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« Reply #275 on: November 13, 2010, 06:12:18 PM »
you and i argue different things. I argue printed facts and you like to argue CT's and "you arent in tune to whats really going on" and maybe thats true. Im a Scientist and i only go off data and black and white. when commin up with your own theories, well not your own theories.. but diverting away from definitions opens the discussion to an endless number of factors..Thats why i stay away from it.


The problem Mal is your facts are incomplete, and I suspect your understanding of what Paul wants is too.  The federal reserve is audited by the Comptroller General, GAO, etc.  What they are not providing you on their website is the limitations.  The GAO typically deals with individual policies, but doesn't make an in-depth audit into the finances.  Like if the Fed setup a specific program for such and such, then the GAO might audit it.

The Comptroller General can only conduct an on-site examination if the Fed consents.  Also, the Comptroller General's office is forbidden by law to audit the following:

Foreign/International transactions
Talks or decisions about monetary policy, interest on deposits, market ops
Open market committee
And, I think, meetings.


So, what Ron Paul wants to do is eliminate the exclusions and prevent the Fed from blocking on-site examinations.  Then, he wants the results of the audit to be pretty much given to most majority and minority leaders in both houses (this is the transparency).


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Re: F'ING CLUELESS - Obama's India Trip to cost $200 Million a day.
« Reply #276 on: November 13, 2010, 10:14:49 PM »
I posted all the sources for this. 

34 Warships and their crew - thousands of people
3,000 people going along with POTUS
40 Jets -  crew - fuel - etc
800 Rooms for a week in the Hotel
etc etc. 

200 Million a day is probably on the low side. 


333 Did you run off half-cocked on another anti-Obama story without even stopping to think?
Did you then change the title of the thread after the fact when you realized you fell for yet another anti-Obama lie?
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Re: F'ING CLUELESS - Obama's India Trip to cost $200 Million a day.
« Reply #277 on: November 14, 2010, 07:27:33 AM »

333 Did you run off half-cocked on another anti-Obama story without even stopping to think?
Did you then change the title of the thread after the fact when you realized you fell for yet another anti-Obama lie?

I posted the title as reported in the india and UK media.  When the question was posed to Gibbs directly - he refused to answer so we don't have a direct amount.  So the actual amount is unknown, although under any scenario its  massive cost for nothing.  This trip was another embarassment on so many levels.  So I changed the the title sdince we don't know the exact amount although it is in the millions of dllars of day - the only issue at this point is the amount.

Regardles, Obama is wasting everyones' tax dollars.  Look what happened in Seoul for fucks sake!   

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« Reply #278 on: November 14, 2010, 07:39:51 AM »


here comes obama to a country near you,333386 style   :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: F'ING CLUELESS - Obama's India Trip to cost $____ Millions a day.
« Reply #279 on: November 14, 2010, 09:40:56 AM »

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Re: F'ING CLUELESS - Obama's India Trip to cost $____ Millions a day.
« Reply #280 on: November 14, 2010, 04:21:40 PM »
Besides, unless you know all the data - maybe there is a legit reason for that much hardware. 

QFMFT!


So while he's on this trip, what all happened?

Nothing confirmed, of course.  But we know "someone" fired a missile off the coast of Cali during rush hour. 

So maybe it's possible Obama knows more about national security than ppl on getbig.  just a theory!

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« Reply #281 on: November 14, 2010, 07:01:42 PM »
Trip was planned awhile ago. 

BTW 240 - People all across the spectrum are saying Obama demonstrated he is F'ING CLUELESS with this trip. 

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« Reply #282 on: November 14, 2010, 07:36:10 PM »
hey, he loked up on defense like it was the playoffs.

coincidentally... well, a lot of shit coincidentally happens...

I know, but but but they wouldn't do that...

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« Reply #283 on: November 19, 2010, 05:01:26 PM »
http://www.ptinews.com/news/1099052_When-Obama-shook-hands-with-Left-leader



When Obama shook hands with Left leader (Hussein: "I am glad to meet an Indian communist")
PTI News ^ | 11/09/10



When Obama shook hands with Left leader
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New Delhi, Nov 9 (PTI) The Left may have staged protests during his visit but US President Barack Obama was "glad" to meet an Indian communist leader last evening.


"I am glad to meet an Indian communist. I am told that communists have been part of the (Indian) political mainstream," Obama told CPI(M) politburo member Sitaram Yechury at the Rashtrapati Bhawan banquet as they were introduced and both shook hands.

Yechury told Obama that the Indian communists have been in the political mainstream "throughout".


Marking a departure from their past practice, leaders and MPs of the CPI(M) and CPI, known for their anti-US stance, had attended Obama's speech in Parliament last evening.


The CPI(M) leadership had maintained that "as we hear him, he should also listen to the voice of the Indian people and their protests".


But their Left ally, Forward Bloc, had boycotted the speech.



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Re: F'ING CLUELESS - Obama's India Trip to cost $____ Millions a day.
« Reply #284 on: November 19, 2010, 05:32:10 PM »
What's so striking about that red statement?  These guys (indian communists) have staunchly  been against US policy for quite some time.  I guess actually getting one of them to speak to the president and several to attend his speech, where in the past they would have told him to fuck off is now a horrible thing?

You're grasping at straws with that one.

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« Reply #285 on: November 19, 2010, 05:40:28 PM »
In my mind, I am never glad to meet communists. 

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« Reply #286 on: November 19, 2010, 05:53:09 PM »
In my mind, I am never glad to meet communists. 

That's why you aren't president =)

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« Reply #287 on: November 19, 2010, 05:55:11 PM »
That's why you aren't president =)

Same as Obama, after he loses the next election in 2012.

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« Reply #288 on: November 20, 2010, 06:29:20 AM »
Same as Obama, after he loses the next election in 2012.

Funny... When nothing changes over the next 2 years (and it won't), then who are you guys going to look for to fix it?


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« Reply #289 on: November 24, 2010, 09:03:57 AM »
Military Pegs Hourly Air Force One Cost at $180G, as Obama Sets Travel Record
Published November 24, 2010 | FoxNews.com

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The average American could buy a house for the amount of money it takes to run Air Force One every hour.

The U.S. military has provided an updated estimate on that cost, first published by a taxpayer watchdog group and confirmed by FoxNews.com, and the number is staggering -- $181,757 per hour. That's the price tag for shuttling around President Obama, who, as it turns out, has spent more days abroad in his first two years than any other president.

Estimates over the years based on government reports and independent number-crunching have always reflected a steep cost for presidential travel, but the figure provided by the 89th Airlift Wing appears to be far higher than any previously reported. It was first published in a report this week on presidential travel by the National Taxpayers Union Foundation.

"It's astonishing. It's far higher than any other ... figure that's been reported on. It's very surprising, and of course it's just a fraction of the overall cost involved with presidential travel," said policy analyst Demian Brady, who wrote the study.

Master Sgt. Jeff Capenos, with the 89th Airlift Wing, told FoxNews.com the figure reflects operating costs ranging from fuel to engine and aircraft maintenance. Asked why other public estimates, which typically did not exceed $100,000, were so much lower, he said: "They were probably inaccurate."

The National Taxpayers Union referred to the publication of the statistic as a "major coup for public disclosure." Brady said the high price tag, as compared with prior estimates, could be attributed not just to inflation, but a better and more specific accounting of the associated costs, as well as upgrades made to the aircraft. He urged the administration to be even more forthcoming with presidential travel costs.

Brady also used his report in part to tackle rumors about the cost of Obama's 10-day post-election tour through Asia. One Indian newspaper report quoted an anonymous local official claiming it would cost U.S. taxpayers $200 million every day, a figure Brady dismissed as "wildly exaggerated." The Obama administration also shot down that figure, without detailing the actual cost.

But the trip to India, Indonesia, South Korea and Japan was by no means cheap. While a total by-the-day figure may be impossible to come by, Brady estimated that the 48 hours of flight time logged on the trip would cost at least $8.7 million for Air Force One alone. The president's latest visit to Lisbon, Portugal, for a NATO conference would add another $2.7 million, he figured.

That Lisbon trip also set a record for Obama. By Brady's accounting, Obama has now logged 55 days overseas, surpassing former President George H.W. Bush's record of 54 days during his first two years. In total, Obama has visited 26 countries -- some of them more than once -- over the course of 15 trips.

Having been in office only two years, Obama has not come anywhere close to the overall record for presidential travel. That was set by former President Bill Clinton over the course of his two terms in office. Clinton logged 233 days abroad over the course of 55 trips. Former President George W. Bush comes in at a close second, with 215 days abroad over the course of 49 trips.

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Re: F'ING CLUELESS - Obama's India Trip to cost $____ Millions a day.
« Reply #290 on: April 29, 2011, 10:41:59 AM »
Ouch! ! ! !
 

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U.S. Loses in Biggest Fighter-Jet Sale in 15 Years in India
Bloomberg Businessweek ^ | April 29, 2011, 3:21 AM EDT | By James Rupert




April 29 (Bloomberg) -- India’s Defence Ministry opted for European over American warplanes for the world’s biggest fighter-jet aircraft order in 15 years, snubbing the lobbying efforts by President Barack Obama.

The U.S. is “deeply disappointed” after India told it this week that Boeing Co. and Lockheed Martin Corp. “were not selected for procurement” for the warplane, the American embassy in New Delhi said in a statement, citing Ambassador Timothy Roemer. India’s Defence Ministry will not comment on reports it has shortlisted the aircraft of France’s Dassault Aviation SA and the European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co., ministry spokesman Sitanshu Kar said by phone today.

The contest for India’s order may not be over yet, with approval by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s cabinet required following the Defense Ministry’s final recommendation. Obama has sought to strengthen ties with India, the world’s second-fastest growing major economy, aiming to boost export and job growth as the U.S. struggles to pull down an elevated unemployment rate.


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Re: F'ING CLUELESS - Obama's India Trip to cost $____ Millions a day.
« Reply #291 on: April 29, 2011, 11:08:26 AM »
I guess obama built the planes too ::)

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« Reply #292 on: April 29, 2011, 11:59:20 AM »
Ouch! ! ! !
 

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U.S. Loses in Biggest Fighter-Jet Sale in 15 Years in India
Bloomberg Businessweek ^ | April 29, 2011, 3:21 AM EDT | By James Rupert




April 29 (Bloomberg) -- India’s Defence Ministry opted for European over American warplanes for the world’s biggest fighter-jet aircraft order in 15 years, snubbing the lobbying efforts by President Barack Obama.

The U.S. is “deeply disappointed” after India told it this week that Boeing Co. and Lockheed Martin Corp. “were not selected for procurement” for the warplane, the American embassy in New Delhi said in a statement, citing Ambassador Timothy Roemer. India’s Defence Ministry will not comment on reports it has shortlisted the aircraft of France’s Dassault Aviation SA and the European Aeronautic, Defence & Space Co., ministry spokesman Sitanshu Kar said by phone today.

The contest for India’s order may not be over yet, with approval by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh’s cabinet required following the Defense Ministry’s final recommendation. Obama has sought to strengthen ties with India, the world’s second-fastest growing major economy, aiming to boost export and job growth as the U.S. struggles to pull down an elevated unemployment rate.


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This man is an absolute failure as president.  Couldn't use his personal appeal to bring home the Olympics.  Can barely convince his own party to support him.  Is unable to get Republican support for much of anything.  Couldn't convince most of the world to support us in Libya.  And now this? 

Maybe he should take Jesse Jackson with him on international trips.  Jesse actually has a better track record.  lol

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« Reply #293 on: April 29, 2011, 12:28:37 PM »
This man is an absolute failure as president.  Couldn't use his personal appeal to bring home the Olympics.  Can barely convince his own party to support him.  Is unable to get Republican support for much of anything.  Couldn't convince most of the world to support us in Libya.  And now this? 

Maybe he should take Jesse Jackson with him on international trips.  Jesse actually has a better track record.  lol

Wait... You're saying that Obama is the reason why 2 US private companies were not selected by India to build fighters?

Really?!

Maybe the fact the US planes were probably twice the cost of the European models?

Maybe Obama and company didn't take the Indian Prime Minister out to the local strip club or get his dick sucked and the French dudes did?

How do you know what the fucking reason is?

Ridiculous statement for you guys to put this on the Obama... Boeing and Lockheed should be asked why they didn't measure up.

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« Reply #294 on: April 29, 2011, 12:31:11 PM »
Wait... You're saying that Obama is the reason why 2 US private companies were not selected by India to build fighters?

Really?!

Maybe the fact the US planes were probably twice the cost of the European models?

Maybe Obama and company didn't take the Indian Prime Minister out to the local strip club or get his dick sucked and the French dudes did?

How do you know what the fucking reason is?

Ridiculous statement for you guys to put this on the Obama... Boeing and Lockheed should be asked why they didn't measure up.


Its probably a bitch slap at Bama for his horrible monetary policies exporting inflation around the world.  Many other countries are beyond pissed off at him and bernake over this. 

Also - we are losing to the Frogs now?  Come on.   This is ridiculous.       

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« Reply #295 on: April 29, 2011, 12:34:06 PM »
Wait... You're saying that Obama is the reason why 2 US private companies were not selected by India to build fighters?

Really?!

Maybe the fact the US planes were probably twice the cost of the European models?

Maybe Obama and company didn't take the Indian Prime Minister out to the local strip club or get his dick sucked and the French dudes did?

How do you know what the fucking reason is?

Ridiculous statement for you guys to put this on the Obama... Boeing and Lockheed should be asked why they didn't measure up.

I'm saying despite his in-person appeal, he failed . . . again.  And that he's an absolute failure as president. 

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« Reply #296 on: April 29, 2011, 12:34:41 PM »

Its probably a bitch slap at Bama for his horrible monetary policies exporting inflation around the world.  Many other countries are beyond pissed off at him and bernake over this.  

Also - we are losing to the Frogs now?  Come on.   This is ridiculous.        

Probably?

Seriously? Your response is "probably"?

Let's be honest here... You would put anything on Obama... He probably is the reason for the Tsunami and the Tornadoes in your eyes... You are as bad as the people who said Bush was Hitler.

You're basically saying that India's procurement process is all about what they like... Even though they say they will be transparent and purchase that which makes the most sense for the government.

So India is also lying...

You guys have no clue how government procurement works... They put out bids... talk to people... then attempt to get the best bang for the buck.

Considering India is flying MIGs that they bought in the 70s, the French companies will probably come in cheaper and be much more efficient.... At most likely 1/2 the US price.

I'm saying despite his in-person appeal, he failed . . . again.  And that he's an absolute failure as president.  

Bullshit... People buy what makes sense. I don't buy the stuff from the guy who gets me a lapdance when it costs 3 times as much.

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« Reply #297 on: April 29, 2011, 12:48:21 PM »
Huh - how about the MILLIONS of jobs we sent over there helping their economy and growth?  Thats not worth anything?   

What the hell did the Frogs ever do for them?

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« Reply #298 on: April 29, 2011, 12:49:47 PM »

Bullshit... People buy what makes sense. I don't buy the stuff from the guy who gets me a lapdance when it costs 3 times as much.


That's your opinion.  This isn't as simple as putting a contract out for bid.  It's also about making a deal with the world's only super power.  

And Obama failed . . . again.  

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« Reply #299 on: April 29, 2011, 01:19:21 PM »
But what if the deal with the other guys was just better.. all the charm in the world dont matter.. and the olympics thing.. damn thats funny,... you put that on obama...hahahahahhaha amazing