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Firefighters watch as home burns to the ground

Originally printed at http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/Firefighters-watch-as-home-burns-to-the-ground-104052668.html

By Reporter - Jason Hibbs
By Photojournalist - Mark Owen
September 30, 2010


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OBION COUNTY, Tenn. - Imagine your home catches fire but the local fire department won't respond, then watches it burn. That's exactly what happened to a local family tonight.

A local neighborhood is furious after firefighters watched as an Obion County, Tennessee, home burned to the ground.

The homeowner, Gene Cranick, said he offered to pay whatever it would take for firefighters to put out the flames, but was told it was too late.  They wouldn't do anything to stop his house from burning.

Each year, Obion County residents must pay $75 if they want fire protection from the city of South Fulton.  But the Cranicks did not pay.

The mayor said if homeowners don't pay, they're out of luck.

This fire went on for hours because garden hoses just wouldn't put it out. It wasn't until that fire spread to a neighbor's property, that anyone would respond.

Turns out, the neighbor had paid the fee.

"I thought they'd come out and put it out, even if you hadn't paid your $75, but I was wrong," said Gene Cranick.

Because of that, not much is left of Cranick's house.

They called 911 several times, and initially the South Fulton Fire Department would not come.

The Cranicks told 9-1-1 they would pay firefighters, whatever the cost, to stop the fire before it spread to their house.

"When I called I told them that. My grandson had already called there and he thought that when I got here I could get something done, I couldn't," Paulette Cranick.

It was only when a neighbor's field caught fire, a neighbor who had paid the county fire service fee, that the department responded. Gene Cranick asked the fire chief to make an exception and save his home, the chief wouldn't.

We asked him why.

He wouldn't talk to us and called police to have us escorted off the property. Police never came but firefighters quickly left the scene. Meanwhile, the Cranick home continued to burn.

We asked the mayor of South Fulton if the chief could have made an exception.

"Anybody that's not in the city of South Fulton, it's a service we offer, either they accept it or they don't," Mayor David Crocker said.

Friends and neighbors said it's a cruel and dangerous city policy but the Cranicks don't blame the firefighters themselves. They blame the people in charge.

"They're doing their job," Paulette Cranick said of the firefighters. "They're doing what they are told to do. It's not their fault."

To give you an idea of just how intense the feelings got in this situation, soon after the fire department returned to the station, the Obion County Sheriff's Department said someone went there and assaulted one of the firefighters.



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guys - what do you think about this?   personally, even though the guy did not pay the $75, I can't believe they just let it burn like that.  We all make some mistakes, but to just let the house go? 

I got into a discussion on FR on this, and they are calling me a Lib for saying the house should have been saved despite the fact thatt he guy did not pay the $75. 

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Re: Firefighters watch as home burns to the ground. What do you guys think?
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2010, 12:50:45 PM »
Should have saved it and just charged him the cost. Pretty stupid.

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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2010, 12:53:05 PM »
Should have saved it and just charged him the cost. Pretty stupid.

Obama did it

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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2010, 12:56:12 PM »
Obama did it

Maybe obama caused the guy to lose his job and he could not afford the $75? 

Maybe his health care costs skyrocketed due to ObamaCare and could not afford the $75? 

Go call Mal - I did not think of that angle.  Probably true. 

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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2010, 12:59:07 PM »
While I do think it's dumb to not just put it out and charge him.....seems like he knew he was supposed to pay for the protection and chose not to.  Hard to feel real sorry for him.

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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2010, 01:00:15 PM »
PAY THE FREAKING MONEY STUPID F'N FREELOADER!!!!The fire department should have let it burn as they did.If they put it out the next guy wouldnt have paid either,eventually no one would pay and the program goes under.PAY YOUR FREAKING BILLS!

Im also glad they made sure to put out the fire of  the guys house who did pay.That should be a good lesson for the next guy who wont pay.The health care should be just like this,no insurance,no money,you die on the street motherf##ker.

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« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2010, 01:01:13 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2010, 01:10:55 PM »
Should have saved it and just charged him the cost. Pretty stupid.

Yep.  Heartless too. 

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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2010, 01:11:37 PM »
Firefighters watch as home burns to the ground

Originally printed at http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/news/local/Firefighters-watch-as-home-burns-to-the-ground-104052668.html

By Reporter - Jason Hibbs
By Photojournalist - Mark Owen
September 30, 2010

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guys - what do you think about this?   personally, even though the guy did not pay the $75, I can't believe they just let it burn like that.  We all make some mistakes, but to just let the house go? 

I got into a discussion on FR on this, and they are calling me a Lib for saying the house should have been saved despite the fact thatt he guy did not pay the $75. 

LOL, 333386 are you turning into a socialist in your old age?
You do realize that what you advocate is in fact socialism don't you?
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« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2010, 01:14:45 PM »
LOL, 333386 are you turning into a socialist in your old age?
You do realize that what you advocate is in fact socialism don't you?

No - i would have put a lien for for 50k on the house after the fact.  there just seems something wrong with letting the house burn down over $75. 

Here is my thought - what if they had a fee of $75 for a paramedic and the guy was having a heart attack on the street.  Should the paramedics let the guy die in the street over $75? 

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« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2010, 01:15:31 PM »
Should have saved it and just charged him the cost. Pretty stupid.

Agree. 
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« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2010, 01:18:39 PM »
PAY THE FREAKING MONEY STUPID F'N FREELOADER!!!!The fire department should have let it burn as they did.If they put it out the next guy wouldnt have paid either,eventually no one would pay and the program goes under.PAY YOUR FREAKING BILLS!

Im also glad they made sure to put out the fire of  the guys house who did pay.That should be a good lesson for the next guy who wont pay.The health care should be just like this,no insurance,no money,you die on the street motherf##ker.

The irony is the guy whose field caught fire that they did respond to, ...wouldn't have had a problem to begin with had they simply responded to the first fire. The same will be the case with health insurance. Do you really want to be the guy WITH health insurance who contracts a very painful, incapacitating, contagious disease, which mutated into an incurable, untreatable and lethal one ...simply because the guy without health care wasn't treated?
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« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2010, 01:24:29 PM »
No - i would have put a lien for for 50k on the house after the fact.  there just seems something wrong with letting the house burn down over $75. 

Hey, I'm in total agreement with you. Letting the house burn was just wrong.

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Here is my thought - what if they had a fee of $75 for a paramedic and the guy was having a heart attack on the street.  Should the paramedics let the guy die in the street over $75? 

Do you really have to ask me how I feel about that? You know how I feel about Universal Health care.
I'm just so saddened that you guys south of our mutual border won't experience the joys of real universal healthcare under a single payer system, ...cause what you guys have now under Obamacare sure ain't it.
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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2010, 01:38:48 PM »
Flaws in the system.

The fire dept. Should have saved the house, put a collection on their credit report and sent 33333 to collect it.

Then 3333 and Obama could have sat down and had a beer together.  Of course 3333 would have insisted on being able to pack at the meeting and the secret service would have had to make a compromise as long it was ok for Obama to pack a socialist youth dagger. 

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« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2010, 01:40:57 PM »
Flaws in the system.

The fire dept. Should have saved the house, put a collection on their credit report and sent 33333 to collect it.

Then 3333 and Obama could have sat down and had a beer together.  Of course 3333 would have insisted on being able to pack at the meeting and the secret service would have had to make a compromise as long it was ok for Obama to pack a socialist youth dagger. 

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« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2010, 01:47:56 PM »
Flaws in the system.

The fire dept. Should have saved the house, put a collection on their credit report and sent 33333 to collect it.

Then 3333 and Obama could have sat down and had a beer together.  Of course 3333 would have insisted on being able to pack at the meeting and the secret service would have had to make a compromise as long it was ok for Obama to pack a socialist youth dagger. 

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« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2010, 02:00:25 PM »
The irony is the guy whose field caught fire that they did respond to, ...wouldn't have had a problem to begin with had they simply responded to the first fire. The same will be the case with health insurance. Do you really want to be the guy WITH health insurance who contracts a very painful, incapacitating, contagious disease, which mutated into an incurable, untreatable and lethal one ...simply because the guy without health care wasn't treated?

Most people let their emotions speak for them.They say save the house.If you saved the house why in the world would ANYONE ever pay the 75 dollars again.They would simply say "no need to pay it,they will save my house anyway".Sorry,you didnt pay,you KNEW they would let it burn,you took your chances and you got burned.Sorry,I have no mercy for you,I have mercy for the people that pay the 75 bucks and their house NEVER EVER catches fire.

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« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2010, 02:12:24 PM »
Most people let their emotions speak for them.They say save the house.If you saved the house why in the world would ANYONE ever pay the 75 dollars again.They would simply say "no need to pay it,they will save my house anyway".Sorry,you didnt pay,you KNEW they would let it burn,you took your chances and you got burned.Sorry,I have no mercy for you,I have mercy for the people that pay the 75 bucks and their house NEVER EVER catches fire.

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« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2010, 02:16:14 PM »
Most people let their emotions speak for them.They say save the house.If you saved the house why in the world would ANYONE ever pay the 75 dollars again.They would simply say "no need to pay it,they will save my house anyway".Sorry,you didnt pay,you KNEW they would let it burn,you took your chances and you got burned.Sorry,I have no mercy for you,I have mercy for the people that pay the 75 bucks and their house NEVER EVER catches fire.

I agree the guy totally screwed up and probably knew, but at the same time, I think it was wrong to let it burn.  i'm sure there are not a lot of fires as it is and they could have imposed a massive lien and judgement against him.

I just don't think we should give people the equivelent of the death penalty property wise for missing a $75 payment.   

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« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2010, 02:25:00 PM »
It's billy Mimnaugh in a bulking phase..Nice tats on the neck. When did you get those billy?





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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2010, 02:29:06 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2010, 02:30:05 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2010, 02:40:24 PM »
moron should have paid the fee, they should have saved the house but charged a penalty say 2k for the sake of doing so...

if he is smart he probably has insured his house for damage from fire but seeing as he didnt pay 75 bucks for the fire department Id say he doesnt have insurance either...

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« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2010, 02:42:30 PM »
Stolen from FR

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The "common sense" is very clear: rather than behave compassionately, these men acted out of motivation for the almighty dollar. They watched his house burn (metaphorically, if not literally). Any lesson he might have learned is drowned in the totality of his loss (let's remember, the son didn't say "Gee, we should have paid. Sorry, we'll do that from now on." He went and punched out the fire chief). You haven't won him over to the side of repentance for his selfishness (not paying his $75)... you've taught him that selfishness is the RULE (watching his house burn).

What you advocate is akin to punishing your toddler for smacking his brother by cutting off the toddler's hand hand. I guess he'll learn not to be violent now!

Two wrongs don't make a right, whatever the rationale...


324 posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 5:41:18 PM by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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