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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #25 on: October 21, 2010, 08:36:26 AM »
Billy - in case you missed it - this is exactly where the left wants to be arguing this, not on the economy, health care, jobs, etc.  

did you see my thread about last weeks jobs number being revised upwards again for the 26th straight week?  

Do you really think the left and dems want to discuss this after spending over 3 Trillion dollars with nothing to show for it?  

Notice anything lately - its trash ODonnell, Angle, & Palin all the time 24/7 and not run on their record.  They have ZERO to run on but trashing odonnell and palin.  

Without that, they literally have zero to run on.  

I agree with this a bogus issue, but its fun spoiling the Palin hatefest by pointing out equally stupid things the Messiah and The One does.    
LMAO...ok...Where did you get 3 trillion from?

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #26 on: October 21, 2010, 08:41:35 AM »
LMAO...ok...Where did you get 3 trillion from?

See Mal - this is where I take issue with your attacks on me.  You just are not all that well informed on these issues. 

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http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/10/national-debt-obama.html
Obama spending stimulates the national debt by $3,039,000,000,000
October 19, 2010 |  2:08 am



No wonder the president's wife is passing the hat to his supporters asking for $3 campaign donations. Have you seen the size of the national debt? It's a new record.

The United States of America now owes someone(s) $13,665,000,000,000.

By 2012, when Hillary Clinton next challenges Barack Obama for their party's presidential nomination, the national debt will be even larger than today's record -- $16,500,000,000,000, according to current federal estimates. That's more money than the entire United States economy produces in a complete year.

That's also way more money than either Obama or Clinton spent to win the Democratic nomination in 2008.

This stunning debt news comes to us courtesy of Mark Knoller of CBS News, who is the White House press corps' chief cruncher of all things numbers.

Knoller has also figured out that during Obama's presidential watch, the....

...national debt has increased by $3,039,000,000,000, as in, that much more than it was when he took the oath on Jan. 20, 2009, in front of millions of excited witnesses and Aretha Franklin's huge hat.


Obama prefers to lay the blame or credit for this gargantuan spending increase at the cowboy-booted feet of his Lone Star Republican predecessor. During George W. Bush's Oval Office tenure, the national debt increased more -- by $4.9 trillion, in fact.

However, Bush took 96 months to do that.

Obama has accomplished his spending feat in less than 21 months. Under his spendership the national debt has grown about $4.8 billion every day since he took the oath of office twice, just to be safe.

Just imagine the dough Obama could push out the door given another two years of partnership with Democratic congressional leaders like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

Those Democrat majorities controlling Congress since 2007 didn't have time to get around to passing a federal budget this fiscal year, what with all the additional spending measures and recesses and necessary campaigning and all.

But according to polls in recent months, the federal debt and spending deficit have emerged as major concerns of American voters, who have this silly idea from their own lives that spending ought to be more in line with available resources. They may have something to say about this on Nov. 2.

The ongoing gap -- or, more accurately, chasm -- between federal in-come and out-go is a major reason why Obama says he opposes a continuation of tax cuts for what he considers wealthy Americans. He wants that tax money coming in to help cover spending.

Not much talk yet about cutting that spending.

But maybe that subject will come up now and then when the newer members of Congress convene in January.

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Sarah Palin pleads: 'Nobody tell Barack Obama what number comes after a trillion'

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2010, 09:12:06 AM »
See Mal - this is where I take issue with your attacks on me.  You just are not all that well informed on these issues. 

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Political commentary from Andrew Malcolm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/10/national-debt-obama.html
Obama spending stimulates the national debt by $3,039,000,000,000
October 19, 2010 |  2:08 am



No wonder the president's wife is passing the hat to his supporters asking for $3 campaign donations. Have you seen the size of the national debt? It's a new record.

The United States of America now owes someone(s) $13,665,000,000,000.

By 2012, when Hillary Clinton next challenges Barack Obama for their party's presidential nomination, the national debt will be even larger than today's record -- $16,500,000,000,000, according to current federal estimates. That's more money than the entire United States economy produces in a complete year.

That's also way more money than either Obama or Clinton spent to win the Democratic nomination in 2008.

This stunning debt news comes to us courtesy of Mark Knoller of CBS News, who is the White House press corps' chief cruncher of all things numbers.

Knoller has also figured out that during Obama's presidential watch, the....

...national debt has increased by $3,039,000,000,000, as in, that much more than it was when he took the oath on Jan. 20, 2009, in front of millions of excited witnesses and Aretha Franklin's huge hat.


Obama prefers to lay the blame or credit for this gargantuan spending increase at the cowboy-booted feet of his Lone Star Republican predecessor. During George W. Bush's Oval Office tenure, the national debt increased more -- by $4.9 trillion, in fact.

However, Bush took 96 months to do that.

Obama has accomplished his spending feat in less than 21 months. Under his spendership the national debt has grown about $4.8 billion every day since he took the oath of office twice, just to be safe.

Just imagine the dough Obama could push out the door given another two years of partnership with Democratic congressional leaders like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

Those Democrat majorities controlling Congress since 2007 didn't have time to get around to passing a federal budget this fiscal year, what with all the additional spending measures and recesses and necessary campaigning and all.

But according to polls in recent months, the federal debt and spending deficit have emerged as major concerns of American voters, who have this silly idea from their own lives that spending ought to be more in line with available resources. They may have something to say about this on Nov. 2.

The ongoing gap -- or, more accurately, chasm -- between federal in-come and out-go is a major reason why Obama says he opposes a continuation of tax cuts for what he considers wealthy Americans. He wants that tax money coming in to help cover spending.

Not much talk yet about cutting that spending.

But maybe that subject will come up now and then when the newer members of Congress convene in January.

Related Item:

Sarah Palin pleads: 'Nobody tell Barack Obama what number comes after a trillion'

-- Andrew Malcolm

Special Notice to Ticket Subscribers: Due to the size of the nation's debt, we must regrettably double the price of our free Twitter alerts. Click here to join nearly 54,000 global readers who follow The Ticket with Twitter alerts of each new Ticket item. Or follow us @latimestot. Our Facebook Like page is over here. We're also available here on Kindle now.

Photo: Pete Souza / White House (Campaigning Obama talks politics with aide Patrick Gaspard); Ron Edmonds / Associated Press.

Spending 3 trillion and national debt of 3 trillion...is there a difference?...i know there is i just want to see what you  will say...because you said they spent 3 trillion and now you are saying the national debt is 3 trillion...this is where i take issue with you . boom

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2010, 09:13:49 AM »
No - OBAMA INCREASED THE NATIONAL DEBT BY 3 TRILLION SO FAR SINCE TAKING OFFICE.  THAT IS STONE COLD FACT. 

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2010, 09:16:28 AM »
No - OBAMA INCREASED THE NATIONAL DEBT BY 3 TRILLION SO FAR SINCE TAKING OFFICE.  THAT IS STONE COLD FACT. 

So did he spend 3 trillion dollars?

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2010, 09:19:06 AM »
So did he spend 3 trillion dollars?


Actually - they spent far more than that.   The 3 Trillion in national debt is on top of the receipts the govt took in via taxes, duties, etc.   Its a staggering number.   

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2010, 09:19:57 AM »
Billy - in case you missed it - this is exactly where the left wants to be arguing this, not on the economy, health care, jobs, etc.  

did you see my thread about last weeks jobs number being revised upwards again for the 26th straight week?  

Do you really think the left and dems want to discuss this after spending over 3 Trillion dollars with nothing to show for it?  

Notice anything lately - its trash ODonnell, Angle, & Palin all the time 24/7 and not run on their record.  They have ZERO to run on but trashing odonnell and palin.  

Without that, they literally have zero to run on.  

I agree with this a bogus issue, but its fun spoiling the Palin hatefest by pointing out equally stupid things the Messiah and The One does.    



ha ha h a -    Rush is making this very point right now - he must have read this thread before going on air. 

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2010, 09:28:13 AM »

only in america would people get thier news from a drug addict

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2010, 09:31:42 AM »


only in america would people get thier news from a drug addict

I made that post before he went on air fool. 

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2010, 09:34:10 AM »
but your watching him ;D

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
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« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2010, 09:38:07 AM »
Actually - they spent far more than that.   The 3 Trillion in national debt is on top of the receipts the govt took in via taxes, duties, etc.   Its a staggering number.  


OMG...DID THE GOVERNMENT SPEND AS IN PAY OUT MONEY TO THE TUNE OF 3 TRILLION DOLLARS....

and not factoring in Defense, Social, security Medicare

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« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2010, 09:39:40 AM »

OMG...DID THE GOVERNMENT SPEND AS IN PAY OUT MONEY TO THE TUNE OF 3 TRILLION DOLLARS....

No, the govt paid out far more than that. 

Dude - did they require math where you went to school?

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2010, 09:39:47 AM »

only in america would people get thier news from a drug addict

Wow,taking pain killers is a real crime.Funny but Obama ADMITTED to smoking pot and sniffing cocain,but thats ok right?We have Patrick Kennedy making laws for us to follow who has been in drug rehab three times but thats fine.Rush has no criminal record,it was extinguished.Sorry,but he has 21 million people listening to him because he is GREAT,the greatest radio man in the history of the media YES better then Stern.

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2010, 09:43:49 AM »
So we could cut TARP (which was Paid back) and what else?...because Defense, Social Security and Medicare couldnt be touched right..

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« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2010, 09:45:45 AM »
So we could cut TARP (which was Paid back) and what else?...because Defense, Social Security and Medicare couldnt be touched right..

Bro - you are talking to wrong guy - i want to cut the govt by at least 50%. 

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2010, 09:46:11 AM »


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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2010, 09:48:30 AM »
Bro - you are talking to wrong guy - i want to cut the govt by at least 50%. 

But can you say with all fairness that this government spent 3tril more than what would have been spent with someone else.


Defense, Medicare and SS couldnt be touched right?

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2010, 09:54:09 AM »
But can you say with all fairness that this government spent 3tril more than what would have been spent with someone else.


Defense, Medicare and SS couldnt be touched right?

They could and should be touched.   However, a lot of that number in the last two years in the Stim Bill, AIG Bailout, Fannie Freddy, GM, the escalation of the wars etc. 

We need to balance our damn budget and get spending under control like we did in the mid 90's.  Its totally crazy and they are causing the Fed Reserve to devalue the dollar to keep this charade going.  Bro - you have no idea how bad a fiscal mess we are in with all of this out of control spending and the crazy schemes that are being hatched to prop this nonsense up.   

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2010, 09:57:40 AM »
So you are saying that in the begining of 2009 (which the numbers are derived) that defense spending, Medicare and Social Security could have all been drastically cut? All those at once and its Obamas fault...is that what you are saying?


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« Reply #46 on: October 21, 2010, 10:01:27 AM »
So you are saying that in the begining of 2009 (which the numbers are derived) that defense spending, Medicare and Social Security could have all been drastically cut? All those at once and its Obamas fault...is that what you are saying?

Obama is at fault for making a bad situation drastically worse and piling on.

 

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #47 on: October 21, 2010, 10:05:51 AM »
Obama is at fault for making a bad situation drastically worse and piling on.

 

how...by the stim bill of which 40% is tax cuts..or the obamacare which the CBO confirmed as deficit neutral over 10 years?

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #48 on: October 21, 2010, 10:08:45 AM »
how...by the stim bill of which 40% is tax cuts..or the obamacare which the CBO confirmed as deficit neutral over 10 years?

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Dear God - stick to medicine - econ aint your thing.   

the CBO scored ObamaCare based on the lies put before it that included 10 years of tax collection and only for years of payouts.  when you include 10 years of payouts vs 10 years of taxes - its drastically in the red. 

Additionally - guess how it was deficit neutral, even based on the lies of obama?   500 BILLION IN TAXES and 500 BILLION CUTS TO MEDICARE 

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Re: Sarah Palin DESECRATES American FLAG
« Reply #49 on: October 21, 2010, 10:15:49 AM »
So even if you are right (but thats another argument) out side of Obamacare...what is the MAJOR new spending mandated by obama which shoots this deficit up?