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« Reply #200 on: November 08, 2010, 06:38:47 AM »
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don't know exacvtly - when gibbs was asked, he refused to answer - but at a minimum the entire mess will cost at least $100 Million. 

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« Reply #201 on: November 08, 2010, 06:42:29 AM »
Damn that ass is getting huge.  She must be depressed or something.   



Damn - did obama take lessons from Pee Wee Herman?   Eerily similar. 




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« Reply #202 on: November 08, 2010, 06:51:54 AM »
don't know exacvtly - when gibbs was asked, he refused to answer - but at a minimum the entire mess will cost at least $100 Million. 

How did you get that number.

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« Reply #203 on: November 08, 2010, 07:04:07 AM »
How did you get that number.

Read above - I started breaking down the costs. 

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« Reply #204 on: November 08, 2010, 07:18:07 AM »
I'm checking flights now -

Cost for 1 round trip - First Class - anywhere from 7k to 9k  


http://www.delta.com/booking/findFlights.do#top


Cost for Coach is $2,000.00  

http://www.delta.com/booking/reviseSearch.do;cohrBkgSessID=SA6IlS4T3D2ORLE#top


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So, the minimum airfare alone  has a range of anywhere $6,000,000 on the low end and $27,000,000 on the high end.  

That is airfare alone and does not include AF1, AF2, the helicopters, and all the other air related costs for Obamas staff.    

Lets tally the costs up. 

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« Reply #205 on: November 08, 2010, 07:19:41 AM »
The cost of Obama going to Chicago and back on AF1 - was $236,000. 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-air-force-one-15-jun15,0,2483578.story

695 Miles - or  1400 miles. 

So lets say 1500 miles = $236,000

Distance between Mumbai and Washington DC is 8,000 Miles or 16,000 round trip. 

So lets say then that the cost just to mumbai and back is $2,517,333.00, but that does not include the cost to infonesia and all the other places.   

So the cost of AF1 is at least 3.5 Mill on the low end and probably 6 Million on the high end. 






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« Reply #206 on: November 08, 2010, 07:45:51 AM »
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I laugh at you worrying about .000000000000000001 percent of the US budget in this trip.

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« Reply #207 on: November 08, 2010, 07:52:50 AM »
I laugh at you worrying about .000000000000000001 percent of the US budget in this trip.

Its called sending a message, its called leadership, its called leading by example, it called responding to reality of our being busted broke, its called getting a clue. 

Obama has two years left of this charade.  If the GOP runs Huck, Romney, Thune, or someone like that, Obama is finished completely. 

He and his admn have become the laughing stock of the world.   

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« Reply #208 on: November 08, 2010, 08:47:31 AM »
If the GOP runs Huck, Romney, Thune, or someone like that, Obama is finished completely. 

They won't.

They'll run Palin.

And right around the time repub voter motivation will be DOWN, once yall realize that Rand paul and your other "take the govt back for the people" tea party members are going to keep borrowing, keep spending, etc....

Repub enthusiam will be down in 2012, thanks to that.
Dem enthusiam will be UP in 2012, with a polarizing Palin running against them.
Moderates will be tired of Obama but will stick with the experienced Obama over the clueless Palin.

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« Reply #209 on: November 08, 2010, 08:56:46 AM »
They won't.

They'll run Palin.

And right around the time repub voter motivation will be DOWN, once yall realize that Rand paul and your other "take the govt back for the people" tea party members are going to keep borrowing, keep spending, etc....

Repub enthusiam will be down in 2012, thanks to that.
Dem enthusiam will be UP in 2012, with a polarizing Palin running against them.
Moderates will be tired of Obama but will stick with the experienced Obama over the clueless Palin.

This from the guy who predicted in the mid terms health care would be the big issue democrats would run on and that Charlie Crist would be the front runner for 2012 on the republican side and that Carloine Kennedy would make a great VP choice for democrats.

As long as Imam Barrack Hussein Obama is ppresident republican enthusiasm wil be sky high.

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« Reply #210 on: November 08, 2010, 09:00:39 AM »
yep, I got it wrong on the crist vote.  I admitted it.  You can keep rubbing my nose in it, and I can resort to talking about the shape of your kidneys, or some other immature bullshit like that, if you really wanna be pricks about it.  Usually when a guy says "wow, I was wrong about that", most people willl accept that and move on.

If you don't think palin's a legit threat for the nomination in 2012, you must not be paying very close attention.

Intrade, the world global gambling/betting page - has it at 68.8% chance she'll announce she is running.  It's climbing every day.

And, the world gambling has her at 2nd behind romney in likelihood of WINNING the nomination - ahead of huck, thune, etc


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« Reply #211 on: November 08, 2010, 09:19:47 AM »
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James Corum is an American military historian and the author of seven books on military history and counter-insurgency. He is a Lieutenant Colonel in the US Army Reserve (rtd) and has 28 years' experience as an army officer.



Barack Obama’s trip to India is a grossly indulgent waste of the defence budget
 
By James Corum World Last updated: November 8th, 2010

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President and Mrs Obama prepare to enjoy a lavish trip.


After last week’s humiliation of President Barack Obama in the midterm elections – in which the Republicans made huge gains at every level of government – you might think that the president would want to avoid another political disaster for a while. But not our Obama. To compound America’s rejection of his domestic policies, one week later he is determined to call attention to the bankruptcy of his foreign and security policies.

Obama’s trip to India bears all the hallmarks of failure at home. In the past, when things were going badly for the president domestically, he went on a foreign tour designed to highlight his stature as a world leader. But this lavish visit is simply highlighting the administration’s incompetence in foreign affairs.

First of all, India is not a close ally or a key strategic nation for America. We have no alliance with India, no bases there, no security partnership, Nor is India is not a key nation in terms of trade. There was no urgent reason for Obama to go there: no major treaty to sign, no dramatic arms control event. It is a “feelgood” stunt in which the US president and Indian president share platitudes while the Obama-worshipping international media applaud.

Meanwhile, while the president is travelling with an entourage that would dwarf the armed forces of even large nations (US Navy ships deployed, a fleet of aircraft and vehicles, hundreds of advisors) and displaying a level of pomp and ceremony that would have impressed the old Raj, some American newspapers have been noting the cost of $200 million a day. For a president that runs up new spending in the trillions, this is small change. But he will be coming back to face a new Congress. And, after a two-year spending binge, he is asking it to make some major cuts – in the defence budget.

As it happens, the defence budget is the main source of President Obama’s lavish travel budget. When the Congressional committees – after January to be controlled by conservative Republicans – look at his wish to cut defence, they may note that the cost of this latest trip could have paid for a squadron of new F-35 fighters for the US Air Force, or a destroyer for the US Navy, or a whole new brigade for the US Army, complete with personnel and armoured vehicles. Republican Congressmen may note that America could have bought itself some real security in the form of men and equipment for a military worn down by a decade of conflict.

It comes down to a different worldview. Republicans and conservatives are happy to negotiate and push for peaceful solutions. But real international solutions are not obtained unless they are backed up by powerful armed forces. Reagan knew this – and that is why the US-Soviet negotiations led by him were so effective in winning a real peace.

But Barack Obama and his Leftist supporters have another view of defence spending. They believe that international problems can be solved by Western apologies, vast aid programmes to third world nations (especially hostile dictatorships) and disarmament. In return, the Western democracies get vague promises of good behaviour.

The Republicans need to make an issue of Obama’s grossly indulgent trip to India and use it to contrast the two parties’ philosophies of national security. As we found out last week, whatever Obama’s adulatory media might say, American voters prefer the Republicans’ worldview.

Tags: Barack Obama, defence budget, democrats, India, Republicans, us elections, US midterms



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Re: F'ING CLUELESS - Obama's India Trip to cost $____ Millions a day.
« Reply #212 on: November 08, 2010, 09:20:04 AM »
yep, I got it wrong on the crist vote.  I admitted it.  You can keep rubbing my nose in it, and I can resort to talking about the shape of your kidneys, or some other immature bullshit like that, if you really wanna be pricks about it.  Usually when a guy says "wow, I was wrong about that", most people willl accept that and move on.

If you don't think palin's a legit threat for the nomination in 2012, you must not be paying very close attention.

Intrade, the world global gambling/betting page - has it at 68.8% chance she'll announce she is running.  It's climbing every day.

And, the world gambling has her at 2nd behind romney in likelihood of WINNING the nomination - ahead of huck, thune, etc



Ummmm,anytime you would like to compare blood work,Id be more then happy.Stop listening to the know nothing media.Steroids are safe!

Now,I wasnt talking about your silly Palin rant,I was talking about your enthusiasm rant.The republicans could run David Duke,and as long as Imam Obama is president,they will be fired up beyond belief.Add to that,Pelosi and Reid still being the heads of the democrat leadership and you will enthusiasm at an all time high.You still dont get it.WE HATE OBAMA!!!!!!We dont love republicans,we hate liberals like Pelosi and Reid.They have galvanised us until we defeat them completely.

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« Reply #213 on: November 08, 2010, 09:28:20 AM »
Ummmm,anytime you would like to compare blood work,Id be more then happy.Stop listening to the know nothing media.Steroids are safe!

I thought you said your kidneys were like swiss cheese.

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« Reply #214 on: November 08, 2010, 09:32:24 AM »
I thought you said your kidneys were like swiss cheese.

Nope,Im 100% healthy,other then massive joint and muscle injuries which are part of the sport.Never had one negative blood test,blood pressure is 117 over 75,cholesterol is 165.Plus havent ate a vegetable or fruit in twenty five years,so a side note and off topic FUCK YOU MICHELLE OBAMA.

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« Reply #215 on: November 08, 2010, 09:34:32 AM »
Nope,Im 100% healthy,other then massive joint and muscle injuries which are part of the sport.Never had one negative blood test,blood pressure is 117 over 75,cholesterol is 165.Plus havent ate a vegetable or fruit in twenty five years,so a side note and off topic FUCK YOU MICHELLE OBAMA.

Billy - did you see how fucking Huge she has gotten in that dancing video? 

Sorry bro - you are big an all, but at this point i think she might give you a run for your money in deads, squat, and bench.   ;D  ;D  ;D

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« Reply #216 on: November 08, 2010, 09:37:09 AM »
Billy - did you see how fucking Huge she has gotten in that dancing video? 

Sorry bro - you are big an all, but at this point i think she might give you a run for your money in deads, squat, and bench.   ;D  ;D  ;D

Her ass is as big as the moon.She is a fatty who wants to tell us what to eat.

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« Reply #217 on: November 08, 2010, 09:38:19 AM »
Her ass is as big as the moon.She is a fatty who wants to tell us what to eat.

She is beyond that.   I cant believe how thick she is. 

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« Reply #218 on: November 08, 2010, 01:51:11 PM »
New Delhi |11 hours ago
Bedspreads, Ganeshas, toys...Michelle can't stop buying at crafts museum
Monday, 08 November 2010 | http://www.nerve.in/news:253500351728 | channel: India   



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"The museum has over 20,000 exhibits reflecting Indian crafts traditions and seven galleries spaces for display." 
   
New Delhi, Nov 8 - Indian textiles and handicrafts charmed their way into Michelle Obama's shopping bag Monday as the US first lady almost ran out of money, picking up bedspreads, Ganeshas and wooden toys which, she said, would make for ideal Christmas gifts!

Michelle went on a shopping spree after arriving at the National Handicrafts and Handloom Museum in Pragati Maidan complex at 10.45 a.m. She was in the museum for nearly two hours, shooting well past her one-hour scheduled programme.

Museum director Ruchira Ghosh walked Michelle through the galleries devoted to the traditional textiles, rural handicrafts and art of India.

'Michelle was so impressed with the Indian handicrafts on display that she did not want to leave the museum. She went on a shopping binge, buying almost everything that she came across,' said Ghosh.

Michelle said she would have bought more had she been left with more money, those at the museum said.

The US first lady exhausted her shopping budget at the crafts museum and said the Indian craft items were ideal gifts of Christmas, barely one-and-a-half months away!

She was clad in the same black and green dress she had worn at Mahatma Gandhi's memorial Rajghat and from where she drove down in an eight-vehicle convoy to the crafts museum while her husband and US President Barack Obama left for Hyderabad House for talks with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.

Her shopping list included four embroidered kantha bed spreads, Kutchi mobile phone bags, Kutchi dolls and a from Gujarati 'yogi thaila', which was a cloth bag with sequins and heavy embroidery.

Michelle also bought wooden toys from Karnataka, wooden key chains, three wooden Ganeshas and a wooden toy train. Part of the gifts she bought were also elephants and fans made of rice grain and rice stalk.

Also on display for the first lady were patachitra art from West Bengal, phulkari weaves from Punjab, phoosa art from Karnataka, dushala shawls from Jammu and Kashmir and handicrafts from Himachal Pradesh.

About 20 women artisans from across the country exhibited their work on the occasion.

Michelle was impressed by the rich legacy of Indian crafts.

She also interacted with 15 underprivileged girls of an NGO who make handicraft items for a living and showed a keen interest in the welfare of the girl child, museum sources said.

To add to her cultural experience were 'baul' folk singers from West Bengal.

The museum, which is usually closed Monday, was kept open specially for the first lady.

The museum was set up over a period of 30 years starting in the 1950s when the area adjacent to the Pragati Maidan was envisaged as a craft zone for artisans to work for the preservation of traditional art.

The museum has over 20,000 exhibits reflecting Indian crafts traditions and seven galleries spaces for display.

Michelle is accompanying husband Barack Obama during his first trip to India from Nov 6-9.


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« Reply #219 on: November 08, 2010, 08:08:15 PM »
Obama's Ignorance of World Affairs on Full Display in India
American Thinker ^ | 11/08/10 | Michael Filozof




When George W. Bush was sworn into office, he was mocked by his political enemies as a parochial idiot who had no understanding of world affairs. That proved untrue. By contrast Barack Obama was touted as a multicultural "citizen of the world" whose childhood residence in Indonesia, adult trips to Pakistan and Kenya, and Harvard degree were supposed proof of his sophistication. Obama subsequently disproved this belief by making reference to "speaking Austrian" during a European speech and sending Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to Russia to "press the reset button," (the word "reset" in Russian was misspelled) a stunt so stupid that a high school girl at a Model UN conference probably wouldn't do it.

Now, in his quasi-imperial trip to India, Obama has made ridiculous P.C.-inspired statements that managed to offend both India and Pakistan and reveal an astounding ignorance of South Asian politics and history.

First, Obama told an Indian audience that he supported India's bid to gain a permanent seat (and veto) on the UN Security Council. Aside from the fact that this is unlikely to happen, the idea greatly offends Pakistan, a sworn enemy of India since both countries became independent in 1947. While Obama's support for an Indian seat on the Security Council was greeted with applause in India, it was immediately denounced by Pakistan. Pakistan is our "ally" in the war on terror, but it is very unstable, partially ungovernable, and likely harboring Osama bin Laden. Obama gratuitously offended it by supporting its #1 enemy, India. How can this possibly help our efforts in the Af-Pak theater of war?

Second, Obama contradicted centuries of Indian history when he told an Indian schoolgirl that Islam is a "religion of peace" and that only "extremists" corrupt it. According to The Hindu newspaper, Obama said Islam is "a religion that reaffirms peace, fairness, tolerance. I think all of us recognize that this great religion in the hands of a few extremists has been distorted by violence." This must be an astonishingly false statement to Indian ears and to anyone with even a cursory knowledge of Indian history.

India has had virtually non-stop conflict with Islam since it was first invaded by Muslims in the seventh century. Hindu India and Muslim Pakistan have been in a virtual state of war since 1947, when British India was partitioned along religious lines, resulting in nearly a million casualties. Today, both India and Pakistan are nuclear-armed powers. There have been at least three shooting wars since 1947 and constant low-grade war over Kashmir. The attack on the Indian parliament by Muslim terrorists in 2001 and the Mumbai Massacre, perpetrated by Pakistani Muslims in 2008, are not the result of "extremists" who "distort" Islam but merely the latest incidents in centuries of war and conquest India has suffered at the hands of the "religion of peace."

It's clear that the Obama foreign policy isn't based on sophistication or even a basic knowledge of world affairs. It's based purely on fatuous P.C. sentiments that meet with approval in faculty lounges, but are downright dangerous to American security in the real world.


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« Reply #220 on: November 08, 2010, 08:26:39 PM »
Obama's Ignorance of World Affairs on Full Display in India
American Thinker ^ | 11/08/10 | Michael Filozof




When George W. Bush was sworn into office, he was mocked by his political enemies as a parochial idiot who had no understanding of world affairs. That proved untrue. By contrast Barack Obama was touted as a multicultural "citizen of the world" whose childhood residence in Indonesia, adult trips to Pakistan and Kenya, and Harvard degree were supposed proof of his sophistication. Obama subsequently disproved this belief by making reference to "speaking Austrian" during a European speech and sending Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to Russia to "press the reset button," (the word "reset" in Russian was misspelled) a stunt so stupid that a high school girl at a Model UN conference probably wouldn't do it.

Now, in his quasi-imperial trip to India, Obama has made ridiculous P.C.-inspired statements that managed to offend both India and Pakistan and reveal an astounding ignorance of South Asian politics and history.

First, Obama told an Indian audience that he supported India's bid to gain a permanent seat (and veto) on the UN Security Council. Aside from the fact that this is unlikely to happen, the idea greatly offends Pakistan, a sworn enemy of India since both countries became independent in 1947. While Obama's support for an Indian seat on the Security Council was greeted with applause in India, it was immediately denounced by Pakistan. Pakistan is our "ally" in the war on terror, but it is very unstable, partially ungovernable, and likely harboring Osama bin Laden. Obama gratuitously offended it by supporting its #1 enemy, India. How can this possibly help our efforts in the Af-Pak theater of war?

Second, Obama contradicted centuries of Indian history when he told an Indian schoolgirl that Islam is a "religion of peace" and that only "extremists" corrupt it. According to The Hindu newspaper, Obama said Islam is "a religion that reaffirms peace, fairness, tolerance. I think all of us recognize that this great religion in the hands of a few extremists has been distorted by violence." This must be an astonishingly false statement to Indian ears and to anyone with even a cursory knowledge of Indian history.

India has had virtually non-stop conflict with Islam since it was first invaded by Muslims in the seventh century. Hindu India and Muslim Pakistan have been in a virtual state of war since 1947, when British India was partitioned along religious lines, resulting in nearly a million casualties. Today, both India and Pakistan are nuclear-armed powers. There have been at least three shooting wars since 1947 and constant low-grade war over Kashmir. The attack on the Indian parliament by Muslim terrorists in 2001 and the Mumbai Massacre, perpetrated by Pakistani Muslims in 2008, are not the result of "extremists" who "distort" Islam but merely the latest incidents in centuries of war and conquest India has suffered at the hands of the "religion of peace."

It's clear that the Obama foreign policy isn't based on sophistication or even a basic knowledge of world affairs. It's based purely on fatuous P.C. sentiments that meet with approval in faculty lounges, but are downright dangerous to American security in the real world.



Hahahaha, finally someone with balls points out what the MSM refuses to with regards to India. The Indians dealt with 800+ years of continued Muslim assaults in their failed attempt to conquer India. Countless millions died and there are many historians who will tell you that it was arguably the most violent and brutal campaign ever waged.

There's a reason most Hindus loathe Muslims. And Obama's whitewashing of it isn't going to sit well with the Indians. If we're going to piss money away by dumping it off to other countries we might as well take the billions of dollars we send to the terrorist state of Pakistan every year and give it to India. At least we wouldn't be financing the murder of our own soldiers by our supposed "ally" by doing so.

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« Reply #221 on: November 09, 2010, 03:00:29 AM »
what palin does with campaign money is her own business.

what michelle obama buys with HER OWN MONEY is a big deal.


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« Reply #222 on: November 09, 2010, 04:53:27 AM »
what palin does with campaign money is her own business.

what michelle obama buys with HER OWN MONEY is a big deal.


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Like she used her own money.   ::)

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« Reply #223 on: November 09, 2010, 04:55:17 AM »
where's your prove she didn't use her own money, you been known to lie

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« Reply #224 on: November 09, 2010, 05:01:43 AM »
where's your prove she didn't use her own money, you been known to lie

Making a guess based on everything else these two grifters and thieves are all about.