Who are the nice guys on here.

[Shockwave]

Remeber you dont' care what other men think. Your just faltering a little because I've destoyed the word alpha to mean absolutely nothing.

Lol. I dont give a shit what you classify me as dumbass, but the fact that you try to act so fucking liberal and non-judgemental, then you come on here and try and say alphas are manipulative and women hoarding is rediculous.  Youre stereotyping just like all the people you bitch about.

To top it off, your whole defense is trying to say that im mad that you dont classify me as an alpha, when I never claimed I was, never wanted to be, and never started a thread about bitching about how other men hoard women.  Epic fail on your part.  Your like that kid in school that has no idea what their talking about, but you just keep going because you dont like whatever youre arguing about but cant explain why. 

[CalvinH]

I'm one of the nice guys here and if you have a problem with that I'll kick you in the nuts

[Earl1972]

i try to be nice but if i have to own somebody, i won't hesitate

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[Lundgren]

First off I don't care what other people think of me I'm pretty open about my lack of self esteem. However that don't make me an alpha, just disinterested in social shit as it's not benefiting me at the moment.I use to be insecure and shit but in the last year I've matured 23 and come to terms with myself just trying to figure out at the moment how to fix my obsessive nature. Anyhow I think alpha's are like being rich great to be shitty to support. I love arnie think he's great just wouldn't wanna be the guy supporting him.  

And remember alpha's a social definition so it would automatically include a social context. I think what your a adressing would be the real man Ideal, little self concern with his own personal appearance, or what others think of him. You'll find this was the norm with men past 30 back in the day had nothing to do with their role in the group.

I'm a strong beliver the contrast between a nice guy like xerses and a guy like groink is that imtimadation, and manipulation are not in his tool kit. Remeber this was a word taken from the animal kingdom to define men who took the role of alpha animals, and not some sort of philosophical ideal.  Point is alpha males are the type of guys that gets what he wants,(logic would imply someone loses.) focus of attention (by taking it away from others), terriotorial,  and gets the women again(less pussy to go around, as unless your poping women out of thin air someone ain't getting laid.

Remember I don't think these guys are bad quite the opposite it's part of a healthy soceity and they only do it because women embrace it. Again there nothing wrong with being a nice guy. There costs and perks either way you can't have it all. (basic relization of men that your ego can't consume all happens around 25 for mostmen.)

[Shockwave]

First off I don't care what other people think of me I'm pretty open about my lack of self esteem. However that don't make me an alpha, just disinterested in social shit as it's not benefiting me at the moment.I use to be insecure and shit but in the last year I've matured 23 and come to terms with myself just trying to figure out at the moment how to fix my obsessive nature. Anyhow I think alpha's are like being rich great to be shitty to support. I love arnie think he's great just wouldn't wanna be the guy supporting him.  

And remember alpha's a social definition so it would automatically include a social context. I think what your a adressing would be the real man Ideal, little self concern with his own personal appearance, or what others think of him. You'll find this was the norm with men past 30 back in the day had nothing to do with their role in the group.

I'm a strong beliver the contrast between a nice guy like xerses and a guy like groink is that imtimadation, and manipulation are not in his tool kit. Remeber this was a word taken from the animal kingdom to define men who took the role of alpha animals, and not some sort of philosophical ideal.  Point is alpha males are the type of guys that gets what he wants,(logic would imply someone loses.) focus of attention (by taking it away from others), terriotorial,  and gets the women again(less pussy to go around, as unless your poping women out of thin air someone ain't getting laid.

Remember I don't think these guys are bad quite the opposite it's part of a healthy soceity and they only do it because women embrace it. Again there nothing wrong with being a nice guy. There costs and perks either way you can't have it all. (basic relization of men that your ego can't consume all happens around 25 for mostmen.)

The point is, youre trying to say that being an alpha=/=being a nice guy. Thats bullshit. There is plenty of alphas that are nice guys. That is why your thread is retarded, that is why ive been such an ass.
Because you constantly try and put yourself out there like this liberal  left wing equality bullshit, but then youre on here saying trying to say that alphas cannot be nice guys. The definition of alpha male is simply the dominant one. Youre equating being dominant with being an asshole. That simply isnt the truth. Sure, some use intimidation and manipulation to get their ways, but others use other ways to get to the same end result.
This thread reads like someone who has deep issues with what he (you) consider alphas, and that they intimidate and bully you.

[The Showstoppa]

I am amused at me being presented as the stereotypical "nice guy". 

I think it has something to do with the light-saber pic.....

[CalvinH]

Butterbean is by far the nicest.

[Lundgren]

The point is, youre trying to say that being an alpha=/=being a nice guy. Thats bullshit. There is plenty of alphas that are nice guys. That is why your thread is retarded, that is why ive been such an ass.
Because you constantly try and put yourself out there like this liberal  left wing equality bullshit, but then youre on here saying trying to say that alphas cannot be nice guys. The definition of alpha male is simply the dominant one. Youre equating being dominant with being an asshole. That simply isnt the truth. Sure, some use intimidation and manipulation to get their ways, but others use other ways to get to the same end result.
This thread reads like someone who has deep issues with what he (you) consider alphas, and that they intimidate and bully you.

First off I ain't no liberal, if you think that you've obviously not reading most of my views(first to condem modern immigration etc).

Regardless it's your view point versus mine bullshit

read the post that got me started the nice guys finished last comment. That was a response to that question. I think you should stick to the real man theory Alpha by most people's defintions has asshole as a component.Or you've just removed the word so far from the biological term that it's become meaningless.  And of course you don't have to be an asshole or manipulate, however outside of your ideals that is often what ends up happening.
http://www.subliminal-messaging.com/alpha-male-traits/

[Deicide]

Butterbean is by far the nicest.

QFT

[Parker]

Might I suggest this for Lundreisgod?
http://www.nomoremrniceguy.com/ the book is well worth the read...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d.html/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/187-6522571-5462513?a=0762415339

[johnnynoname]

rumor has it that your mom is a nice guy

[Lundgren]

Might I suggest this for Lundreisgod?
http://www.nomoremrniceguy.com/ the book is well worth the read...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d.html/ref=redir_mdp_mobile/187-6522571-5462513?a=0762415339

First off I ain't a nice guy syndrome. I'm hostile controlling dick who can't play nice because I' was instilled a sense of distrust from people due to my years of abuse I recieved from bullies.

Second I guess that's a valid point only took 55 post for something counter to what I'm saying.

I donno I don't think it means your automatically someone bitch that links pushes it in the opposite direction I'm pushing alpha. Into a context where it's a good thing.

Maybe I mean good guy in the sense that he won't break the rules nor we he hurt others?

ALRIGHT XERSES YOUR AN ALL ROUND GOOD GUY, BUT YOUR NOT NICE OK

[Parker]

First off I ain't a nice guy syndrome. I'm hostile controlling dick who can't play nice because I' was instilled a sense of distrust from people due to my years of abuse I recieved from bullies.

Second I guess that's a valid point only took 55 post for something counter to what I'm saying.

I donno I don't think it means your automatically someone bitch that links pushes it in the opposite direction I'm pushing alpha. Into a context where it's a good thing.

Maybe I mean good guy in the sense that he won't break the rules nor we he hurt others?

ALRIGHT XERSES YOUR AN ALL ROUND GOOD GUY, BUT YOUR NOT NICE OK

have you sought therapy? Because Getbig is not the place to work out your problems or exorcise your demons...it will make it worse...and you've gotten progressively worse.

[Shockwave]

First off I ain't a nice guy syndrome. I'm hostile controlling dick who can't play nice because I' was instilled a sense of distrust from people due to my years of abuse I recieved from bullies.

Second I guess that's a valid point only took 55 post for something counter to what I'm saying.

I donno I don't think it means your automatically someone bitch that links pushes it in the opposite direction I'm pushing alpha. Into a context where it's a good thing.

Maybe I mean good guy in the sense that he won't break the rules nor we he hurt others?

ALRIGHT XERSES YOUR AN ALL ROUND GOOD GUY, BUT YOUR NOT NICE OK

Just from reading your posts, its clear your one of those passive aggressive people that despises the kind of man that does what he wants, and gets women because he feels those are the kind of men that bullied him in school, and that he feels a severe resentment towards "alphas", much due to the fact that the embody everything he wishes he could be. Not to mention the fact that youre so frustrated that you dont/cant stand up for yourself that you have to come on here and bitch about those people. Thats what your posts read like.

[Lundgren]

Just from reading your posts, its clear your one of those passive aggressive people that despises the kind of man that does what he wants, and gets women because he feels those are the kind of men that bullied him in school, and that he feels a severe resentment towards "alphas", much due to the fact that the embody everything he wishes he could be. Not to mention the fact that youre so frustrated that you dont/cant stand up for yourself that you have to come on here and bitch about those people. Thats what your posts read like.

Close but I don't blame other's so much, I think the conditions of the modern school are a problem but not people. Were animals social animals roles have existed for millions of years read some anthro you might like it.

and yes I should get therapy, however It's hard to goto a shrink when you don't trust his opinion.

[Shockwave]

Close but I don't blame other's so much, I think the conditions of the modern school are a problem but not people. Were animals social animals roles have existed for millions of years read some anthro you might like it.

and yes I should get therapy, however It's hard to goto a shrink when you don't trust his opinion.

All therapists do is try to make you get honest with yourself, and realize why the REAL reason you act the way you do. Sounds like youre just making up reasons why not to get help. You have to want to change before you can. You have to go find a shrink you can trust. Just reading your posts, there is a laundry list of signs and signals of serious issues. Justifying, explaining, generalizing, blaming, etc.

[Lundgren]

All therapists do is try to make you get honest with yourself, and realize why the REAL reason you act the way you do. Sounds like youre just making up reasons why not to get help. You have to want to change before you can. You have to go find a shrink you can trust. Just reading your posts, there is a laundry list of signs and signals of serious issues. Justifying, explaining, generalizing, blaming, etc.

Not blaming explaining, and I over analysis everything. It's my problem I've gone to a shrink about my shit got it mostly figured out it's just about ending the cycle of negativety has disturbia has put it.

[Parker]

Close but I don't blame other's so much, I think the conditions of the modern school are a problem but not people. Were animals social animals roles have existed for millions of years read some anthro you might like it.

and yes I should get therapy, however It's hard to goto a shrink when you don't trust his opinion.

Well, make sure the therapist is tall then...stop making excuses. So you wouldn't go to a therapist for a private one on one session, but you'd rather post on here? Is it the Anominity? It seems that certain people like to seek refuge on message boards (like Squad), because it allows one to escape their reality...but, it only makes it worse. Make a list of what you want or can change about yourself and do it. And don't use the excuse of being a Dyslexic, Obssession Compulsive, Depression laden man. The more you are on here, the more excuses you come up with. Because on Getbig, it will only get worse, people are handling you with kid gloves now.

[Lundgren]

Well, make sure the therapist is tall then...stop making excuses. So you wouldn't go to a therapist for a private one on one session, but you'd rather post on here? Is it the Anominity? It seems that certain people like to seek refuge on message boards (like Squad), because it allows one to escape their reality...but, it only makes it worse. Make a list of what you want or can change about yourself and do it. And don't use the excuse of being a Dyslexic, Obssession Compulsive, Depression laden man. The more you are on here, the more excuses you come up with. Because on Getbig, it will only get worse, people are handling you with kid gloves now.

Dyslexia don't effect me in the least I don't care about what you fucks think I argue about it because I like to argue.

I ain't hiding behind my OCD I'm working with it. It's not something you fix overnight, and there's no real cure, it's just learning healthy patterns of behaviour to replace your old ones.
Regardless I don't think I'm getting worst on here I think it's helping a bit. I've learned to be more tolerate of people in a context that can't be done in real life.
I've started going out and shit more in the last month, getting myself back together, however I'm a student so this site is one of the few things I can do while doing school work .

[Parker]

Dyslexia don't effect me in the least I don't care about what you fucks think I argue about it because I like to argue.

I ain't hiding behind my OCD I'm working with it. It's not something you fix overnight, and there's no real cure, it's just learning healthy patterns of behaviour to replace your old ones.
Regardless I don't think I'm getting worst on here I think it's helping a bit. I've learned to be more tolerate of people in a context that can't be done in real life.
I've started going out and shit more in the last month, getting myself back together, however I'm a student so this site is one of the few things I can do while doing school work .

You see Lundgren, that's why people fuck with you. You exhibited the "triggering behavior" that I talked about in the bully thread. People will try and help you, or leave you alone, and you say some off the wall passive-aggressive shit. And then feign wonder at what you did and play the victim. You are using this subconciously as a attention getter. Any attention, whether negative or positive is good to you.  This is where Getbig has done you good, because you get the attention that you are missing IRL.
Actually, I think you are not a bad person, you just have some issues that are better off dealt offline. 

[Shockwave]

Dyslexia don't effect me in the least I don't care about what you fucks think I argue about it because I like to argue.

I ain't hiding behind my OCD I'm working with it. It's not something you fix overnight, and there's no real cure, it's just learning healthy patterns of behaviour to replace your old ones.
Regardless I don't think I'm getting worst on here I think it's helping a bit. I've learned to be more tolerate of people in a context that can't be done in real life.
I've started going out and shit more in the last month, getting myself back together, however I'm a student so this site is one of the few things I can do while doing school work .

You are in so much denial its not even funny. You make up excuses left and right, justify, explain, etc.
Like Parker says, quit making excuses and fucking change something.

[Shockwave]

You see Lundgren, that's why people fuck with you. You exhibited the "triggering behavior" that I talked about in the bully thread. People will try and help you, or leave you alone, and you say some off the wall passive-aggressive shit. And then feign wonder at what you did and play the victim. You are using this subconciously as a attention getter. Any attention, whether negative or positive is good to you.  This is where Getbig has done you good, because you get the attention that you are missing IRL.
Actually, I think you are not a bad person, you just have some issues that are better off dealt offline. 

He reminds me exactly of this chick I know, difference is she was gang raped and molested by her step dad. Lol.

[Lundgren]

You see Lundgren, that's why people fuck with you. You exhibited the "triggering behavior" that I talked about in the bully thread. People will try and help you, or leave you alone, and you say some off the wall passive-aggressive shit. And then feign wonder at what you did and play the victim. You are using this subconciously as a attention getter. Any attention, whether negative or positive is good to you.  This is where Getbig has done you good, because you get the attention that you are missing IRL.
Actually, I think you are not a bad person, you just have some issues that are better off dealt offline. 

I know what your saying but it's only half true. I deal with it offline, but there' s limits.

What exactly do you mean by this triggering behaviour and pasive agressive shit. I mean fully aware I got "vet mode" when I feel like I'm being corned but I'm getting past this in real life. This sites helps grealty in that aspect. Also I admit I feed for attention everyone does. but I wouldn't go into public just to get my fill.

[Parker]

I know what your saying but it's only half true. I deal with it offline, but there' s limits.

What exactly do you mean by this triggering behaviour and pasive agressive shit. I mean fully aware I got "vet mode" when I feel like I'm being corned but I'm getting past this in real life. This sites helps grealty in that aspect. Also I admit I feed for attention everyone does. but I wouldn't go into public just to get my fill.

When I say triggering behavior, it's a behavior that the "victim" does to gain the attention of the bully. It's as if the victim needs validation of their situation, attention. when someone offers you advice, in a non threatening way, and then you say, "I could give a fuck...", you've just triggered the other person to hammer at you, and then you feign why...when subconsciously, you knew why, because it was the reaction you wanted. Attention. People who are engrossed in the cycle of victimhood often seek situations where they can garner pity, attention or sympathy. They don't see that their livelyhood hinges on the attention that they recieve from being a victim. This attention then becomes addictive, and they only know one way to get it...

[Lundgren]

When I say triggering behavior, it's a behavior that the "victim" does to gain the attention of the bully. It's as if the victim needs validation of their situation, attention. when someone offers you advice, in a non threatening way, and then you say, "I could give a fuck...", you've just triggered the other person to hammer at you, and then you feign why...when subconsciously, you knew why, because it was the reaction you wanted. Attention. People who are engrossed in the cycle of victimhood often seek situations where they can garner pity, attention or sympathy. They don't see that their livelyhood hinges on the attention that they recieve from being a victim. This attention then becomes addictive, and they only know one way to get it...

To be honest I don't get alot of attention in real life. So that might not entirely be true I get what your saying though it's close to were I come from.