]

For the record, I wasn't racist until I moved to t.o. lol

Its not racism, its the beleif that your culture, has more relavence than an outsiders. In anthropology they call it, human nature, in Toronto, its racist nazi talk. 

I think diversity is part of what makes the city so great - same with Ottawa

haha

Meh I guess I'd agree, I just feel its a lie to say its canadian. I have more in common with the quebecois, or the inuit than with people there.

[Flexb]

I think diversity is part of what makes the city so great - same with Ottawa

haha

Ottawa doesn't come close to t.o in terms of fobs. I don't mind the socialized asians, blacks, east indians, etc. It's the ignorant fuks which this city is dominated with.

[Lundgren]

Ottawa doesn't come close to t.o in terms of fobs. I don't mind the socialized asians, blacks, east indians, etc. It's the ignorant fuks which this city is dominated with.

Lol same here, even FOBs agree that TO is fucked. Third world people bringing there third world problems to a megacity=bad. I got the biggest asian/exotic fetish going, still I ain't got no time for anyone making me feeling guilty about checking out another "canadian".

[Matt C]

I like living in Canada but I wish more Canadians could grasp the simple fact that "free" health care actually costs $160 billion dollars annually and ends up getting paid in higher costs of goods and greater taxes.  I don't understand why such a simple concept is so difficult to grasp.  People who need basic procedures done will cancel their appointments after being told they have to wait 6-18 months to receive care.  Anyone who is willing to hold down a job should scoff at "free" socialized health care.  The only people who benefit are those who want to do nothing except get freebies.  Even a person who is lower-middle class in the USA will receive greater care through private insurance than anywhere in Canada.  Do NOT be fooled, socialism is not the be-all-end-all that Michael Moore claims it is.  And incidentally, when Michael Moore needs health care he goes to the best private facilities available, NOT to Cuba.

[~UN_$ung~]

its not a canada problem its aworld problem.....

liberal policy has gone so awry.....and the lawyers have been left with control to shape daily life





you really have to ask youself......... has this politically correct, ultra sensitive, ultra sanitized, diversified, everybody-gets-a-trophy, affirmative action, lets-not-spank-our-children, non-offensive, ultra-litigious culture we now live in............with all the laws that are now in place to govern every moment of our lives...........has all of it done ANYTHING to make the world a better place

i would agrue that it is actually inversly proportional........that the world was far better when men were men and children knew who to respect and were taught that the world will run you over if you fail to compete.......and disputes were settled between mean, and the best man was chosen for a job........not the best man with a requisite skin tone..............ect., ect. ect.








(angry white man approved)

[Matt C]

I think diversity is part of what makes the city so great - same with Ottawa

You really should start to undo some of your army brainwashing Big Poppa J.  Diversity is not a strength, not in Canada, not anywhere.  In my city Aboriginals are 8% of the population and commit 80% of the violent crime.  Please tell me how my or my children's lives are made greater as a result of that?  Was it the Aboriginal-on-Aboriginal murder committed last week that makes it great?

Rather than stating that diversity is great, tell me WHY it's great.  Does it increase GDP?  Does it reduce crime?  Tell me what is so great about it instead of just repeating what the education system, news media, and army have told you.

[Ex Coelis]

I like living in Canada but I wish more Canadians could grasp the simple fact that "free" health care actually costs $160 billion dollars annually and ends up getting paid in higher costs of goods and greater taxes.  I don't understand why such a simple concept is so difficult to grasp.  People who need basic procedures done will cancel their appointments after being told they have to wait 6-18 months to receive care.  Anyone who is willing to hold down a job should scoff at "free" socialized health care.  The only people who benefit are those who want to do nothing except get freebies.  Even a person who is lower-middle class in the USA will receive greater care through private insurance than anywhere in Canada.  Do NOT be fooled, socialism is not the be-all-end-all that Michael Moore claims it is.  And incidentally, when Michael Moore needs health care he goes to the best private facilities available, NOT to Cuba.

you pay for it either way

at least with taxes everyone is covered