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« on: December 01, 2010, 09:08:01 PM »

ward is correct about everything...especially Manning and Brady


PITTSBURGH (AP)

Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Hines Ward lashed out Wednesday at the NFL for what he calls its hypocritical stance on player safety, arguing the league recently toughened its stance only because it wants to expand to an 18-game season.

Ward said there is considerable confusion among players about which hits are legal and which aren't since the league stepped up its policing of dangerous hits. Steelers linebacker James Harrison has been fined $125,000 for four separate hits since mid-October, two of which weren't penalized.

''The league doesn't care about us anyway,'' said Ward, a 13-year veteran and the leading receiver in Steelers history. ''They don't care about the safety of the game. If the league was so concerned about the safety, why are you adding two more games on? You talk about you don't want players to drink ... and all you see is beer commercials. You don't want us to gamble, but then there are (NFL-endorsed lottery scratch-off games).''

The NFL is currently pushing for an expanded season during ongoing labor negotiations with the players union.

Ward also predicted a team will lose a game - possibly in the playoffs - because an official makes an incorrect call out of fear of being disciplined by the league for not adhering to its new policy.

''It's going to change the outcome; somebody's going to lose a game because of it,'' Ward said. ''It's going to be a huge play in a playoff game, somebody's going to hit a quarterback or do something and the referee is going to be too scared to call it. So he's going to call it anyway so he can save his tail. He (the player) may not even get fined or not, but it will come down to the outcome of a ballgame.

Ward's comments reflect the growing anger among the players on one of the NFL's showcase franchises. The Steelers are becoming increasingly upset over the near-weekly fines levied Harrison, a perceived lack of protection for quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and hits that are fined and penalized one week, but aren't subject to any penalty a week later.

''We don't know what the league wants. ... If a quarterback gets hit within the play, you can't hit him in the helmet, you can't hit him in the knees,'' Ward said. ''Where can you hit a quarterback? I keep seeing our quarterback getting hit all the time.''

Ward and several other Steelers players argued the NFL wouldn't hesitate to fine a player who injured the Colts' Peyton Manning or the Patriots' Tom Brady, yet did nothing when Roethlisberger appeared to be roughed up by Buffalo's Arthur Moats and Marcus Stroud after being sacked Sunday. Replays of the hit appear to show Moats twisting Roethlisberger's right leg while he is on the ground.

Neither player drew a penalty or fine. Roethlisberger, who injured his right knee and foot, wore a walking boot on Wednesday, although he said he expects to play Sunday in Baltimore.

Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs took the unusual stance of agreeing with the rival Steelers during a conference call with Pittsburgh reporters.

''The league has their favorites,'' Suggs said Wednesday. ''One being in Indy (Manning) and one being with that team up north (Brady). Besides those two, everybody is fair game. Like I always said, (the Bengals') Carson Palmer got his knee hurt in 2005, but there was no rule made. Then Tom Brady got hit in the knee and all of a sudden there is rule and possible suspensions, excessive fines. It's just getting ridiculous.''

Roethlisberger, asked about Suggs' comments, said, ''He seems to know some things about the game of football.''

Despite the weekly confusion they're expressing, the Steelers won't change their playing style to adopt to the ever-shifting rules, according to Ward.

''We're going to keep playing the way we always have been playing,'' Ward said. ''If they fine us, they fine us. It's football. I don't care what type of rules you do, you can't protect (against) the physicality of this game. It's always going to be a physical ballgame.''
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2010, 09:19:34 PM »

ward is correct about everything...especially Manning and Brady

Ward and several other Steelers players argued the NFL wouldn't hesitate to fine a player who injured the Colts' Peyton Manning


Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs took the unusual stance of agreeing with the rival Steelers during a conference call with Pittsburgh reporters.

''The league has their favorites,'' Suggs said Wednesday. ''One being in Indy (Manning) and one being with that team up north (Brady). Besides those two, everybody is fair game. Like I always said, (the Bengals') Carson Palmer got his knee hurt in 2005, but there was no rule made. Then Tom Brady got hit in the knee and all of a sudden there is rule and possible suspensions, excessive fines. It's just getting ridiculous.''

Roethlisberger, asked about Suggs' comments, said, ''He seems to know some things about the game of football.''

Despite the weekly confusion they're expressing, the Steelers won't change their playing style to adopt to the ever-shifting rules, according to Ward.

''We're going to keep playing the way we always have been playing,'' Ward said. ''If they fine us, they fine us. It's football. I don't care what type of rules you do, you can't protect (against) the physicality of this game. It's always going to be a physical ballgame.''
I've been saying this about Manning for yrs...

And yeah, Ward is right about the hypocrisy with the beer and gambling..
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2010, 09:26:31 PM »

fucking dirtbag NFL manage to take the MOST exciting sport in the world.......and drain EVERY OUNCE of fun, individuality, spontaneity, unpredictability, uniqueness, and masculinity from it

just an evil fucking faceless conglomerate that wants conformity to serve on a platter to joe six pack

i hope roger goodell, that f@ggot non-athlete clown dies of aids   
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2010, 09:43:35 PM »

fucking dirtbag NFL manage to take the MOST exciting sport in the world.......and drain EVERY OUNCE of fun, individuality, spontaneity, unpredictability, uniqueness, and masculinity from it

just an evil fucking faceless conglomerate that wants conformity to serve on a platter to joe six pack

i hope roger goodell, that f@ggot non-athlete clown dies of aids   

NFL=NASCAR for football fans.
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2010, 09:50:06 PM »

I never thought the NFL was fixed until favre threw and int into doule coverage to let teh saints win last year when all he had to do was run outa bounds and let the field goal win it.

he is vet and knows that

he was told to throw int to let saints win
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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2010, 09:54:53 PM »

Men arguing and complaining about another Man`s job contract and taking it serious.  You can`t make this kind of futile nonsense up as evidenced by this thread.  Undecided
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2010, 09:56:06 PM »

Farve didn't throw the game, dude regularly throws at least 2 picks per game. Vick threw into triple coverage last week and wound up in a TD!
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2010, 10:39:52 PM »

Oh look, all the thugs are mad because they can't partake in their thuggery anymore.

Check out this gem from captain dirt himself, Hines Ward:

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''The league doesn't care about us anyway,'' said Ward, a 13-year veteran and the leading receiver in Steelers history. ''They don't care about the safety of the game. If the league was so concerned about the safety, why are you adding two more games on? You talk about you don't want players to drink ... and all you see is beer commercials. You don't want us to gamble, but then there are (NFL-endorsed lottery scratch-off games).''

Well Hines, the NFL might be adding a game or two to enjoy the extra BILLION dollars the added games will generate. Not to mention, they are eliminating two preseason games (which are beyond a joke). I guess Hines does not understand that the NFL is a growing business. Clearly they want to make the game safer so guys can play longer and make more monety for themselves and for the NFL.

Hmmm, so now the NFl is telling guys they can't drink or gamble? Hines, pretty sure they are advising guys not to get shitfaced and act like Big Ben, and not to gamble their life savings away. I think it's safe to say that the NFL has no problem with their players enjoying themselves as long as they conduct themselves like mature professionals.

Oddly enough, men ages 18-54 like beer and scratch tickets. Weird, sounds like the NFL audience. This guys is so fucking out of touch. Idiot.

Maybe the Steelers are getting fined often because they are constantly hitting guys helmet to helmet and playing like dirtbags. Rooney is one of the most respected owners in the NFL and his franchise is one of the most profitable. The NFL is not targeting one of it's biggest cash cows. Retards like Harrison never learn.
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2010, 11:16:42 AM »

ward is correct about everything...especially Manning and Brady


PITTSBURGH (AP)

Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Hines Ward lashed out Wednesday at the NFL for what he calls its hypocritical stance on player safety, arguing the league recently toughened its stance only because it wants to expand to an 18-game season.

Ward said there is considerable confusion among players about which hits are legal and which aren't since the league stepped up its policing of dangerous hits. Steelers linebacker James Harrison has been fined $125,000 for four separate hits since mid-October, two of which weren't penalized.

''The league doesn't care about us anyway,'' said Ward, a 13-year veteran and the leading receiver in Steelers history. ''They don't care about the safety of the game. If the league was so concerned about the safety, why are you adding two more games on? You talk about you don't want players to drink ... and all you see is beer commercials. You don't want us to gamble, but then there are (NFL-endorsed lottery scratch-off games).''

The NFL is currently pushing for an expanded season during ongoing labor negotiations with the players union.

Ward also predicted a team will lose a game - possibly in the playoffs - because an official makes an incorrect call out of fear of being disciplined by the league for not adhering to its new policy.

''It's going to change the outcome; somebody's going to lose a game because of it,'' Ward said. ''It's going to be a huge play in a playoff game, somebody's going to hit a quarterback or do something and the referee is going to be too scared to call it. So he's going to call it anyway so he can save his tail. He (the player) may not even get fined or not, but it will come down to the outcome of a ballgame.

Ward's comments reflect the growing anger among the players on one of the NFL's showcase franchises. The Steelers are becoming increasingly upset over the near-weekly fines levied Harrison, a perceived lack of protection for quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and hits that are fined and penalized one week, but aren't subject to any penalty a week later.

''We don't know what the league wants. ... If a quarterback gets hit within the play, you can't hit him in the helmet, you can't hit him in the knees,'' Ward said. ''Where can you hit a quarterback? I keep seeing our quarterback getting hit all the time.''

Ward and several other Steelers players argued the NFL wouldn't hesitate to fine a player who injured the Colts' Peyton Manning or the Patriots' Tom Brady, yet did nothing when Roethlisberger appeared to be roughed up by Buffalo's Arthur Moats and Marcus Stroud after being sacked Sunday. Replays of the hit appear to show Moats twisting Roethlisberger's right leg while he is on the ground.

Neither player drew a penalty or fine. Roethlisberger, who injured his right knee and foot, wore a walking boot on Wednesday, although he said he expects to play Sunday in Baltimore.

Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs took the unusual stance of agreeing with the rival Steelers during a conference call with Pittsburgh reporters.

''The league has their favorites,'' Suggs said Wednesday. ''One being in Indy (Manning) and one being with that team up north (Brady). Besides those two, everybody is fair game. Like I always said, (the Bengals') Carson Palmer got his knee hurt in 2005, but there was no rule made. Then Tom Brady got hit in the knee and all of a sudden there is rule and possible suspensions, excessive fines. It's just getting ridiculous.''

Roethlisberger, asked about Suggs' comments, said, ''He seems to know some things about the game of football.''

Despite the weekly confusion they're expressing, the Steelers won't change their playing style to adopt to the ever-shifting rules, according to Ward.

''We're going to keep playing the way we always have been playing,'' Ward said. ''If they fine us, they fine us. It's football. I don't care what type of rules you do, you can't protect (against) the physicality of this game. It's always going to be a physical ballgame.''
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2010, 11:39:48 AM »

Oh look, all the thugs are mad because they can't partake in their thuggery anymore.

Check out this gem from captain dirt himself, Hines Ward:

Well Hines, the NFL might be adding a game or two to enjoy the extra BILLION dollars the added games will generate. Not to mention, they are eliminating two preseason games (which are beyond a joke). I guess Hines does not understand that the NFL is a growing business. Clearly they want to make the game safer so guys can play longer and make more monety for themselves and for the NFL.

Hmmm, so now the NFl is telling guys they can't drink or gamble? Hines, pretty sure they are advising guys not to get shitfaced and act like Big Ben, and not to gamble their life savings away. I think it's safe to say that the NFL has no problem with their players enjoying themselves as long as they conduct themselves like mature professionals.

Oddly enough, men ages 18-54 like beer and scratch tickets. Weird, sounds like the NFL audience. This guys is so fucking out of touch. Idiot.

Maybe the Steelers are getting fined often because they are constantly hitting guys helmet to helmet and playing like dirtbags. Rooney is one of the most respected owners in the NFL and his franchise is one of the most profitable. The NFL is not targeting one of it's biggest cash cows. Retards like Harrison never learn.

I'll give you what you said on the beer and tickets but those two preseason games hardly equal two regular season games...most  starters play no more than a couple series.
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2010, 11:40:52 AM »

Oh look, all the thugs are mad because they can't partake in their thuggery anymore.

Check out this gem from captain dirt himself, Hines Ward:

Well Hines, the NFL might be adding a game or two to enjoy the extra BILLION dollars the added games will generate. Not to mention, they are eliminating two preseason games (which are beyond a joke). I guess Hines does not understand that the NFL is a growing business. Clearly they want to make the game safer so guys can play longer and make more monety for themselves and for the NFL.

Hmmm, so now the NFl is telling guys they can't drink or gamble? Hines, pretty sure they are advising guys not to get shitfaced and act like Big Ben, and not to gamble their life savings away. I think it's safe to say that the NFL has no problem with their players enjoying themselves as long as they conduct themselves like mature professionals.

Oddly enough, men ages 18-54 like beer and scratch tickets. Weird, sounds like the NFL audience. This guys is so fucking out of touch. Idiot.

Maybe the Steelers are getting fined often because they are constantly hitting guys helmet to helmet and playing like dirtbags. Rooney is one of the most respected owners in the NFL and his franchise is one of the most profitable. The NFL is not targeting one of it's biggest cash cows. Retards like Harrison never learn.
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2010, 12:14:45 PM »

I never thought the NFL was fixed until favre threw and int into doule coverage to let teh saints win last year when all he had to do was run outa bounds and let the field goal win it.

he is vet and knows that

he was told to throw int to let saints win

favre has always thrown into double coverage resulting in dumb a$$ interceptions.
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2010, 12:16:28 PM »

favre has always thrown into double coverage resulting in dumb a$$ interceptions.

lol.. he is the only dude that will throw 5 picks in a game.. because any other qb will be benched after 3
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2010, 12:22:01 PM »

lol.. he is the only dude that will throw 5 picks in a game.. because any other qb will be benched after 3

wasn't it the st louis rams playoff game vs green bay when brett air balled 6 ints? or vs. minnesota? That sh*t was rediculous. He should have been shot on the field. lol
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2010, 12:27:18 PM »

wasn't it the st louis rams playoff game vs green bay when brett air balled 6 ints? or vs. minnesota? That sh*t was rediculous. He should have been shot on the field. lol

Manning has thrown a shitload in a couple games also...
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« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2010, 12:28:47 PM »

wasn't it the st louis rams playoff game vs green bay when brett air balled 6 ints? or vs. minnesota? That sh*t was rediculous. He should have been shot on the field. lol


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« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2010, 12:32:01 PM »

Manning has thrown a shitload in a couple games also...

na i think mannings highest is like 3 or 4 that came off pressure from blitz
Favres come with no pass rush.. just dick head moves
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« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2010, 12:42:13 PM »

na i think mannings highest is like 3 or 4 that came off pressure from blitz
Favres come with no pass rush.. just dick head moves

4 is a shitload...
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« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2010, 12:52:16 PM »

4 is a shitload...
But favre has done it like many many times
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« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2010, 12:54:52 PM »

But favre has done it like many many times

of course...Favre is an interception machine...he's like the emmitt smith of qbs....he's great but he's not the best.
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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2010, 01:27:54 PM »

I'll give you what you said on the beer and tickets but those two preseason games hardly equal two regular season games...most  starters play no more than a couple series.


You're right, but as you know, the players are asking that they be compensated for the extra games. The NFL is making the game "safer" because they know they will be extending the season.

Hines Ward is a fucking idiot. His points are all retarded.

The NFL is a business and their players are their product. What ward is insinuating is ludicrous. Basically, he's saying the NFL is out to destroy their own product.

This is all moot anyway...America loves the NFL and if these thugs don't change their ways, they will be replaced. There is a who draft of young kids each and every year who would play 30 games if you asked them to.
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« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2010, 01:43:48 PM »

It is getting ridiculous that anytime a QB gets hit hard a flag is thrown.  The hit Harrison put on Fitzpatrick was a text book hit.  Also, he hit him as the ball was being released.  The hit he put on Jason Campbell was also perfect.  Right when he released the ball.  Just think what would have happened during the eras of Dick Butkus, Jack Lambert, Lawrence Taylor and Bruce Smith/Reggie White.  Those guys would have been fined to the point where they would be paying the NFL to play on Sundays.  It is out of control.
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You're right, but as you know, the players are asking that they be compensated for the extra games. The NFL is making the game "safer" because they know they will be extending the season.

Hines Ward is a fucking idiot. His points are all retarded.

The NFL is a business and their players are their product. What ward is insinuating is ludicrous. Basically, he's saying the NFL is out to destroy their own product.

This is all moot anyway...America loves the NFL and if these thugs don't change their ways, they will be replaced. There is a who draft of young kids each and every year who would play 30 games if you asked them to.

Actually he makes a valid point...Look at the injuries over the past couple years...for whatever reason, they seem to be getting worse, thus shortening their careers...Then you want them to play two more games on top of this?  LOL...that's fucking nuts...Of course the owners want them to do this at the same rate of pay, less revenue sharing, less guaranteed money and whatever else I'm forgetting...Fuck that...if there's any sport that deserves 100% guaranteed contracts, it's NFL...
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« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2010, 01:53:02 PM »

The gambling thing is VERY hypocritical....the NFL REQUIRES teams to disclose injuries so that the point spread can be adjusted accordingly.

Beer?  Nah.....its about drinking responsibly.  the only time you hear them bash a player is when he gets popped for a DUI.


18 game schedule.  No need for it, its just to generate more cash, as there isn't an outcry from fans to have it.  That said, if the players don't like it, get a 9-5 job like the rest of us dumbasses in the world and see which one you like better.

Hits....they are all over the charts on this issue.  And you can tell the announcers have been coached to not question when its called.  The really just need to review each instance of it, happens a few times per game, and let the booth decide if there was intent involved.
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You're right, but as you know, the players are asking that they be compensated for the extra games. The NFL is making the game "safer" because they know they will be extending the season.

Hines Ward is a fucking idiot. His points are all retarded.

The NFL is a business and their players are their product. What ward is insinuating is ludicrous. Basically, he's saying the NFL is out to destroy their own product.

This is all moot anyway...America loves the NFL and if these thugs don't change their ways, they will be replaced. There is a who draft of young kids each and every year who would play 30 games if you asked them to.

hines ward is right. so was polamalu.

have you ever played football at a competitive level? no, you havent- i can tell from all your fanboy posts. your the guy who likes to sit online and play fantasy football, and watch it on tv, pretends he knows the game because he watches NFL network and knows what cover 2 means, but hasnt an ounce of athletic ability. the closest you've come to a football field is the bleachers you sit on and eat your hot dogs. you like to spout off numbers and stats cause you feel it makes you look like you know the game, but would shit his pants when a 240 fullback comes running up the a gap looking bury his helmet in your face and run you the fuck over.

because if you had played football you would know that playing at half speed, half assed, half intensity is going to get you hurt badly. maybe someone else as well. defensive players cannot play half speed, cognisant of 'am i too high am i leading with my helmet is my timing off'. THATS how guys get hurt.

stick to your stats and numbers, fool. leave the actual game to real men.

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