That Calorie is a Calorie Thing

[no one]

Ok....look, most on here know you're as dumb as a box of rocks........that being said (and I SOOO clearly remember this from when this ridiculous "debate" started 2-3 years ago) you said macros didn't matter as long as calories are low.....now you're back tracking and saying "a macro is not a macro". That being said you advocate stuffing yourself (a little exaggeration) with cake as if it were a potato, yam or brown rice (yes, there is a difference). Fuck TA, if I recall it wasn't too long ago that Mindspin offered to set up a face to face debate with Dr. Connely for a debate and I even offered to set one up with John Berardi and you made excuses to not come even though it would have basically been a paid vacation for you to the West coast to one of the richest and most beautiful cities here. Give it up dude, you're not fooling anyone....exept fatpanda and wavelength.

^ this.

again let me be clear- ^ THIS. all of it. every sentence.

[Meso_z]

''Diet has always been as important, if not more important than weight-training for bodybuilders. However, in his book Heavy Duty Nutrition, Mentzer demonstrated that nutrition for athletes did not need to be nearly as extreme as the bodybuilding industry would lead one to believe. His recommended diets were extremely well balanced, and he espoused eating from all four food groups (totaling four servings each of high-quality grains and fruits, and two each of dairy and protein daily), all year-round.[3]

Carbohydrates should make up the bulk of the caloric intake, 50-60%, rather than protein as preferred by others. The reasoning behind this was simple - to build 10 pounds of muscle in a year, a total of 6000 extra Calories needed to be ingested throughout the year, because one pound of muscle contains 600 Calories. That averages 16 extra Calories per day, and only 4 of them needed to be from protein - because muscle is 22% protein, about one quarter. "

Eat like this and add some protein shakes and you will get great results. You are what you eat. Dont go insane on a "chicken and rice" pro bodybuilder diet  

Does he also "demonstrates" in his book the amouts of drugs he took to bulk/lean? no

[Ursus]

TA will you post a pic of you holding come of the cakes you bake?

[noworries]

TA will you post a pic of you holding come of the cakes you bake?

He never will.  He always posts photos from the net of stuff he said he just cooked.  He never posts anything he said he actually has cooked.  I want to see the inside of his fridge, his pantry and kitchen.  He won't post for several hours as he goes and borrows money from Jisumbelle to go buy all unhealthy stuff so he can make it look like he eats shitty yet stay concentration camp skinny.

[JP_RC]

I don't get how Adonis, wavelength, and fatass can look at that eating for muscle building/muscle retention. If they lose weight on it fine, but it must absolutely strip muscle away. I mean Adonis and Wave are lean, yeah, but they are also ultra skinny, and fatman, well, he's another story altogether. I want to, and am losing weight, but at the same time want to get back the muscle I had and retain as much as possible. So in turn I take in 300 grams of protein a day, as protein repairs/builds the muscle.  I don't in any way shape or form understand how the following eating builds or retains muscle:


meal 1 - milk and protein powder = 274cals, 33p, 14c, 9f

snack - 2x coffee = 94cals, 6p, 10c, 3f

meal 2 - spicy bolognese linguine = 483cals, 42p, 52c, 13f

cardio - 30mins @ 40% VO2 max/ 115-120 bpms..

snack - strawberry cheesecake haagen dazs ice cream = 666cals, 10p, 71c, 39f

meal 3 - spicy bolognese linguine = 483cals, 42p, 52c, 13f

daily totals = 2000cals, 131p, 199c, 76f


I simply don't get how someone can go hard in the gym eating like this looking to build/retain muscle while dropping weight

Who's diet is that? Fatpanda's?

[Doug_Steele]

Who's diet is that? Fatpanda's?

No. Fatpanda's only consists of Kit Kat's. 

[ManBearPig...]

the only thing we all need to take from this thread is that a "day" is in fact, not 24 hours. 

Adonis time formula:

Monday = not a day
3 slices of cake plus 1 serving of butter = one day.

 

[Palpatine Q]

I've never seen somebody get so wound up over a fucking piece of cake.

[Palpatine Q]

the only thing we all need to take from this thread is that a "day" is in fact, not 24 hours. 

Adonis time formula:

Monday = not a day
3 slices of cake plus 1 serving of butter = one day.

 

LMFAO

[Coach is Back!]

The potato is disguised as a piece of cake.

[Doug_Steele]

I've never seen somebody get so wound up over a fucking Fruitcake.

 

[Meso_z]

Who's diet is that? Fatpanda's?

no need to ask.

[Ursus]

He never will.  He always posts photos from the net of stuff he said he just cooked.  He never posts anything he said he actually has cooked.  I want to see the inside of his fridge, his pantry and kitchen.  He won't post for several hours as he goes and borrows money from Jisumbelle to go buy all unhealthy stuff so he can make it look like he eats shitty yet stay concentration camp skinny.

I was thinking that exacy same thing then I seen your post. good point you made

[wavelength]

I don't get how Adonis, wavelength, and fatass can look at that eating for muscle building/muscle retention. If they lose weight on it fine, but it must absolutely strip muscle away. I mean Adonis and Wave are lean, yeah, but they are also ultra skinny, and fatman, well, he's another story altogether. I want to, and am losing weight, but at the same time want to get back the muscle I had and retain as much as possible. So in turn I take in 300 grams of protein a day, as protein repairs/builds the muscle.  I don't in any way shape or form understand how the following eating builds or retains muscle:


meal 1 - milk and protein powder = 274cals, 33p, 14c, 9f

snack - 2x coffee = 94cals, 6p, 10c, 3f

meal 2 - spicy bolognese linguine = 483cals, 42p, 52c, 13f

cardio - 30mins @ 40% VO2 max/ 115-120 bpms..

snack - strawberry cheesecake haagen dazs ice cream = 666cals, 10p, 71c, 39f

meal 3 - spicy bolognese linguine = 483cals, 42p, 52c, 13f

daily totals = 2000cals, 131p, 199c, 76f


I simply don't get how someone can go hard in the gym eating like this looking to build/retain muscle while dropping weight

Protein is required for muscle retention, I think everyone agrees on that. The question is how much.
The reason I'm skinny now has nothing to do with not eating enough protein.

[lesaucer]

Does he also "demonstrates" in his book the amouts of drugs he took to bulk/lean? no

wow bodybuilders take steroids?? no shit

[The True Adonis]

TA will you post a pic of you holding come of the cakes you bake?

You got it. Next cake I bake I will post.  I am baking Cat Head Biscuits right now.

[The True Adonis]

You got it. Next cake I bake I will post.  I am baking Cat Head Biscuits right now.

Along with Neese`s Sausage and Gravy. 

[Meso_z]

Protein is required for muscle retention, I think everyone agrees on that. The question is how much.
The reason I'm skinny now has nothing to do with not eating enough protein.

You got it. Next cake I bake I will post.  I am baking Cat Head Biscuits right now.

 

[The True Adonis]