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"Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« on: October 18, 2010, 07:39:31 AM »
Colorado Senate candidates Michael Bennet and Ken Buck appeared on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday, where they challenged each other on their past statements and were called to account for controversial comments they have made.

Republican Ken Buck denied that he was out of the mainstream, clarifying his position on the 17th Amendment and saying that he has often been misinterpreted. However, he gave a strange answer when host David Gregory pressed him to explain his views on homosexuality. In the past, for example, he has said he supports Don't Ask, Don't Tell because the military should be "as homogeneous as possible."

On Sunday, Buck made clear that he believes being gay is a choice, although he said that birth may have some "influence" over it -- such as with alcoholism:
GREGORY: Do you believe that being gay is a choice?


BUCK: I do.

GREGORY: Based on what?

BUCK: Based on what? I guess you can choose who your partner is.

GREGORY: You don't think it's something that's determined at birth?


BUCK: I think that birth has an influence over it, like alcoholism and some other things, but I think that basically, you have a choice.


According to all major mainstream medical and mental health professional organizations, sexual orientation is not a choice. As the American Psychological Association has concluded, "[M]ost people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation."

Gregory also pressed Buck about his refusal to follow up on rape allegations involving a University of North Colorado student in 2005, while he was Weld County District Attorney. Buck declined to file criminal charges against the alleged victim's attacker on the belief that not enough evidence existed to win the case, a conclusion that is not entirely rare with such delicate cases.

Controversy has erupted over some of Buck's newly resurfaced remarks, including his comments to The Greeley Tribune that a jury may simply conclude it was a case of her "buyer's remorse." In an audio recording obtained by The Huffington Post, Buck told the victim, "It appears to me and it appears to others that you invited him over to have sex with him," before acknowledging she may have been unconscious at the time.

On "Meet the Press" on Sunday, Buck said he had no regrets over what he told the victim, saying she needed a dose of "reality":
GREGORY: Do you regret using those words, and whether you think women should give some weight to those issues in deciding to vote for you?


BUCK: I think women, as well as men, are concerned about jobs and the economy and spending and other issues. ... Rape case came into our office, it was reviewed by an attorney -- a prosecutor -- with 30 years prosecutorial experience who's now on the Colorado Court of Appeals. He declined to prosecute. Two female chief deputies reviewed the case, talked witnesses -- they declined to prosecute. Case went to another chief deputy who had handled many of the high-profile rape cases in the Denver metro area. He declined to prosecute. I met with this young lady, explained the circumstances. I then sent the case to the Boulder County District Attorney's office for Boulder County because they had a lot of experience with date rape as a result of the University of Colorado being in that county. They declined to prosecute and told me the case couldn't be prosecuted. It was after the young lady made this case public that I had to explain to the newspaper exactly --

GREGORY: But you regret either the way you talked to her or talked about the case??

BUCK: I don't regret the way I talked to her. I think it is important a prosecutor approach a victim with a certain amount of reality, and that's what I tried to do with this victim. I didn't blame her at all.

GREGORY: So what about what you told The Greeley Tribune?

BUCK: What I told The Greeley Tribune -- I gave them five or six reasons why I thought a jury could decline these. One of the reasons was the fact that she had regretted this relationship. She had buyer's remorse as a result of the relationship that she had with this young man. That is something that I think, when someone decides to make a case public, the public has to understand why.




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/17/colorado-senate-debate-ken-buck-gay-alcoholism_n_765670.html

Seriously, how can people in 2010 still be so stupid? especially a politician..
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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2010, 07:43:21 AM »
LOL
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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2010, 07:43:52 AM »

those homersexuals are masters of media manipulation. much like the jews.
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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2010, 07:44:15 AM »
Begs the question, how could you be so naive about politicians intelligence?

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2010, 07:48:34 AM »
homosexuality has no place on a bodybuilding board.

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2010, 07:48:46 AM »
Ha! You just know these two guys are so gonna get busted for soliciting airport bathroom sex in the near future. It's a given. Never fails.

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2010, 07:49:43 AM »
It's a given.

Id say he was the taker.

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2010, 07:50:23 AM »
homosexuality has no place on a bodybuilding board.

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2010, 07:52:39 AM »

;D



Bay, serious question, to the nearest tenth roughly, how many different cocks have you taken in the rear? (no homo)

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2010, 07:52:50 AM »
technically it is a CHOICE like alcoholism,.........as much as those things can be a choice


we MAY very well be genetically predisposed to things, for example one person might be more apt to become an alcoholic, and another may be more apt to be attracted to males and have sex with men




but at the end of the day, it IS a choice...........getting cancer is NOT a choice, being born black is NOT a choice

but you do have to make a conscious decision to have a drink, or suck a cock

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2010, 07:56:17 AM »
technically it is a CHOICE like alcoholism,.........as much as those things can be a choice


we MAY very well be genetically predisposed to things, for example one person might be more apt to become an alcoholic, and another may be more apt to be attracted to males and have sex with men




but at the end of the day, it IS a choice...........getting cancer is NOT a choice, being born black is NOT a choice

but you do have to make a conscious decision to have a drink, or suck a cock

what if you're dying of thirst?

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2010, 07:57:14 AM »
yeah but you dont need to practise sexual acts with men to be homosexual offcourse.

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2010, 08:05:13 AM »
technically it is a CHOICE like alcoholism,.........as much as those things can be a choice


we MAY very well be genetically predisposed to things, for example one person might be more apt to become an alcoholic, and another may be more apt to be attracted to males and have sex with men




but at the end of the day, it IS a choice...........getting cancer is NOT a choice, being born black is NOT a choice

but you do have to make a conscious decision to have a drink, or suck a cock

I don't recall the moment I decided my babysitter was hot, or that Farrah Fawcett was hotter than the 6 million dollar man. I just can't ever recall having to decide that I was attracted to women instead of men. I'm told by some gay friends/co workers of mine that they can't recall ever having to decide, it just always was the same for them..


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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2010, 08:07:42 AM »
technically it is a CHOICE like alcoholism,.........as much as those things can be a choice


we MAY very well be genetically predisposed to things, for example one person might be more apt to become an alcoholic, and another may be more apt to be attracted to males and have sex with men




but at the end of the day, it IS a choice...........getting cancer is NOT a choice, being born black is NOT a choice

but you do have to make a conscious decision to have a drink, or suck a cock

This.

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2010, 08:18:29 AM »
From a lifestyle perspective it could be considered a choice but you would be fighting against neurological instinct to oppose that urge.

Just as would be the case if i started dating asian girls but only found blonde swedish whores attractive. It's like art or music, it's entirely subjective.

It's very clearly not a choice in the traditional sense, i don't think anyone would choose to be gay given the choice.
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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2010, 08:22:39 AM »
From a lifestyle perspective it could be considered a choice but you would be fighting against neurological instinct to oppose that urge.

Just as would be the case if i started dating asian girls but only found blonde swedish whores attractive. It's like art or music, it's entirely subjective.

It's very clearly not a choice in the traditional sense, i don't think anyone would choose to be gay given the choice.

We all fight neurological instincts on a daily basis.  From the most basic of "I'm hungry, that guy has food, I'll take it" to "she is pretty, I'm going to procreate with her right here in the parking lot"  We are all born with certain survival instincts, but a lot of who we are is learned.

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2010, 08:23:30 AM »
but what is a choice here is that some homosexuals choose to be ultra gay in the sense that they dont behave like men anymore and stand on a parade boat in amsterdam acting disgustingly. something that provokes violence against them too.

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2010, 08:32:34 AM »
Bay, serious question, to the nearest tenth roughly, how many different cocks have you taken in the rear? (no homo)

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2010, 08:39:22 AM »
saturday i ended up in a gay bar with a few women. truly happend.
everything else was closed in the city and we still wanted to drink something, haha oh lord. gayer than treating women with respect.

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2010, 08:40:32 AM »
saturday i ended up in a gay bar with a few women. truly happend.
everything else was closed in the city and we still wanted to drink something, haha oh lord. gayer than treating women with respect.

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #20 on: October 18, 2010, 08:43:03 AM »
Quit lying, you've never left the room your computer sits in

maybe he has a laptop?

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #21 on: October 18, 2010, 08:43:57 AM »
haha im on the computer a lot mainly for work and getbig offcourse but in the weekends im still all party.

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2010, 08:44:45 AM »
I call B.S. When me and my brother were less than 10 our cousin of a similar age was always "different". Even as a child you know. It may be a choice for someone on the fence but some are seriously born homosexual.
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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2010, 08:46:05 AM »
its the same with guys and girls who know from an early age on they sit in the wrong body.

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Re: "Homosexuality is a choice like alcoholism"
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2010, 08:47:17 AM »
technically it is a CHOICE like alcoholism,.........as much as those things can be a choice


we MAY very well be genetically predisposed to things, for example one person might be more apt to become an alcoholic, and another may be more apt to be attracted to males and have sex with men




but at the end of the day, it IS a choice...........getting cancer is NOT a choice, being born black is NOT a choice

but you do have to make a conscious decision to have a drink, or suck a cock

Once again UN_$ung is entirely right. No one forcees a gay to be a fag, act like a fag, or do sex acts with men. To argue otherwise would be to justify what peodifiles say - "oh its just natural and I could not help what I did".

Every gay, fag, and kiddyfucker makes a conscious decision to do it - simple as that.