Proof: Obama is Trying to Collapse the Nation

[Arnold jr]

333, not sure if you posted this already, so I apologize if this is a repeat but even if it is, I feel it deserves its own thread.

Obama to kill more jobs
Americanthinker.com ^ | September 13, 2010 | Joseph Mason

The latest job killing initiative by Barack Obama: focus new taxes on the oil and gas industry.

Just last week, President Obama explicitly targeted the industry for two massive tax hikes. First, he'd ban oil and gas companies from using the "Section 199" tax credit, a measure for domestic manufacturers enacted in 2004 to boost US employment. (The Senate is set to vote this week on its version of the ban.) Second, he wants to end "dual capacity" protection for US energy firms.

Without this shield against double taxation on foreign revenues, American companies would be competing on an uneven global playing field. Again, Obama aims directly and specifically at the US oil and gas industry.

Yet, by the federal government's own economic model, these tax hikes would lead to huge, immediate job losses. I ran the numbers through the Commerce Department's RIMS II model; it shows, under the proposed changes to Section 199 and dual capacity, Americans would almost immediately lose more than 150,000 stable, private-sector jobs.

By repealing the tax credit US-based companies claim on the taxes they pay abroad, Obama's "stimulus" plan would effectively double-tax American businesses -- driving investment to foreign competitors that don't face the same tax burden.

Again, Obama is enriching foreign oil companies at the expense of domestic ones. He has done this previously when he extended billions in loans to the Brazilian oil company Petrobras with extensive offshore oil programs through the U.S. Export-Import Bank, while trying to kills off offshore oil exploration in the Gulf by our companies.

Obama did it again this past week when the Ex-Im bank extended another billion in loans to support Mexican oil development in the Gulf. Obama seems to relish the opportunity to redistribute power and wealth to foreign countries and companies at our expense.

Why?

As Dinesh D'Souza writes, not only is Barack Obama the most anti-business President in American history but he seems to relish the opportunity to enrich and empower foreign companies at the expense of American ones. D'Souza speculates this is a legacy of Obama's immersion in foreign cultures as a child and the anti-colonial views of his father. American companies were seen as greedy and rapacious. His father railed against neo-colonialism where foreign companies replaced foreign government officials as the ruling power in the third world. His Indonesian stepfather worked for an American oil company in Indonesia and earned far less and lived a lesser lifestyle than American executives posted there. Also, Obama feels Americans use too much energy and that the lesser-developed nations should be entitled to use more, at our expense. What better way than to extend our tax dollars to foreign oil companies?

This strategy also is a way to further to enrich promoters of green schemes that benefit Democratic donors. The stories are accumulating of politically connected Democrats plugged into green schemes that depend on government powers that be, since the economics don't exist-being showered with government money-that they recycle into Democratic campaigns.

America, Obama is just not into us.

[Soul Crusher]

Throw a copy into my daily running thread. 

I plan on hanging that thread around every obama voters' neck in 2012. 

[Soul Crusher]

Proof of Obama trying to collapse the nation is in my thread on this. 

I know it seems crazy guys - but if you do any research on this guy, like Arnold and I have, there is no other reasonable conclusion to this. 

It is intentional. 

[Straw Man]

Reagan, Bush1 and Clinton all raised taxes

I guess they were tying to "intentionally collapse the nation"

Funny - the only POTUS who actually came close to collapsing the nation was Bush2 and he lowered taxes

[Soul Crusher]

Reagan, Bush1 and Clinton all raised taxes

I guess they were tying to "intentionally collapse the nation"

Funny - the only POTUS who actually came close to collapsing the nation was Bush2 and he lowered taxes

Go look at my thread Straw.  This is not a damn joke anymore.  He funds petrobas to drill in the gulf but sacks domestic companies for trying to do the same thing?  Why is that? 

At a time where the economy is on life support - who in their right mind does this?  Serious - who the hell does this knowing the results will be more job losses and misery other than someone intent on collapsing the system. 

I am reading Rules for Radicals by saul Alinsky and it is eery the amount of stuff in there that Obama repeats word for freaking word. 

 

[Straw Man]

Go look at my thread Straw.  This is not a damn joke anymore.  He funds petrobas to drill in the gulf but sacks domestic companies for trying to do the same thing?  Why is that? 

At a time where the economy is on life support - who in their right mind does this?  Serious - who the hell does this knowing the results will be more job losses and misery other than someone intent on collapsing the system. 

I am reading Rules for Radicals by saul Alinsky and it is eery the amount of stuff in there that Obama repeats word for freaking word. 
 

just saying, if Obama is really trying to intentionally collapse the country then he should do what Bush did because right around Sept/Oct/Nov of 2008 it sure looked like we were heading in that direction

[Soul Crusher]

just saying, if Obama is really trying to intentionally collapse the country then he should do what Bush did because right around Sept/Oct/Nov of 2008 it sure looked like we were heading in that direction

He is!   

What don't you get?  He is smarter than maybe even i gave him credit for in the public statements and persona he portrays while concealing the true intent of his policies. 

He is not going to come out and say "I want to collapse the nation" because he knows he would get impeached tommorow.  Instead, he presents these straw man arguments and diversions to the public all while poldding along with these crazy policies intended to undermine the system, collapse it from within, and all folling the Cloward & Piven model. 


There is simply no explanation for his actions at this point as he has been told from Day 1 that these policies are simply reckless in times like these.  So why would he pursue them? 

ObamaCare?  Geez dude - look at that mess!   I spent months warning of the drastic threat that was and the most likely outcome and guess what?  We are already there!  the system is collapsing from within due to this disaster. 

Straw - you need to wake up and realize that obama is not who you thought he was.  He is a dedicated socialists/marxist intent on collapsing the system because he utterly detests this nation and everything it stands for.   

[tonymctones]

just saying, if Obama is really trying to intentionally collapse the country then he should do what Bush did because right around Sept/Oct/Nov of 2008 it sure looked like we were heading in that direction

lmfao and exactly what did bush do to cause that strawman?

[Straw Man]

lmfao and exactly what did bush do to cause that strawman?

I'll let you decide on that

can you remember back to the last quarter of 2008 when we were supposedly days away from a global banking collapse and hemoraging jobs?

If Obama really wanted to collapse the nation (whatever that even means) he should just do what Bush was doing at that time

that's all I'm saying

[tonymctones]

I'll let you decide on that

can you remember back to the last quarter of 2008 when we were supposedly days away from a global banking collapse and hemoraging jobs?

If Obama really wanted to collapse the nation (whatever that even means) he should just do what Bush was doing at that time

that's all I'm saying

LMAO please give me specifics...

I can specifically give you a number of things that obama has intentionally done that have harmed the economy so please specifically what did bush do?

[Arnold jr]

I'll let you decide on that

can you remember back to the last quarter of 2008 when we were supposedly days away from a global banking collapse and hemoraging jobs?

If Obama really wanted to collapse the nation (whatever that even means) he should just do what Bush was doing at that time

that's all I'm saying

There are some similarities with Bush2 and Obama but there are also drastic differences. Bush has some big government progressive tendencies, no one is denying that. He made some poor decisions, the federal government grew far too large under Bush, no one's denying that.

Obama, he doesn't have progressive tendencies, he is a progressive through and through, a true anti-colonialist, a true fabian socialist.

Bush loved the system America is built on, but he did make decisions that were damaging to it. Obama hates the system America was built on, he finds it evil and unfair and makes no bones about it.

Bush based all his decisions on what he felt was for the good of the country, what he thought was for the good of the economy and free-market. Obama makes his decisions on what he believes is fair globally and puts the U.S in the back seat when making his decisions.

Bush, made mistakes but his biggest concern was the U.S.. Obama's last concern is the U.S. global fairness, social utopia is his only concern.

[Soul Crusher]

Again - i refer everyone to DSouzas book, my thread on Obama and the economy, his statements, and especially the below clips.  Who other than someone who hates the system says these things. 

 

[kcballer]

Raise the taxes but give them an incentive, something they can do to not pay those taxes like reduce their carbon footprint, or hire more full time employees. 

[Soul Crusher]

Check out this gem.

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October 07, 2010
Categories:White House.MTV screening Obama's audience for views, looks
The Backstage.com listing:

PRESIDENT OBAMA TOWN HALL, MTV

MTV, BET and CMT are casting the audience for town hall meeting with President Obama. Shooting Oct. 14, 4 p.m. in Washington, D.C.

Seeking—Audience Members: males & females, 18+.

To apply, email townhallaudience@mtvnmix.com and put “Town Hall” in the subject line. To ensure that the audience represents diverse interests and political views, include your name, phone number, hometown, school attending, your job and what issues, if any, you are interested in or passionate about. Also, provide a recent photo and short description of your political views. Submission deadline: Oct. 14. No pay.
Kelly McAndrew, a spokeswoman for Viacom, which owns MTV, said the screening was aimed at attracting a diverse audience.

"We’re just trying to get the broadest, most diverse audience possible," she said, denying that either Republicans or ugly people would be screened out. "We want to have divergent points of view – we’re not looking for a single-view audience."

"We’re going to have a very diverse looking audience," McAndrew said. "We want gender diversity, we want ethnicity diversity, we want religious diversity, we want political view diversity. We want diversity of all kinds."

(h/t Geraghty)

[Arnold jr]

Check out this gem.

________________________ _____________

October 07, 2010
Categories:White House.MTV screening Obama's audience for views, looks
The Backstage.com listing:

PRESIDENT OBAMA TOWN HALL, MTV

MTV, BET and CMT are casting the audience for town hall meeting with President Obama. Shooting Oct. 14, 4 p.m. in Washington, D.C.

Seeking—Audience Members: males & females, 18+.

To apply, email townhallaudience@mtvnmix.com and put “Town Hall” in the subject line. To ensure that the audience represents diverse interests and political views, include your name, phone number, hometown, school attending, your job and what issues, if any, you are interested in or passionate about. Also, provide a recent photo and short description of your political views. Submission deadline: Oct. 14. No pay.
Kelly McAndrew, a spokeswoman for Viacom, which owns MTV, said the screening was aimed at attracting a diverse audience.

"We’re just trying to get the broadest, most diverse audience possible," she said, denying that either Republicans or ugly people would be screened out. "We want to have divergent points of view – we’re not looking for a single-view audience."

"We’re going to have a very diverse looking audience," McAndrew said. "We want gender diversity, we want ethnicity diversity, we want religious diversity, we want political view diversity. We want diversity of all kinds."

(h/t Geraghty)

I'll be shocked if they allow any anti-Obama people in that thing and if they do, they will pick the biggest redneck idiots they can find.

[SAMSON123]

Proof of Obama trying to collapse the nation is in my thread on this. 

I know it seems crazy guys - but if you do any research on this guy, like Arnold and I have, there is no other reasonable conclusion to this. 

It is intentional. 

Conspiracy Theory

[Arnold jr]

Conspiracy Theory

One of the words in your post is right.

It's important to know, not all conspiracies are theories, there are actual real ones. People throw that phrase around so much "conspiracy theory" that it automatically discredits real conspiracies in peoples minds regardless of the blatant evidence.

[tonymctones]

LMAO please give me specifics...

I can specifically give you a number of things that obama has intentionally done that have harmed the economy so please specifically what did bush do?

still waiting for specifics straw...

i can rattle off a list of things that obama has done that has had a directly negative effect on the economy pls tell me what bush has done...

[Soul Crusher]

Conspiracy Theory

Is it a  CT?  In one sense, yes and I try to back my assertions with stories, opinions, and evidence supporting the theory. 

Is there another explanation for the daily insanity we see?

[whork25]

There are some similarities with Bush2 and Obama but there are also drastic differences. Bush has some big government progressive tendencies, no one is denying that. He made some poor decisions, the federal government grew far too large under Bush, no one's denying that.

Obama, he doesn't have progressive tendencies, he is a progressive through and through, a true anti-colonialist, a true fabian socialist.

Bush loved the system America is built on, but he did make decisions that were damaging to it. Obama hates the system America was built on, he finds it evil and unfair and makes no bones about it.

Bush based all his decisions on what he felt was for the good of the country, what he thought was for the good of the economy and free-market. Obama makes his decisions on what he believes is fair globally and puts the U.S in the back seat when making his decisions.

Bush, made mistakes but his biggest concern was the U.S.. Obama's last concern is the U.S. global fairness, social utopia is his only concern.

Great post

[Straw Man]

what does a "collapsed nation" look like

how does Obama and his cadre of communist co-conspirators benefit in the "post collapse" America

[MuscleMcMannus]

As if Obama was the first and last President that has been gutting and destroying the USA?     Fucking just about every President before him since the 60's has been destroying this country.  Republican and Democrat.  Reagan, Nixon, Clinton, Bush I/ Bush II, and now Obama.  They are all bought and paid for by corporations and banks. 

[Arnold jr]

what does a "collapsed nation" look like

how does Obama and his cadre of communist co-conspirators benefit in the "post collapse" America

He has everything to gain.

You're missing the point, no one is saying that "post collapse" America doesn't exist or anything. The point is to collapse the current system, that system being the one we've had for 200+ yrs and put a new one in it's place that is one of government reliance.

[Straw Man]

He has everything to gain.

You're missing the point, no one is saying that "post collapse" America doesn't exist or anything. The point is to collapse the current system, that system being the one we've had for 200+ yrs and put a new one in it's place that is one of government reliance.

I never suggested America wouldn't exist.  I asked what it would look like "post collapse"

I know most right wingers here think the health care legislation is part of his secret plan but we've had medicare/medicade for years and social security even longer.

The healthcare legislation is not going to change much, if anything other than hopefully stopping some of the most agregious abuses by insurance companies.

Other than heallcare what is going to cause this so called collapse and what exactly does Obama gain (other than going down in history as causing the aformentioned collapse)

[Arnold jr]

I never suggested America wouldn't exist.  I asked what it would look like "post collapse"

I know most right wingers here think the health care legislation is part of his secret plan but we've had medicare/medicade for years and social security even longer.

The healthcare legislation is not going to change much, if anything other than hopefully stopping some of the most agregious abuses by insurance companies.

Other than heallcare what is going to cause this so called collapse and what exactly does Obama gain (other than going down in history as causing the aformentioned collapse)

I don't think it's just "Right Wingers" that have a problem with all of this. Obama is continually losing support from independents and several who typically identify themselves as left-leaning.

The idea of all this is to take away responsibility from the individual and rest the responsibility on the shoulders of the government. The idea is to create what Obama views as "fair" in the realm of personal liberty. The idea is for others to decide how much you are allowed to have. The basic idea is to create a nanny state because the idea is "They know better than you."

The health care bill was the first big step towards all of this because you can put anything on this earth under "health care" that's why there are so many random things in that bill that really have nothing to do with health care. It's also going to destroy insurance companies, this has already started, it is slowly but surly making being in the business of selling health insurance completely unprofitable and guess what, as much as it pains some people to think insurance companies should earn a profit, the truth is they have to or they can't remain in business and provide insurance. Yes, there needs to be regulation but not at the expense of the industry altogether.