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« Reply #75 on: November 10, 2010, 06:16:13 AM »
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« Reply #76 on: November 10, 2010, 06:17:45 AM »
Yeah, they do.  Anyone, regardless of race, knows it.....now whether they will admit it or not is another thing.  If they do admit it, they run the risk of being put into the sell-out/uncle tom category.....so it's more "street" to just blame others for your own failures, rather than take some responsibility.....and believe me you see it in the low-income whites here too.

Whites and you-know-whos are the ones selling that shit, though. 

What percentage of the programming decisions on commercial radio are being made by Blacks? 

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« Reply #77 on: November 10, 2010, 06:17:50 AM »
Wigglet........all I'm gonna say about this is it is the "black culture" fault.......meaning black heros are the gangsters and rappers and drug dealers.........so young black kids want that, don't want to be Cliff Huxtable........that's too hard, being a piece of shit is easy.

^This^
I volunteer Coach high school football. The only reason the kids listen to me is because i have tattoos and drive a mercedes. And look cool. When i talk education, they totally tune out.. well except for the one kid Tyki Nelworth i coached.. he is in Westpoint right now.. google him.  

Aspirations for some of the kids..i swear to god.. To grow up and Cut hair.. True story

These kids have it awful tho. I take like 6 kids to dinner after every practice because they dont have responsible parents at home. One kid was homeless until this Sept. Student body president.. and homeless...like sleeping on the street.

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« Reply #78 on: November 10, 2010, 06:20:37 AM »
^This^
I volunteer Coach high school football. The only reason the kids listen to me is because i have tattoos and drive a mercedes. And look cool. When i talk education, they totally tune out.. well except for the one kid Tyki Nelworth i coached.. he is in Westpoint right now.. google him.  

Aspirations for some of the kids..i swear to god.. To grow up and Cut hair.. True story

These kids have it awful tho. I take like 6 kids to dinner after every practice because they dont have responsible parents at home. One kid was homeless until this Sept. Student body president.. and homeless...like sleeping on the street.
This is the kid im talking about...i coach him now. he had 2 sacks a couple of weeks ago
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« Reply #79 on: November 10, 2010, 06:21:37 AM »
These kids have it awful tho. I take like 6 kids to dinner after every practice because they dont have responsible parents at home. One kid was homeless until this Sept. Student body president.. and homeless...like sleeping on the street.

what color was he?

poor kid.

Would be devastating to have parenst that dont care. They are supposed to be your heros.

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« Reply #80 on: November 10, 2010, 06:22:57 AM »
Question for mal, Tre and Wiggs.......here in Raleigh there is a big uproar because the school council wants to get rid of a busing program that is supposed to create racial diversity....the main reason is to save money, as many buses from different schools are covering the same areas.....  the opponents of ending the busing think it's a "racist" move......what do you guys think and what were the schools like that you attended in jr hs and hs?

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« Reply #81 on: November 10, 2010, 06:25:23 AM »
Whites and you-know-whos are the ones selling that shit, though. 

What percentage of the programming decisions on commercial radio are being made by Blacks? 

All y'all n*g*as need to get real up in this bitch!



So what you're saying is that most blacks are too stupid to think for themselves and instead the majority of them take their cultural cues from non-blacks.

Seems to me that you're blaming others for your shortcomings.

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« Reply #82 on: November 10, 2010, 06:27:41 AM »
what color was he?

poor kid.

Would be devastating to have parenst that dont care. They are supposed to be your heros.
http://issuu.com/p.e.a.s.intheirpods/docs/p.e.a.s_magazine_16th_edition  If you got like 8 min.. read his stoy.. Cedric Boswell is his name. he is a 160lb DE...and is a monster on the field.

click this link...he is black.. blacker than black lol...his father is pretty much on deaths bed every ailment known to man...bed ridden and Ced takes care of him...every 2 weeks we go shopping and he asks for the bare minimum...like Toilet paper and bread... dude the shit breaks my heart but he will be a beast and succeed. Thats when people do the racist shit about how blacks are Genetically inferior.. i dont have to go far to find an argument to the contrary

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« Reply #83 on: November 10, 2010, 06:35:04 AM »
Question for mal, Tre and Wiggs.......here in Raleigh there is a big uproar because the school council wants to get rid of a busing program that is supposed to create racial diversity....the main reason is to save money, as many buses from different schools are covering the same areas.....  the opponents of ending the busing think it's a "racist" move......what do you guys think and what were the schools like that you attended in jr hs and hs?
Funding and community involvement were the issues in my JR high schools. High school was just Awful. As far as Jr high. I went to 2. Horase Mann Middle school which was inner city, We didnt have books for every kid. We had 1 book for every 2 kids in 6th and 7th grade. Hopefully you lived close to your bookmate because if not it was tough to get homework done.

My other school was Marina Del Rey Middle which is on the westside.. near the beach. We had 2 books for every 1 student. One for school and one for home. Young Lawyers Program, young engineers program (both run by volunteers in the community) Shit.. Rosie Grier was my football coach..Both schools are Los angeles unified school district. But its a big difference in funding and involvment.
High school...lmao.. i went to the high school that Tooki Williams Started the crips at. Washington high in los angeles. First day at school there was a damn shooting. 1000 freshmen came in, 400 Graduated...

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« Reply #84 on: November 10, 2010, 06:36:49 AM »
At this point, you can't make any claim for "blame" on their minority status.  

Asians and Indians= minorities too.  
But you learn your math from an Asian, go see your Indian doctor, and get your tweeds from your black dealer....

It's the culture.  As long as "studying" makes you an uncle Tom and all your problems are because of "the man," there's not going to be any changes.  


Anyone that's in college knows what the "kid that always walks in late" looks like.  They know what the "kid that actually answers cell phone calls in the middle of class" looks like.  

Any Engineering, Physics, or Mathematics student knows that any class they take after Differential Equations is going to be a mix of Asian, White, and Indian students.....and that's it,
It's an unfortunate situation that isn't going to change unless society itself "changes."  Between the black culture and white guilt....it'll always be "the man's fault," that minorities are held back....as long as that minority is African American.



That's funny! I found plenty of black students in my classes. And my degree is in engineering. Then again, like Big Mal, I'm an HBCU grad.

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« Reply #85 on: November 10, 2010, 06:37:20 AM »
That's funny! I found plenty of black students in my classes. And my degree is in engineering. Then again, like Big Mal, I'm an HBCU grad.

What school did you go to?

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« Reply #86 on: November 10, 2010, 06:38:58 AM »
Sorry but this is untrue, I've seen some that have not...and we've all seen white kids that haven't succeed. Fact is, Black People are the Canary In the Cave for America, what goes wrong with black people eventually goes wrong with the rest of America. And now you see tons of disenfranchised white males from either single parent, broken homes, or dysfunctional families who are nothing more than wastes of space slackers...who do you think is MMA/Bodybuilding's base...these folk.

Don't generalized like that...the generational aspect is what really is the issue, whether it be white, or black, The Baby Boomer generation has failed their kids. Whether it be black women with picking the wrong men, and thinking that they can raise a kid by themselves, or white parents who play "friends" with their kids and let them talk to them however they want.


I think  this is the part that everyone is missing, white and black both went into modern lifestyle around 30-40 years ago. Which ment kids went on autopilot. They had to teach themselves etc, wasn't an issue with whites because they were already culturally ingrained in academic, bussiness lifestyle.

The expectation that black kids without a sphere of influnece means there trapped and will stay down forrever.

My parents never force school down my throat, it was just the world I live in that I had to goto school. That's the difference white culture has been able to coast because it already got it.

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« Reply #87 on: November 10, 2010, 06:40:24 AM »
Funding and community involvement were the issues in my JR high schools. High school was just Awful. As far as Jr high. I went to 2. Horase Mann Middle school which was inner city, We didnt have books for every kid. We had 1 book for every 2 kids in 6th and 7th grade. Hopefully you lived close to your bookmate because if not it was tough to get homework done.

My other school was Marina Del Rey Middle which is on the westside.. near the beach. We had 2 books for every 1 student. One for school and one for home. Young Lawyers Program, young engineers program (both run by volunteers in the community) Shit.. Rosie Grier was my football coach..Both schools are Los angeles unified school district. But its a big difference in funding and involvment.
High school...lmao.. i went to the high school that Tooki Williams Started the crips at. Washington high in los angeles. First day at school there was a damn shooting. 1000 freshmen came in, 400 Graduated...

that is so crazy within the same city....here instead of just busing kids to "better schools" they need to improve the ones with bad performance and funding.  I would love to ask them what message it's sending to the kids left at the shitty schools to brag about sending a fairly small percentage to the better schools? 


and that grad rate is staggering and telling....I know a hs diploma is just a kinda joke to all of us with higher education, but damn can you imagine how much that limits your employment opportunities?  When people ask me about school, I assume they mean college right off the bat.

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« Reply #88 on: November 10, 2010, 06:40:52 AM »
Funding and community involvement were the issues in my JR high schools. High school was just Awful. As far as Jr high. I went to 2. Horase Mann Middle school which was inner city, We didnt have books for every kid. We had 1 book for every 2 kids in 6th and 7th grade. Hopefully you lived close to your bookmate because if not it was tough to get homework done.

My other school was Marina Del Rey Middle which is on the westside.. near the beach. We had 2 books for every 1 student. One for school and one for home. Young Lawyers Program, young engineers program (both run by volunteers in the community) Shit.. Rosie Grier was my football coach..Both schools are Los angeles unified school district. But its a big difference in funding and involvment.
High school...lmao.. i went to the high school that Tooki Williams Started the crips at. Washington high in los angeles. First day at school there was a damn shooting. 1000 freshmen came in, 400 Graduated...
Yeah, but Rosey was in the movie 'The Thing with Two Heads,' so I question the education he received.   ;D

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« Reply #89 on: November 10, 2010, 06:42:44 AM »
Chaos had it right in his earlier post- it's your own culture's fault. If an emphasis would be put on work ethic and raising your kids the correct way then they would probably turn out to be great citizens. It happens in all cultures, not just black culture. I see and have worked with some hard working black ppl but I don't see as many as I should. Your kids don't want to grow up and be doctors and engineers they want to be rappers, gang bangers, and sports stars. Education is key to raising the status of a culture, just look at the Asian culture for example.

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« Reply #90 on: November 10, 2010, 06:44:15 AM »
Chaos had it right in his earlier post- it's your own culture's fault. If an emphasis would be put on work ethic and raising your kids the correct way then they would probably turn out to be great citizens. It happens in all cultures, not just black culture. I see and have worked with some hard working black ppl but I don't see as many as I should. Your kids don't want to grow up and be doctors and engineers they want to be rappers, gang bangers, and sports stars. Education is key to raising the status of a culture, just look at the Asian culture for example.

Lotta truth in your post.

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« Reply #91 on: November 10, 2010, 06:45:27 AM »
that is so crazy within the same city....here instead of just busing kids to "better schools" they need to improve the ones with bad

Dude thats my whole argument. Thats why i cant blame whites...this is the problem...

We dont know what measures to vote on locally so funding is shit.
When there is a PTA meeting at University High (the high school in brentwood down the street from my place) man.. the fuckin whole of bev hills somes out to see whats going on with their children. What bills will effect the school. What programs will be offered etc.

At Washington, about 14 parents show up... most are mexican. True story

I wrote Sharpton about this because i feel like its something of substance. Since blacks (i dont know why) seem to listen to this douche, i thought that he could shed light on the primary education of the inner city, but i havent heard from him yet.

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« Reply #92 on: November 10, 2010, 06:47:10 AM »
I think  this is the part that everyone is missing, white and black both went into modern lifestyle around 30-40 years ago. Which ment kids went on autopilot. They had to teach themselves etc, wasn't an issue with whites because they were already culturally ingrained in academic, bussiness lifestyle.

The expectation that black kids without a sphere of influnece means there trapped and will stay down forrever.

My parents never force school down my throat, it was just the world I live in that I had to goto school. That's the difference white culture has been able to coast because it already got it.
Yes I'm quoting what I said, because I believe it.

The culture sucks because culture can't develope in modern society. The idea that black parents are gonna shit down a kids throat is too much. Sure asians do it and there fucked up over obsessive neurotic over acheivers because of it.  White people have been costing,  they havent needed input from parents, to expect blacks with no input from there parents to be on the same level is exposing the ignorance of people on both sides of the issue, and just proves you don't understand how culture works.

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« Reply #93 on: November 10, 2010, 06:47:48 AM »
Dude thats my whole argument. Thats why i cant blame whites...this is the problem...

We dont know what measures to vote on locally so funding is shit.
When there is a PTA meeting at University High (the high school in brentwood down the street from my place) man.. the fuckin whole of bev hills somes out to see whats going on with their children. What bills will effect the school. What programs will be offered etc.

At Washington, about 14 parents show up... most are mexican. True story

I wrote Sharpton about this because i feel like its something of substance. Since blacks (i dont know why) seem to listen to this douche, i thought that he could shed light on the primary education of the inner city, but i havent heard from him yet.

You are exactly right.....I suggested Wiggs read the book Super Freakanomics, and I think you would like it too....it's a quick read, but the guy backs up with hard numbers exactly one of the things you bring up.....parent involvement....he also touched on schools that are free of dealers, and thugs hanging around near them, etc...you should check it out.

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« Reply #94 on: November 10, 2010, 06:50:22 AM »
You are exactly right.....I suggested Wiggs read the book Super Freakanomics, and I think you would like it too....it's a quick read, but the guy backs up with hard numbers exactly one of the things you bring up.....parent involvement....he also touched on schools that are free of dealers, and thugs hanging around near them, etc...you should check it out.

Dude i know.. im like bill Cosby on this one.. We got some shit to handle and we cant blame whites for it. Im Puerto rican too.. and most of them hate mexicans... but why, they work harder. Puerto ricans are the at the bottom of the barell when it comes to education and employment of any spanish speaking culture....AND WE HAVE THE EASIEST PATH...we dont have to jump fences like mexicans.

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« Reply #95 on: November 10, 2010, 06:57:11 AM »
You are exactly right.....I suggested Wiggs read the book Super Freakanomics, and I think you would like it too....it's a quick read, but the guy backs up with hard numbers exactly one of the things you bring up.....parent involvement....he also touched on schools that are free of dealers, and thugs hanging around near them, etc...you should check it out.
The parental involvement is overstated. My parents were marignally involved in my academics. I was independant never even crossed their mind to instill shit in me.

I learned because it was the world I lived in. The women would talk about being nurse " the plative care unit is moving to the west wing obstetrics are having afit etc" the men would talk about a job they did the size of tax forums etc. Me my brothers and cousins would be fucking around with toy gunpoweder rockets, taken apart rc cars, bill 6 foot towers out of lego's(dad taught us how to make strong structure) etc. I was born to be an engineer not because my parents even know what the fuck it's about but because it was the world I grew up in. 

Point is this is the shit black kids don't have access to, a passive enviroment that advocates learning. My parents never forced shit on me nor did any of my cousins do that shit, we all just knew what we wanted to do. This is why you can't expect blacks to behave like whites.

Sure you can tell your black kid to work hard etcetera, but it's harder to force your will on someone and much easier to passively influence.

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« Reply #96 on: November 10, 2010, 07:19:02 AM »
Wigglet........all I'm gonna say about this is it is the "black culture" fault.......meaning black heros are the gangsters and rappers and drug dealers.........so young black kids want that, don't want to be Cliff Huxtable........that's too hard, being a piece of shit is easy.

Chaos you are correct in your assessment. I would also like to add that it isn't Whitey's fault for the demise of black people's education or success. You have all black schools, all black colleges and so many social programs to make sure they black kids have a shot at success. It is a matter of taking advantage of what is put forward for them.

I for one would love for every kids to be able to go to college and get an education but I want them to do it by their hard work and dedication, not from some hand out program.

I didn't go to college, I served in the U.S. Army for eight years and learned a trade. I am working in that particular field to this day and I can honestly say I love it and make a good living at it.

Life is what you make of it. Seize the opportunities and move forward.

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« Reply #97 on: November 10, 2010, 07:23:58 AM »
So what you're saying is that most blacks are too stupid to think for themselves and instead the majority of them take their cultural cues from non-blacks.

Seems to me that you're blaming others for your shortcomings.

Just so you understand where I'm coming from, I think most Americans PERIOD are too stupid to think for themselves, black, white, yellow, brown, whatever.

And as I've stated over and over, yes, churches and public schools (aided by the mass media) are complicit in the destruction of free thought.


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« Reply #98 on: November 10, 2010, 07:30:16 AM »
Just so you understand where I'm coming from, I think most Americans PERIOD are too stupid to think for themselves, black, white, yellow, brown, whatever.

And as I've stated over and over, yes, churches and public schools (aided by the mass media) are complicit in the destruction of free thought.


The difference is whites are still coasting by on a legacy from the GI bill, where going to school was instilled in white culture just as much as ww2 is. This is what people dont get. I'm tired of saying it but these are the profound differences in how whites and blacks act.


It even goes back to my americans are immature, American culture is youth oriented and has little involvement from parents as american's are very much and independant people in the modern era.

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« Reply #99 on: November 10, 2010, 07:40:35 AM »
i think you have to put a lot of the blame at the feet of popular culture. The role models that the black youth of today look up to have no indications of any education (T.I, lil wayne....etc) like it or not the majority of black youth look to pop culture as their inspiration, and when you inspiration is phones, shoes, and rims...... well education takes a back seat (no pun intended on the whole back seat back of the bus thing).