Flex Wheeler never was as good as arnold.

[tallgerman]

There's no doubt flex was bigger ... more defined.

But if I had seen a picture of this:



vs this:



When I was young and impressionable, I would probably never have picked up a barbell.

Arnold still looks human ... Then you add in the factor that Arnold was a real strength athlete (deadlifted over 700lbs, etc) ... He gets my vote!

mroe defined? no
shorter not bigger yes?
delts way too big and chest to small yes
arnold owns flex

[JOHN MATRIX]

oh brother, Synthol 'all drugs' Wheeler couldnt hold a candle to the great Arnold.

the ONLY thing he had on him was shreddedness and thats only due to modern diuretic drugs and abuse

[JOHN MATRIX]

still the gold standard of Tall White Superior Ary an genetics  

[SomeKindofMonster]

I think that was his point

Yes you are correct. I've always had a great memory when it came to anything
but it seems my reading comprehension skills were lacking on this one.
Anyway, here's a link to some screen caps from the 1993 AC.
I think my copy is in better shape and I'll make some caps of my own at some point
of both the 93 and 98 AC. The pics from 98 don't do the video version of flex justice.
Here's the link to the 93 AC caps...

http://www.musclemecca.com/showthread.php/193775-Flex-Wheeler-1993-Arnold-Classic-PICS-!!!?highlight=flex+wheeler

[SomeKindofMonster]

It was done on UPN, both the 98 and 99 and I think the 2000 were aired on UPN, remixed and called Arnold Rock n roll or something like that. Just as there is only the 19 sec video of Flex for the 1993 Arnold, what gives? Is there some sort of copyright issue, where there are virtually no video of the 90s and early 2000s Arnold Classic videos that can be released

You are correct on the 1998 AC - it is called Arnold's Rock and Roll Bodybuilding. I don't know about 99, 2000.
The 2000 AC is covered on a documentary on youtube called the greatest bodies.

[WillGrant]

Arnold on the protocols of today would still be the best.

Remember without Arnold there would be no Flex Wheeler , he inspired so many to even think about picking up a Barbell.

[Jaime]

1993 Flex Wheeler Crushes Arnold

1993 Flex has a shitty chest, is extremely narrow and has zero taper.

Arnold doesn't look like a mutant so wins by default.

[Parker]

1993 Flex has a shitty chest, is extremely narrow and has zero taper.

Arnold doesn't look like a mutant so wins by default.

Flex had one of the best tapers out there...he was effectively a more complete Brian Buchanan. All bbers in that mold have great tapers---BB, Flex Jean-Guillame, Theirry Pastel, Melvin Anthony, and Jojo Ntiforo.

[Jaime]

Flex had one of the best tapers out there...he was effectively a more complete Brian Buchanan. All bbers in that mold have great tapers---BB, Flex Jean-Guillame, Theirry Pastel, Melvin Anthony, and Jojo Ntiforo.

Brian had a tiny waist and wideish shoulders. Flex had narrow shoulders and a smallish waist. Brian's taper kills Flex.

I don't think his taper was impressive at all, his structure kills it.

[hench]

Arnolds frame and structure and well placed mass would have prevailed.

[Parker]

Brian had a tiny waist and wideish shoulders. Flex had narrow shoulders and a smallish waist. Brian's taper kills Flex.

I don't think his taper was impressive at all, his structure kills it.

They ALL had the same structure...tiny joints, with full muscle bellies...when they did each pose, they had virtually the same look...all the ones I listed also looked better at a lighter weight and held fat in the lower back-glute-ham tie in. All had the "Triangle" look when doing the front double biceps...and if you look at the Olympia vid and other old pics, Brian was not a wide guy, the illusion came from his ultra small waist...structurally, they were virtually the same...except Flex did more with it.

[Azure]

what a ghetto piece of shit, Arnold had class.

No wonder you guys are always talking about women troubles. 

That kind of arrogance gets 20 something chicks something hot.  Now him doing that act on a mature woman isn't going to work, but a cocky bastid like that would get lots of play from immature and horny young women.

Madeline was so fierce.  Her body was on point.

[Reeves]

No wonder you guys are always talking about women troubles. 

That kind of arrogance gets 20 something chicks something hot.  Now him doing that act on a mature woman isn't going to work, but a cocky bastid like that would get lots of play from immature and horny young women.

Madeline was so fierce.  Her body was on point.

I wouldn't want a woman that found such tripe "hot".  Young or otherwise.    Flux is at best a tepid pile of manure.  If it's a matter of who has had more women, its pretty much a guarantee that the Oak has been with more women than Flux.  The kind of physical presence Arnold had and has, coupled with being that which a great deal of shallow women find appealing, i.e., world famous and of course "financially hung" makes him all the more attractive to vapid women that would find Flux  merely "hot".  But then that's not much of a recommendation for taking a woman home to meet your parents.   "Mom?  Dad?  I'd like you to meet ______, She used to screw Arnold S., but she's changed now and wants to settle down."  Nah.  I don't think so.  No double standards here.   

Flex?  In the grand scheme of things he's really a nobody.  Madeline?  Is she  the arm jewelry that Flux was wearing?  I've seen women as beautiful and better at the mall.  Now then,  to many here  I'm probably nothing to look at but neither am I a ridiculous little oil filled faux ghetto toad like that clown Flux was and probably still is.  I wouldn't touch a woman that had been with a person of such "character".    And for the record, color doesn't matter, character does.   

[tallgerman]

arnold just looked was better and was tighter and taller

[Nirvana]

Arnold didn't get attacked by ninjas and do 200lb t-bars for 10 reps

[Reeves]

Arnold didn't get attacked by ninjas and do 200lb t-bars for 10 reps

True dat.

[Parker]

Flex Wheeler's waist smaller than Lee Labrada, here...and Lee was what, 5'5-5'6 and under 200 pounds? Flex was 216 for the 93 Arnold...what I want to know, is where is the full video?

[Parker]

Arnold didn't get attacked by ninjas and do 200lb t-bars for 10 reps

No, Uncle Joe just fixed contests in his favor...

[Jaime]

They ALL had the same structure...tiny joints, with full muscle bellies...when they did each pose, they had virtually the same look...all the ones I listed also looked better at a lighter weight and held fat in the lower back-glute-ham tie in. All had the "Triangle" look when doing the front double biceps...and if you look at the Olympia vid and other old pics, Brian was not a wide guy, the illusion came from his ultra small waist...structurally, they were virtually the same...except Flex did more with it.

I really don't see where the fuck you are coming from here Parker. What is it that you are trying to argue? That Flex and Brian are genetically identical? If you look at any picture you would see that not only did Brian have wider shoulders, but that his waist was smaller than Flex's.
You are right in saying that Brian wasn't particularly wide and that it was his waist that gave him his taper, same so of Flex, only his taper was a lot worse.

Different physiques. Small joints, good shape although different, small hips along with waist (although Brian's was clearly smaller), both black, there are the similarities.

Flex had a bad taper and a shitty chest, this is pretty clear in any picture of him. Even in 1993 his abs were protruding and his chest was way overpowered by his delts and arms. This was his best form as he hadn't destroyed himself with oil at this point.

[Firemuscle]

 Arnold just had awesome biceps and a great personality.

 Besides that, he is pretty mediocre by pro BB standards.

 I never understood how people could say he's the greatest ever. It's like saying Babe Ruth was the greatest baseball player ever, just because he was a pioneer. But his skill has been surpassed at this point.

[Jaime]

Arnold just had awesome biceps and a great personality.

 Besides that, he is pretty mediocre by pro BB standards.

 I never understood how people could say he's the greatest ever. It's like saying Babe Ruth was the greatest baseball player ever, just because he was a pioneer. But his skill has been surpassed at this point.

Great chest, no real glaring weakpoints. There are a lot of guys that surpass him though or have a better structure.

[Wiggs]

Arnold just had awesome biceps and a great personality.

 Besides that, he is pretty mediocre by pro BB standards.

 I never understood how people could say he's the greatest ever. It's like saying Babe Ruth was the greatest baseball player ever, just because he was a pioneer. But his skill has been surpassed at this point.

If you can figure out a way to drill this into these idiots heads, you're a genius.

[tallgerman]

Arnold just had awesome biceps and a great personality.

 Besides that, he is pretty mediocre by pro BB standards.

 I never understood how people could say he's the greatest ever. It's like saying Babe Ruth was the greatest baseball player ever, just because he was a pioneer. But his skill has been surpassed at this point.

lol

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hilarious!!!!!!!

let me break it down:

arnold had chest n arms cant be beat, not overdone shoulders, and was rock hard without looking wak

no one can beat that

not flex not haney etc.

arnold -- nobody could beat him

flex was way inferior and shorter and softer

[Firemuscle]

 What about Arnold's thighs? Weak point? I think so.

 Also seems like his triceps were kinda weak, from the back he wan't too impressive in general, and his conditioning was often off.

 I see why you all think he's great. He was a great bodybuilder from sure. But the best??? I don't think so.

 I do like the 70's era though and I find it much more inspirational and cool than what's going on these days.

[tallgerman]

not at all

remember ronnie coleman looks liek shit and woulda lost in the 80s as unsymmetircal bag of shit

size does not alone make a bodybuilder but symmetry

add height to that and awesome hardness and that is why arnold cant be beat

legs overdone look silly

you are a hater bro, sorry, and you are irrational