Firefighters watch as home burns to the ground. What do you guys think?

[Option D]

Nah, it's still Bush's fault.

nope...Obama did it...his administration is in, so anything bad that happens in the history of the earth..its his fault..Damn cap and trade

[The Showstoppa]

While we are at it, why not just blame Chester Arthur or James Madison?   

Clearly, it's Grover Clevelands fault, 33.

[Soul Crusher]

nope...Obama did it...his administration is in, so anything bad that happens in the history of the earth..its his fault..Damn cap and trade

mal - have you ever looked into the details of Cap & Trade?  

[BM OUT]

And people thought it impossible that a somewhat human could DEVOLVE past the point of same gender loving neanderthal...You Queen Mimnaugh have managed to accomplish that.

Queenie try reading my post again...it is written as a HYPOTHETICAL!!!! I know your drug taking and illegal activities has slowed what few brain cells you have down to a crawl, but try and think first before your fingers react on the keyboard.

To Mal,you can site 100 examples I give you Detroit,Bed Stye NY ,The 9th ward in New Orleans.Everywhere blacks live and the area is run by libs,crime,poverty and squaller follow.Everyone waiting for a government handout.

Hey little brain.I deal in FACTS!!Not CT or hypotheticals,in facts.This is your whole problem.Your life is a hypothetical ewhile the rest of us are actually living and working and paying your bills because your too dam lazy to get off your black ass and work.

The only thing that matters here are facts.He was told if he didnt pay the firefighters wouldnt come,he didnt pay,they let the house burned.Cry about it if you want,bitch about it piss about it moan about it,the facts are the lazy ass free loader got what he deserved.FINALLY in America the free loader got crapped on,fu## him and f##k you.

By the way sppok,if you ever called me a queen to my face Id beat the black right off of you.Id beat you like a runaway slave.

[Soul Crusher]

What if the guy paid that week, and the check did not clear the bank yet? 

[BM OUT]

What if the guy paid that week, and the check did not clear the bank yet? 

Again with these hypotheticals.What if you paid your car insurance at the last minute,it got lost in the mail and you got in an accident.Think your insurance is going to cover you if they never get that check?

[Soul Crusher]

Again with these hypotheticals.What if you paid your car insurance at the last minute,it got lost in the mail and you got in an accident.Think your insurance is going to cover you if they never get that check?

I'm just saying, there are many things that could have led the FD to think the guy never paid when he did, and their letting the house burn down is so dramatic as to that its not exactly something you say "oops my bad" 

[Skip8282]

Again with these hypotheticals.What if you paid your car insurance at the last minute,it got lost in the mail and you got in an accident.Think your insurance is going to cover you if they never get that check?

They probably would as they would follow up with you not paying - send you a few notices, warnings, etc.  If they put out the fire and then charged the guy, they're not really losing anything, but I see your point about everybody else refusing to pay then.  Sounds like they just need to change the whole system.

[Option D]

WTF  already!?!?!?! Just put out the damn fire...This is dumb

[kcballer]

You mean like when a insurance company pulls funding hours before a patient is about to go into surgery?

Bingo.

[kcballer]

Look it's clear the solution here.  The FD, Police, Paramedics etc are services for the commons.  Paid for by taxes and helped funded in some areas by extra 'fees'.  However, because they are in fact services for all, the denial of them to anyone for any reason is unquestionably wrong.  Whether that person is late in payment of taxes or is up to date.  To start denial of common services based on non payment is a slope towards a country i sure as sh*t would not want to live in. 

[BM OUT]

WTF  already!?!?!?! Just put out the damn fire...This is dumb

WTF already!?!?!?!Just pay the damm fee...this is dumb.

[240 is Back]

In the purest form of communism, all people hold all land, factories and so on in trust, as it were. In this way, all goods are shared ...

[Soul Crusher]

In the purest form of communism, all people hold all land, factories and so on in trust, as it were. In this way, all goods are shared ...

Can i share your sister? 

[240 is Back]

Can i share your sister? 

nah, she doesnt date fat guys

[240 is Back]

Can i share your sister? 

racist family commie post reported

[Soul Crusher]

nah, she doesnt date fat guys

At a weight of 205   5 8 did 315 for 10 on flat bench,  315 x 7 on incline, can do standing reps of 225 overhead.  etc etc.   

[240 is Back]

At a weight of 205   5 8 did 315 for 10 on flat bench,  315 x 7 on incline, can do standing reps of 225 overhead.  etc etc.   

sorry, that big head screams obesity at 3% body fat.  

[Soul Crusher]

sorry, that big head screams obesity at 3% body fat.  

I'm not saying I have 3% bf - but am natural and stronger than most on roids at same bodyweight. 

[BayGBM]

PAY THE FREAKING MONEY STUPID F'N FREELOADER!!!!The fire department should have let it burn as they did.If they put it out the next guy wouldnt have paid either,eventually no one would pay and the program goes under.PAY YOUR FREAKING BILLS!

Im also glad they made sure to put out the fire of  the guys house who did pay.That should be a good lesson for the next guy who wont pay.The health care should be just like this,no insurance,no money,you die on the street motherf##ker.

x2!  I love this story.  Pay the bill or pay the price.  It’s that simple.  Are you listening Methyl Mike?

I suspect everyone in that county or state will now stay current on his or her fire protection fee.

[Soul Crusher]

x2!  I love this story.  Pay the bill or pay the price.  It’s that simple.  Are you listening Methyl Mike?

I suspect everyone in that county or state will now stay current on his or her fire protection fee.

I would have saved the house and sent out a notice to all homeowners of the incident of the next time.  my guess is that this is extremely rare and there are little or no fires at all.  The guy should have paid, but they should not have compounded his idiocy in not paying ther $75 with letting the house burn down.   

[240 is Back]

I would have saved the house and sent out a notice to all homeowners of the incident of the next time.  my guess is that this is extremely rare and there are little or no fires at all.  The guy should have paid, but they should not have compounded his idiocy in not paying ther $75 with letting the house burn down.   

IMAGINE if a firefighter had DIED - in a house that didn't even pay for that service.

A fool and his $ are soon parted - in this case, he was foolish not to pay fireCare bill.

I think if we could redo this thread, you'd take another position, 33... but you don't want to be a flipflopper.

[Dos Equis]

His "big picture" arguments that try to corner people by derailing the thread from talk about one topic and changing it into a debate on all services are hilariously dumb.

This guy said he'd pay whatever to have his house saved. They save the house, hit him with the cleanup bill. If not, they take the house and sell it, turning a profit even. Capitalism wins.

Socialism? Not even relevant here. It's only being brought up because 240 and co. are ignoring the fact that the guy asked for them to save the house at any cost and are instead claiming that saving it would have meant the "government was forcing services on him". 

Horrible, horrible attempt at spinning going on here.

I agree with this. 

[BayGBM]

For those who think the fire fighters should have saved his house I have one narrow question: would you risk your life fighting a fire for someone who did not pay the fire protection fee? 

[Dos Equis]

For those who think the fire fighters should have saved his house I have one narrow question: would you risk your life fighting a fire for someone who did not pay the fire protection fee? 

Yes.  Absolutely.  Save the house.  Bill the owner for the cost.