Gh15 or BFG...Olympia stack in MD

[Wiggs]

I know the dosages are not accurate at all but is this about the extent of what pros take for a show?

I didn't read the article as it was in last months MD...My buddy asked me about it and yesterday I found a thread on MD about it...



    Muscular Development October 2010 By. Dan Gwartney, M.D.

    Weeks 16-9:
    Anabolics:
    Test E - 1600mg/wk
    Nandrolone Decanote- 600mg/wk
    Tren A - 150mg/wk
    Oxandrolone - 20mg/day
    HCG - 400iu/wk
    hgh - 6iu/day
    IGF1 - 80mcg/every other day
    Insulin - 6 to 10 iu post workout

    Fat Reduction:
    Ephedrine/Caffine - 50/400 mg /day
    Armour Thyroid Extract - 1.5grains/day
    Arimidex - 0.5mg/every other day
    Teslac: 50mg/day

    Adjunct Drugs:
    finastride-2mgs/day
    lisinopril - 5mg/day

    Weeks 8-3
    Test E - 600mgs/wk
    Tren A - 150mg/wk
    Methenolone enathate - 600mg/wk
    stanozolo tabs- 40mg/day
    anadriol oral - 240mg/day
    hcg - 250iu/wk
    hgh: 4iu/day
    igf1 - 80mcg/day
    insulin 6iu with meal after morning cardio
    insulin 6 iu with post workout

    Fatloss:
    Ephedrine/caffeine - 75/500
    Clen - 2tabs/"on day" (2on2off cycle)
    armour tyroid extract: 1.25 grains/day
    cytomel: 25mcg/day
    arimidex: 1mg/day alternate w/ .5mg/day
    teslac: 100mgs/day

    ajd drugs:
    lisinopril 10mgs/day
    viagra as needed

    week2 - day 4
    test e - 200mg (week 2 only)
    tren A - 150mg (week 2 only)
    win V inject - 100mg/day
    methenolone enanthate - 600mg/wk
    winstrol oral - 80mg/day
    oxandrolone - 20mgs/day
    hgh - 3iu/day
    insulin: 4 iu with morning meal after cardio
    insulin: 4 iu post wokrout

    Fatloss
    Eph/caf - 75/500 mg/day
    clen: 3tabs/day
    armour thyroid ext: 1 grain/day
    cytomel: 50mcg/day
    Arimidex: 1mg/day
    teslac 150mg/day

    adj drugs
    lisinopril: 12.5mg/day

    Day 3-0
    primo A oral - 250mg/day
    winstrol v orial - 50mgs/day
    hgh: 2iu/day

    Fatloss:
    ephedrine/caffine - 50/200 mg/day
    clen - 4 tabs/day
    arimidex 1mg/day
    teslac 150mg/day
    cytomel: 100 mcg/day

    waterloss
    aldactone: 100mg/day
    dyazide: 1tab pm (day 1) 1 tab am (day 2)

    Site Enhancement;
    generally discouraged, use not uncommon

[Wiggs]

In before...."yes, but multiply everything x 3"

[Fatpanda]

fuck taking all that 

what happened to taking a few dbol's and eating a lot 

[Wiggs]

fuck taking all that 

what happened to taking a few dbol's and eating a lot 

Mr. Basil is from a different era...lol

[Captain Equipoise]

LOL @ the dosages, also deca and test E before a contest?!?! not bloody likely.

[JimmyJam1974]

Mr. Basil is from a different era...lol

One fuctup sub culture

[G_Thang]

 

that's more shit than in phar or chem lab. 

 

[tendonitis]

it would take a big fridge to hold that much gear

[HERACLES]

Enanthate literally a couple of weeks out?? Intersting..

[Wiggs]

I'm surprised Bleckman has the balls to put it in the mag and call it the Olympia Stack.

[StanZoLOL]

Enanthate literally a couple of weeks out?? Intersting..

Would it be an issue with enough AI?

Also 1600mg might not be too far off on the test for some of the smaller guys. Remember that's ~ an amp a day of human grade. Still a shitload. And don't get me wrong, I know most are taking a lot more.

[Captain Equipoise]

Would it be an issue with enough AI?

Also 1600mg might not be too far off on the test for some of the smaller guys. Remember that's ~ an amp a day of human grade. Still a shitload. And don't get me wrong, I know most are taking a lot more.

Either way I'm calling bullshit on the enanthate and deca, no sane person would take that within 12 weeks of a contest..

[Fatpanda]

Either way I'm calling bullshit on the enanthate and deca, no sane person would take that within 12 weeks of a contest..

hahahahahahaha yes i will listen to your advice on steroids.

you are a real monster after all hahahahahahaha

[StanZoLOL]

Either way I'm calling bullshit on the enanthate and deca, no sane person would take that within 12 weeks of a contest..

I see what you are saying. The 150mg a WEEK of Tren Ace sets off the BS alarm for me. It would be fairly difficult to even dose that. Half a ml every other day or something.  

[Van_Bilderass]

Either way I'm calling bullshit on the enanthate and deca, no sane person would take that within 12 weeks of a contest..

Plenty of high level guys do and that's a fact.

In any case this is a very suboptimal cycle IMO. Even if mg's were kept the same there's better products and combos to use. To me it sounds like Dan Gwartney talked to some amateur in the 90s and then it became a pro stack in 2010.

[StanZoLOL]

Plenty of high level guys do and that's a fact.

In any case this is a very suboptimal cycle IMO. Even if mg's were kept the same there's better products and combos to use. To me it sounds like Dan Gwartney talked to some amateur in the 90s and then it became a pro stack in 2010.

Right, typical ghostwritten garbage.

The gh/slin are obviously ridiculously low, too. Much more so than the test.

[American Muscle]

To me it sounds like Dan Gwartney talked to some amateur in the 90s and then it became a pro stack in 2010.

Hahaha

[Van_Bilderass]

The gh/slin are obviously ridiculously low, too. Much more so than the test.

Yes. GH is basically always as high as one can afford.

Trenbolone also is rarely used at that low a dosage by anyone. Primo isn't that popular either. I wonder if anyone really bothers with Andriol? Milos said this was a Halo substitute last week or so but I doubt it's popular.

[clued-up]

Plenty of high level guys do and that's a fact.

Enanthate + letro = no problem.

[Captain Equipoise]

Plenty of high level guys do and that's a fact.

In any case this is a very suboptimal cycle IMO. Even if mg's were kept the same there's better products and combos to use. To me it sounds like Dan Gwartney talked to some amateur in the 90s and then it became a pro stack in 2010.

No they don't dude..

name one major competitor that uses deca or enanthate before a contest, it's unheard of and retarded

[Captain Equipoise]

hahahahahahaha yes i will listen to your advice on steroids.

you are a real monster after all hahahahahahaha

Yeah we should all listen to your 600lb lard ass instead..

[Stavios]

No they don't dude..

name one major competitor that uses deca or enanthate before a contest, it's unheard of and retarded

I know for a fact that one CRAZY RIPPED national competitior does.

I was on test enanthate and Deca in this photo (I know I am not a "major competitor") but I was pretty lean.
I think the letrozole took care of the water very well

[Van_Bilderass]

No they don't dude..

name one major competitor that uses deca or enanthate before a contest, it's unheard of and retarded

I can't name any I know personally since I won't air anyone's personal business they didn't choose to put out there themselves. I do know of a couple of pros and countless amateurs who use enanthate all the way up to the show. Sustanon, this "water retaining" product, is also popular all the way up to the show, for example in the Middle Eastern countries and these guys get crazy hard. EQ is more popular than Deca, but Deca is not uncommon during first part of that 12 week period. Many use NPP in the belief that it causes less water retention but it's still the same hormone.

As far as what's made public by others, refer to Palumbo's recs. Long acting test all the way up to the show.

Here's a post by the late Dave Jacobs. Nandrolone the last 5 weeks, long acting test up to 5 weeks out.

If you want to take up and total up all mgs of gear then yes there are many who do up to close to and over 5g of gear on a weekly basis.

For example.  I know someone who did the following for the Olympia last year:

Test - 2.5g weekly (long acting at start then 5 weeks out switching to prop and phenyl prop)
EQ - 600mg Weekly
Durabolin - 700 mg Weekly (last 5 weeks pre contest)
Winstrol - 350mg weekly (last 5 weeks pre contest)
Masteron - 350mg Weekly (last 5 weeks pre contest)
Proviron - 700mg Weekly (100mg daily)
Halotestin - 210mg Weekly (30mg daily) (Last 5 weeks pre contest)
Nolvadex - 210mg Weekly (30mg Daily)
Anavar - 420mg weekly (60mg daily)

not calculated
10iu HgH daily
25mcg IGF1 - Daily

So that in itself gives you 6040mg or 6.04 grams per week.

I think that is on the very high end and for a big show.  A normal "off season" cycle would not have near that much stuff in it.

[Captain Equipoise]

I can't name any I know personally since I won't air anyone's personal business they didn't choose to put out there themselves. I do know of a couple of pros and countless amateurs who use enanthate all the way up to the show. Sustanon, this "water retaining" product, is also popular all the way up to the show, for example in the Middle Eastern countries and these guys get crazy hard. EQ is more popular than Deca, but Deca is not uncommon during first part of that 12 week period. Many use NPP in the belief that it causes less water retention but it's still the same hormone.

As far as what's made public by others, refer to Palumbo's recs. Long acting test all the way up to the show.

Here's a post by the late Dave Jacobs. Nandrolone the last 5 weeks, long acting test up to 5 weeks out.

For example.  I know someone who did the following for the Olympia last year:

Test - 2.5g weekly (long acting at start then 5 weeks out switching to prop and phenyl prop)
EQ - 600mg Weekly
Durabolin - 700 mg Weekly (last 5 weeks pre contest)
Winstrol - 350mg weekly (last 5 weeks pre contest)
Masteron - 350mg Weekly (last 5 weeks pre contest)
Proviron - 700mg Weekly (100mg daily)
Halotestin - 210mg Weekly (30mg daily) (Last 5 weeks pre contest)
Nolvadex - 210mg Weekly (30mg Daily)
Anavar - 420mg weekly (60mg daily)

not calculated
10iu HgH daily
25mcg IGF1 - Daily

[Van_Bilderass]

That sounds about right. I glanced over the cycle of one pro (sent to a friend of his on same supp label) who isn't top tier but very well known (an 'animal' known for his arms/forearms, haha ) and it was definitely in there.

A smart competitor certainly uses top HG long acting test instead of UG prop, if for example they can't get Testovis or Virormone. Many do think they have to switch to prop instead of enanthate because that's what "everyone does". I just don't think the enanthate is a problem in getting dry in most cases. It's like thinking Anadrol can't be used pre-contest because it makes you bloated and is an "off-season drug".

5 weeks out switching to prop and phenyl prop)

If you've been blasting 2.5 grams of Enanthate how long do you think it will be active after you stop? Levels will be higher than in Gwartney's example of a mere 200mg in the end.