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Re: For Paker
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2010, 12:09:20 PM »
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Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2010, 01:26:50 PM »
$1400 for that windshield to be replaced back in the 70's.  My mom wanted one until she found out it was fiberglass. Ended up with a new 280Z
Actually they are made out of Kevlar, not fiberglass.  You could take a hammer to the body and there wouldn`t be much of a mark. (obviously depending on the amount of force, but you get the idea)

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Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2010, 01:37:58 PM »
Actually they are made out of Kevlar, not fiberglass.  You could take a hammer to the body and there wouldn`t be much of a mark. (obviously depending on the amount of force, but you get the idea)
You are incorrect the Esprit S3s -which is what is pictured were made out of fiberglass.

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Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2010, 01:43:54 PM »
You are incorrect the Esprit S1 and the S2s, which is what is pictured were made out of fiberglass.
After the Peter Stevens redesign all models of Esprit were Kevlar reinforced.  Hope this helps.

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Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2010, 01:45:18 PM »


http://www.lotusespritworld.com/EOtherstuff/VARI.html
VARI Process
by Lotus World Magazine
(no connection with Lotus Esprit World)

With the introduction of the new Stevens' body shape in 1987, a new process was introducted to make the GRP body. This is now formed by the VARI process (Vacuum Assisted Resin Injection). This offers many advantages over traditional hand lay-up but the most significant gain is that up to six bodies a day can be produced from one set of mould tools.

The process begins in the conventional way by coating a female mould with gelcoat. But instead of laying up with reinforcement material and resin, just the dry reinforcement material is positioned on the mould surface along with any polyurethane foam formers that are to be incorporated into the structure. In the case of the Esprit, much of this reinforcement is in the form of CFM (Continuous Filament Mat) but in specific areas woven glass material is employed.

To provide the necessary high strength for roll-over protection, Kevlar reinforcement is used for the roof pillars and sides and, to create a stiff torsion box in each sill, foam inserts are placed into the mould, wrapped in glass CFM. With all the reinforcement materials in place, an inner male mould with an air tight seal around its periphery is brought down under the female mould and bolted into place.

Now the Polyester resin matrix material can be added. A vacuum is applied and this draws resin into the mould cavity from several points. The resin is injected under low pressure and the whole process takes anything from several minutes for a small panel to about an hour for a bodyshell upper or lower half. The vacuum not only draws resin into the laminate evenly, but also clamps the two together.

Because the whole operation takes far less time than a hand lay-up process, faster curing times can be implemented and bodies released from the mould tools much sooner, thus allowing a quicker start to be made on the next car. Curing takes place at room temperature.

Other bonuses are a reduction in labour costs, and more uniform laminate thickness.

The Esprit bodyshell is moulded in two halves – the floor section/lower body, and the upper bodywork. Once released from the mould tools, these halves are joined together using a epoxide structural adhesive on the overlapping joint along the waistline of the car. This joint is reinforced in specific areas on the inside by overbonding with glass cloth. Finally, the bodyshell is painted, using two-pack polyurethane paint, and cured in the oven at 80°C.

Once bolted together, the body and chassis create a structure with almost double the torsional stiffness of the basic backbone chassis.

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Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2010, 01:46:31 PM »
cars getn small eh?

need soemthing lil bigger

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Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2010, 01:54:56 PM »
Actually they are made out of Kevlar, not fiberglass.  You could take a hammer to the body and there wouldn`t be much of a mark. (obviously depending on the amount of force, but you get the idea)

Back in the 70's I think it was fiberglass
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Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2010, 01:58:49 PM »
After the Peter Stevens redesign all models of Esprit were Kevlar reinforced.  Hope this helps.
You were still incorrect, due to what was pictured and you not stating that. Also Kevlar reinforced does not mean the the body itself was made entirely of Kevlar panels. For instance, the F40 used Kevlar and Carbonfiber, the XJ15 used and entirely Carbonfiber body and I believe the tub as well.

Per your article Kevlar is used to reinforced the pillars and sides, body still made out of a Polymer/glass fiber. Per your comment, you said that the car was made out of Kevlar...

Being used to reinforce the pillars and being made entirely out of Kevlar are two entirely diff things, hope this helps.

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Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2010, 02:04:35 PM »
You were still incorrect, due to what was pictured and you not stating that. Also Kevlar reinforced does not mean the the body itself was made entirely of Kevlar panels. For instance, the F40 used Kevlar and Carbonfiber, the XJ15 used and entirely Carbonfiber body and I believe the tub as well.

Per your article Kevlar is used to reinforced the pillars and sides, body still made out of a Polymer/glass fiber. Per your comment, you said that the car was made out of Kevlar...

Being used to reinforce the pillars and being made entirely out of Kevlar are two entirely diff things, hope this helps.

::)  I owned one and you didn`t.  ;)

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Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2010, 02:12:26 PM »
::)  I owned one and you didn`t.  ;)
Didnt you say you owned a Europa, and not a Esprit? You still were incorrect in what you said, as this was about the Esprit, and owning a Esprit or a Europa is no big deal. Esprits were known as the VW of supercar world, and you can pick up a aesthetically ugly Europa for cheap now, or the Esprit. Plagued with problems, they had trannies suspension systems from Renault and other cheap manufacturers. Also terrible British electronics. My aunt back in the day used to date a dude with a Europa, she called it ugly. He had said that the 944 she was going to get wouldn't amount to anything, yet it handled far better than the Europa and became a classic for Porsche.

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Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2010, 02:17:07 PM »
Getbigger car right here...stick shift plus 8 track..didn't listen to 8 track so kept condoms in there. One time a date looked in there and found my condoms. They were blue. From then on she called me "Big Blue". Good times.


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Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2010, 02:18:48 PM »
Getbigger car right here...stick shift plus 8 track..didn't listen to 8 track so kept condoms in there. One time a date looked in there and found my condoms. They were blue. From then on she called me "Big Blue". Good times.



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Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2010, 02:23:24 PM »
Ahhh, some cars you just can't forget.

some you should  :-X

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Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2010, 02:26:12 PM »
some you should  :-X
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Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2010, 02:27:22 PM »
whatever...this is what i drive

i call him kitt

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Re: 2013 Lotus Esprit
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2010, 02:31:48 PM »
whatever...this is what i drive

i call him kitt
Bet you pick up a lot of Katts...er, "Michael, Michael, that was a very bad joke, ejector seat engaged"