Generation Jobless

[affeman]

Outed! 

I can`t wait until this years furries convention at Santa Barbara.  I should be able to do about 80,000 alone in studded Leopard Costumes.

What's the name of your business?

[The True Adonis]

yes.....at the END of the war.

fact still remains it was not a quick ticket to a fighter plane as you are implying, it was a CIVILIAN pre-training flight school....you had to PASS it to get into fighter school.

It was the exact opposite of what you are saying...it was a screening process, and classified as one

ps....average age of a WW2 soldier was 26, not 18

It wasn`t difficult if you wanted to learn either.  Imagine how that would "fly" today.  It wouldn`t.  My point is, if someone is willing to learn and the desire is there, protocol should go out the window.  Hire the best person for the job, not the one who looks good only on paper.

Vince Goodrum has more qualification in Nutiriton and Exercise than you and I do and most everyone on this site.  Does that means he knows more than us?

[The True Adonis]

What's the name of your business?

Cock Rings and Things.  Kind of like Linens and Things.

[unracked]

Jezebelle and I work together, Self Employed.  High End Leather Antiquing for High End goods. Started as a hobby about 5 years ago and has really grown.

Translation: TA and his sister Jizzimbelle sell used crap on e-bay.

[BayGBM]

It's bad in north Florida also but nothing compared to down there your way.

Networking will always be the best way to get a job. It's how I got mine and it's how I got my brother his. It's not what you know, it's WHO you know- you can bank on that shit. I have a degree from a respectable college but I beat out several other grads with masters and more experience lol

I would agree with this.  The person I hired last year came to my attention based on a reference from someone else I was serving on a committee with.  Lots of people applied for that job, but they didn’t stand a chance.  We did something similar this year only this time the job was already taken by the time we posted it because we decided to promote from within.  Still, we were required to post the job.  Those applicants were all wasting their time.

Most of the hiring I do now requires candidates to have a master’s degree at a minimum though degrees alone are not enough.  When I began my career in higher education, I applied for a professor job across the country.  I got that job, but I later learned that more than 200 people had applied for the job.  I was their second choice; their first choice turned down the job offer… so then they came to me.

Young people today need to arm themselves with a skill that they can put to work in almost any economic climate.  For some people this will be a physical skill like carpentry… for others it will be an intellectual skill.  Young people also need to take control of their own destiny and be more entrepreneurial.  Stop waiting for someone else to hire you and hire yourself into some kind of work that you have identified a need or space for.  As I look at the profiles of these unemployed people http://www.latimes.com/business/unemployment/ none of them are ones I would want to hire.  Most of them act like passive victims.  This is not the sort of person I want working for me.

If I were fired tomorrow, the first thing I would do is pick up the phone and tap my network of contacts: friends, head hunters, etc.  Then I would tap my spouse’s, network.  Then I would go back to some of the consulting work I did years ago working with students and parents for $5k per student... though now I would up my fee to $7k per student.  The point is, I would be taking action… not just sitting around and waiting for the economy to get better or for someone else to solve my employment problem.

Edit: I would hire that Hugh Walker guy.  Great attitude. The rest of those people profiled... I would not hire.

[Soul Crusher]

I would agree with this.  The person I hired last year came to my attention based on a reference from someone else I was serving on a committee with.  Lots of people applied for that job, but they didn’t stand a chance.  We did something similar this year only this time the job was already taken by the time we posted it because we decided to promote from within.  Still, we were required to post the job.  Those applicants were all wasting their time.

Most of the hiring I do now requires candidates to have a master’s degree at a minimum though degrees alone are not enough.  When I began my career in higher education, I applied for a professor job across the country.  I got that job, but I later learned that more than 200 people had applied for the job.  I was their second choice; their first choice turned down the job offer… so then they came to me.

Young people today need to arm themselves with a skill that they can put to work in almost any economic climate.  For some people this will be a physical skill like carpentry… for others it will be an intellectual skill.  Young people also need to take control of their own destiny and be more entrepreneurial.  Stop waiting for someone else to hire you and hire yourself into some kind of work that you have identified a need or space for.  As I look at the profiles of these unemployed people http://www.latimes.com/business/unemployment/ none of them are ones I would want to hire.  Most of them act like passive victims.  This is not the sort of person I want working for me.

If I were fired tomorrow, the first thing I would do is pick up the phone and tap my network of contacts: friends, head hunters, etc.  Then I would tap my spouse’s, network.  Then I would go back to some of the consulting work I did years ago working with students and parents for $5k per student... though now I would up my fee to $7k per student.  The point is, I would be taking action… not just sitting around and waiting for the economy to get better or for someone else to solve my employment problem.

Edit: I would hire that Hugh Walker guy.  Great attitude. The rest of those people profiled... I would not hire.

You mean Peggy & Julio are not going to get hooked up? 

[The True Adonis]

I would agree with this.  The person I hired last year came to my attention based on a reference from someone else I was serving on a committee with.  Lots of people applied for that job, but they didn’t stand a chance.  We did something similar this year only this time the job was already taken by the time we posted it because we decided to promote from within.  Still, we were required to post the job.  Those applicants were all wasting their time.

Most of the hiring I do now requires candidates to have a master’s degree at a minimum though degrees alone are not enough.  When I began my career in higher education, I applied for a professor job across the country.  I got that job, but I later learned that more than 200 people had applied for the job.  I was their second choice; their first choice turned down the job offer… so then they came to me.

Young people today need to arm themselves with a skill that they can put to work in almost any economic climate.  For some people this will be a physical skill like carpentry… for others it will be an intellectual skill.  Young people also need to take control of their own destiny and be more entrepreneurial.  Stop waiting for someone else to hire you and hire yourself into some kind of work that you have identified a need or space for.  As I look at the profiles of these unemployed people http://www.latimes.com/business/unemployment/ none of them are ones I would want to hire.  Most of them act like passive victims.  This is not the sort of person I want working for me.

If I were fired tomorrow, the first thing I would do is pick up the phone and tap my network of contacts: friends, head hunters, etc.  Then I would tap my spouse’s, network.  Then I would go back to some of the consulting work I did years ago working with students and parents for $5k per student... though now I would up my fee to $7k per student.  The point is, I would be taking action… not just sitting around and waiting for the economy to get better or for someone else to solve my employment problem.

If you were hiring for a job and two people came in.  One was a twink which resembled me and my bodytype and the other was a 55 year old GH abusing (large hands nose and head) hair Bear Pig man with a ruddy complexion, which would you hire all experience and "qualifications" being equal?

[unracked]

I would agree with this.  The person I hired last year came to my attention based on a reference from someone else I was serving on a committee with.  Lots of people applied for that job, but they didn’t stand a chance.  We did something similar this year only this time the job was already taken by the time we posted it because we decided to promote from within.  Still, we were required to post the job.  Those applicants were all wasting their time.

Most of the hiring I do now requires candidates to have a master’s degree at a minimum though degrees alone are not enough.  When I began my career in higher education, I applied for a professor job across the country.  I got that job, but I later learned that more than 200 people had applied for the job.  I was their second choice; their first choice turned down the job offer… so then they came to me.

Young people today need to arm themselves with a skill that they can put to work in almost any economic climate.  For some people this will be a physical skill like carpentry… for others it will be an intellectual skill.  Young people also need to take control of their own destiny and be more entrepreneurial.  Stop waiting for someone else to hire you and hire yourself into some kind of work that you have identified a need or space for.  As I look at the profiles of these unemployed people http://www.latimes.com/business/unemployment/ none of them are ones I would want to hire.  Most of them act like passive victims.  This is not the sort of person I want working for me.

If I were fired tomorrow, the first thing I would do is pick up the phone and tap my network of contacts: friends, head hunters, etc.  Then I would tap my spouse’s, network.  Then I would go back to some of the consulting work I did years ago working with students and parents for $5k per student... though now I would up my fee to $7k per student.  The point is, I would be taking action… not just sitting around and waiting for the economy to get better or for someone else to solve my employment problem.

Edit: I would hire that Hugh Walker guy.  Great attitude. The rest of those people profiled... I would not hire.

O.K. Mr. CEO.   

[The True Adonis]

I would agree with this.  The person I hired last year came to my attention based on a reference from someone else I was serving on a committee with.  Lots of people applied for that job, but they didn’t stand a chance.  We did something similar this year only this time the job was already taken by the time we posted it because we decided to promote from within.  Still, we were required to post the job.  Those applicants were all wasting their time.

Most of the hiring I do now requires candidates to have a master’s degree at a minimum though degrees alone are not enough.  When I began my career in higher education, I applied for a professor job across the country.  I got that job, but I later learned that more than 200 people had applied for the job.  I was their second choice; their first choice turned down the job offer… so then they came to me.

Young people today need to arm themselves with a skill that they can put to work in almost any economic climate.  For some people this will be a physical skill like carpentry… for others it will be an intellectual skill.  Young people also need to take control of their own destiny and be more entrepreneurial.  Stop waiting for someone else to hire you and hire yourself into some kind of work that you have identified a need or space for.  As I look at the profiles of these unemployed people http://www.latimes.com/business/unemployment/ none of them are ones I would want to hire.  Most of them act like passive victims.  This is not the sort of person I want working for me.

If I were fired tomorrow, the first thing I would do is pick up the phone and tap my network of contacts: friends, head hunters, etc.  Then I would tap my spouse’s, network.  Then I would go back to some of the consulting work I did years ago working with students and parents for $5k per student... though now I would up my fee to $7k per student.  The point is, I would be taking action… not just sitting around and waiting for the economy to get better or for someone else to solve my employment problem.

Edit: I would hire that Hugh Walker guy.  Great attitude. The rest of those people profiled... I would not hire.

I`d bet you`d hire Eddie Fucking Moyzan in a heartbeat without an interview.

[unracked]

Bay is the kind of guy that believes he has "job security." 

[buffdnet]

this is how is should be.

not the exploitative, criminal racket we now have under the fancy-sounding name of 'free market capitalism'  

the problem is the monetary system. no where on a dolla bill
does it say one usa dollar. it's says federal reserve note.
which is debt. backed by the government in the form of a worthless
paper called treasury bills and bonds. ultimately then with a monetary system based on air,
corruption will be involved in all aspects of life as all aspects involve/require money.
3 things run this world. big business, big government and the inter relations of the two.
socialism under any monetary system will fair no better than we are now. it's been tried n failed. money is debt money breeds corruption. the alternative is not a society our brains
can get wrapped around.
yet
like bodybuilding, no rocket science required. or cut n paste.

[buffdnet]

Bay is the kind of guy that believes he has "job security." 

short lived one if we are lucky and got ammo

[BayGBM]

I`d bet you`d hire Eddie Fucking Moyzan in a heartbeat without an interview.

Jealous much? 

Green is not your color. 

[Voice of Doom]

On another front...Gold and Silver up again!

 

[Ex Coelis]

I'm rejoining in 12 days.

Civvy life is shit.

I've thought about leaving when my contract expires in a couple years but I honestly don't know what I'd do civvy side or whether I could make the transition back to the real world

with Canada's mission in Afghanistan winding down I don't want to stick around if there isn't a war to fight - jumping out of planes and helicopters is fun but it gets old doing training exercises and firing blanks especially after experiencing real combat

hopefully we'll deploy elsewhere but it's hard to say

on the other hand I shouldn't really complain because we do get paid well - comparable to other government workers

sometimes I want to leave it all and start a family and live a real life

right now all I care about is getting back overseas

[JOHN MATRIX]

the problem is the monetary system. no where on a dolla bill
does it say one usa dollar. it's says federal reserve note.
which is debt. backed by the government in the form of a worthless
paper called treasury bills and bonds. ultimately then with a monetary system based on air,
corruption will be involved in all aspects of life as all aspects involve/require money.
3 things run this world. big business, big government and the inter relations of the two.
socialism under any monetary system will fair no better than we are now. it's been tried n failed. money is debt money breeds corruption. the alternative is not a society our brains
can get wrapped around.
yet
like bodybuilding, no rocket science required. or cut n paste.

this is the truth

[noworries]

No.  I believe in eliminating the charade and hiring on the spot, first come first serve, filling jobs for those who need or want to work. 

That is why you aren't involved in corporate america or have employees.  Eevryone wants to work and those who don't work need work.  If I am building a house and need an electrician I am NOT hiring some guy who doesn't know what the fuck he is doing just because he is out of work or wants a job.  See your ignorance shines at times.  Also, you think this way for simple reason.  You don't a resume.  you don't have anything to put on a resume.  Your schooling waslimited to community college.  you worked at the water department.  I proved and exhibited all this on getbig a few years ago.  Somewhere it is on here.  Of course you would think this way since you would have a hard time finding a job.  Just like Goodrum but even worse.  He at least has some experince in some things.  He just gets fired because after a month or so they discover he doesn't really know anything he told them he knew.  That is why he has been fired from every job he ever had.

[Trapper_Slapper]

I've thought about leaving when my contract expires in a couple years but I honestly don't know what I'd do civvy side or whether I could make the transition back to the real world

with Canada's mission in Afghanistan winding down I don't want to stick around if there isn't a war to fight - jumping out of planes and helicopters is fun but it gets old doing training exercises and firing blanks especially after experiencing real combat

hopefully we'll deploy elsewhere but it's hard to say

on the other hand I shouldn't really complain because we do get paid well - comparable to other government workers

sometimes I want to leave it all and start a family and live a real life

right now all I care about is getting back overseas

I've been trying to figure out what the hell your career is in the military for the past year and a half but you only give need to know info in your posts. Sounds like combat control(Air Force term) to me or some type of Ranger variant for Canada. I'm looking into crosstraining out my current field to take a hack at the USAF Pararescue pipeline.

How long you been in? How does the high tempo lifestyle effect your personal life? To stay somewhat on subject, civvy life does = shit....at least right now it does...

[Lundgren]

I've thought about leaving when my contract expires in a couple years but I honestly don't know what I'd do civvy side or whether I could make the transition back to the real world

with Canada's mission in Afghanistan winding down I don't want to stick around if there isn't a war to fight - jumping out of planes and helicopters is fun but it gets old doing training exercises and firing blanks especially after experiencing real combat

hopefully we'll deploy elsewhere but it's hard to say

on the other hand I shouldn't really complain because we do get paid well - comparable to other government workers

sometimes I want to leave it all and start a family and live a real life

right now all I care about is getting back overseas

Hopefully you get deployed somewhere else. Lol dude your fucking retard. Canada won't be going no where for a long time.

[YngiweRhoads]

Hopefully you get deployed somewhere else. Lol dude your fucking retard. Canada won't be going no where for a long time.

Peace keeping mission in Quebec.

[leadhead]

You defintly make a strong point right there... If you have the right connections, your set... Sooooo many people get the jobs because they know someone, and not because of what they know or what they can do. Its a shitty world we live in when you know you are higly qualified for a job and someone else gets it because they happen to know eachother... Cold, but fair........

Actually I should have explained this in further detail. Plainly, my B.S. from a respectable school was on level with their M.S. degrees as was told to me after I got the job. My advanced skill set in one area also trumped their's but they had more overall relevant experience in the field. I was told from management that anything higher than a B.S. in my field was insignificant unless it was a from a respectable school and it still then wasn't a large factor hiring someone.

This still doesn't devalue my point that the real reason I had my resume looked at was because that I was well connected with upper management though. Networking is crucial

[Rami]

the army is always recruiting

man-up dumb down

fixed

[ManBearPig...]

That is why you aren't involved in corporate america or have employees.  Eevryone wants to work and those who don't work need work.  If I am building a house and need an electrician I am NOT hiring some guy who doesn't know what the fuck he is doing just because he is out of work or wants a job.  See your ignorance shines at times.  Also, you think this way for simple reason.  You don't a resume.  you don't have anything to put on a resume.  Your schooling waslimited to community college.  you worked at the water department.  I proved and exhibited all this on getbig a few years ago.  Somewhere it is on here.  Of course you would think this way since you would have a hard time finding a job.  Just like Goodrum but even worse.  He at least has some experince in some things.  He just gets fired because after a month or so they discover he doesn't really know anything he told them he knew.  That is why he has been fired from every job he ever had.

LOL, relentless, but i'll support it cuz Vincenzo shrugs it off and you keep it funny.

[Hulkster]

It depends solely on what you are hiring for and what type of job it is.

Obviously I`m not going to hire an armless midget to swing a hammer on the rail line, but he would be a perfect fit in my traveling circus.

Hiring someone is more than a stupid hour long face to face interview or a sheet of paper with pointless "credentials".

true, but keep in mind that most 'good' positions are not filled after a single quick interview.

when I was hired for my position in the water/wastewater treatment industry, the competition was crazy.

they had us do several panel interviews, reference checks, police background checks and competentcy exams.

you also had to state who you felt was better, Dorian or Ronnie.

[Hulkster]

I also agree that it is hardest for those who are middle aged who are laid off.

I have a family member who was let go after 12 years of management with a huge company and another friend from school who is an egineer who was let go from his firm from downsizing.

even though Canada didn't get hit as badly as the States, there are still a lot of jobless people out there.