Author Topic: why did mike mentzer not win more stuff? (Read 5545 times)

tallgerman · « **on:** December 05, 2010, 02:04:21 PM »

opinions?

oldtimer1 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 05, 2010, 02:17:53 PM »

The first time he entered the Mr. Universe he was beat easily by Robby Robinson. He tried it again and he was destroyed by an in shape Kalman Szkalak who was bigger, more cut and body part by body part was a cut above except for calves. In the 1980 Olympia he didn't come in second or third he came in fifth. If you watch the actual tape of it you would see how deserved 5th.

Boost · « **Reply #2 on:** December 05, 2010, 02:20:18 PM »

why did he not win?

Maybe he was not Mentz-to...

bwahahahahha

tallgerman · « **Reply #3 on:** December 05, 2010, 02:21:17 PM »

Where can one see that tape?

Fatpanda · « **Reply #4 on:** December 05, 2010, 02:22:01 PM »

his teachings were totally opposed to weider principles.

weider was bodybuilding, so he didn't get much love.

not to mention he didn't push supplements like weider wanted - again another nail.

Mr. Magoo · « **Reply #5 on:** December 05, 2010, 02:23:12 PM »

welcome back bluto

tallgerman · « **Reply #6 on:** December 05, 2010, 02:37:10 PM »

whos bluto

again I have no "gimiks"

~UN_$ung~ · « **Reply #7 on:** December 05, 2010, 02:40:37 PM »

why didnt he win more stuff?..............cause he didnt compete that much

after he did those universes or whatever, then after the 80 O, he stopped competing

Dorian01 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 05, 2010, 02:46:33 PM »

Not bad

* 1971 Mr. America - AAU, 10th
* 1971 Teen Mr America - AAU, 2nd
* 1975 Mr. America - IFBB, Medium, 3rd
* 1975 Mr. USA - ABBA, Medium, 2nd
* 1976 Mr. America - IFBB, Overall Winner
* 1976 Mr. America - IFBB, Medium, 1st
* 1976 Mr. Universe - IFBB, MiddleWeight, 2nd
* 1977 North American Championships - IFBB, Overall Winner
* 1977 North American Championships - IFBB, MiddleWeight, 1st
* 1977 Mr. Universe - IFBB, HeavyWeight, 2nd
* 1978 USA vs the World - IFBB, HeavyWeight, 1st
* 1978 World Amateur Championships - IFBB, HeavyWeight, 1st
* 1979 Canada Pro Cup - IFBB, 2nd
* 1979 Florida Pro Invitational - IFBB, 1st
* 1979 Night of Champions - IFBB, 3rd
* 1979 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, HeavyWeight (over 200 pounds) 1st, Overall 2nd
* 1979 Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd
* 1979 Southern Pro Cup - IFBB, 1st
* 1980 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, 5th

chaos · « **Reply #9 on:** December 05, 2010, 02:48:01 PM »

Quote from: tallgerman on December 05, 2010, 02:21:17 PM

Where can one see that tape?

Of your mom being gangbanged by the 1980 Olympia lineup?

stuntmovie · « **Reply #10 on:** December 05, 2010, 03:11:58 PM »

I knew Mike and Ray fairly well and am a bit surprised that FatPanda offered a pretty accurate but part-appraisal of the situation.

And also .... Mike had little respect for Arnold due to a number of reasons but mainly because he thought that the Arnold/Weider friendship did not allow fair and impartial decisions within certain IFBB contentions.

On one occasion we had a 4 to 5 hour meeting with about 15 amateur contestants immediately following a contest in which Mike spoke openly and honestly about his relationship with the IFBB. He made it clear that he had no respect for Arnold and that fact that he was a friend of Joe's.

That was the time when Mike was planning to publish a new magazine ... which some of you GetBiggers may know more about than myself.

Fatpanda · « **Reply #11 on:** December 06, 2010, 07:17:40 AM »

Quote from: stuntmovie on December 05, 2010, 03:11:58 PM

I knew Mike and Ray fairly well and am a bit surprised that FatPanda offered a pretty accurate but part-appraisal of the situation.

And also .... Mike had little respect for Arnold due to a number of reasons but mainly because he thought that the Arnold/Weider friendship did not allow fair and impartial decisions within certain IFBB contentions.

On one occasion we had a 4 to 5 hour meeting with about 15 amateur contestants immediately following a contest in which Mike spoke openly and honestly about his relationship with the IFBB. He made it clear that he had no respect for Arnold and that fact that he was a friend of Joe's.

That was the time when Mike was planning to publish a new magazine ... which some of you GetBiggers may know more about than myself.

why are you surprised by my comments stunt ?

tallgerman · « **Reply #12 on:** December 06, 2010, 07:19:04 AM »

Quote from: chaos on December 05, 2010, 02:48:01 PM

Of your mom being gangbanged by the 1980 Olympia lineup?

no the one or menzer shitting on your moms face from 1 super intense set of curls

JasonH · « **Reply #13 on:** December 06, 2010, 07:24:29 AM »

Quote from: Dorian01 on December 05, 2010, 02:46:33 PM

Not bad

* 1971 Mr. America - AAU, 10th
* 1971 Teen Mr America - AAU, 2nd
* 1975 Mr. America - IFBB, Medium, 3rd
* 1975 Mr. USA - ABBA, Medium, 2nd
* 1976 Mr. America - IFBB, Overall Winner
* 1976 Mr. America - IFBB, Medium, 1st
* 1976 Mr. Universe - IFBB, MiddleWeight, 2nd
* 1977 North American Championships - IFBB, Overall Winner
* 1977 North American Championships - IFBB, MiddleWeight, 1st
* 1977 Mr. Universe - IFBB, HeavyWeight, 2nd
* 1978 USA vs the World - IFBB, HeavyWeight, 1st
* 1978 World Amateur Championships - IFBB, HeavyWeight, 1st
* 1979 Canada Pro Cup - IFBB, 2nd
* 1979 Florida Pro Invitational - IFBB, 1st
* 1979 Night of Champions - IFBB, 3rd
* 1979 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, HeavyWeight (over 200 pounds) 1st, Overall 2nd
* 1979 Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd
* 1979 Southern Pro Cup - IFBB, 1st
* 1980 Mr. Olympia - IFBB, 5th

Interesting list - considering he was only one place away from winning the Mr O in 1979 he got pretty close.

Reeves · « **Reply #14 on:** December 06, 2010, 11:58:16 AM »

Question: "why did mike mentzer not win more stuff?"

Answer: Because he quit.

jaejonna · « **Reply #15 on:** December 06, 2010, 12:01:45 PM »

Arnold p@w3d him into suicide....

Playboy · « **Reply #16 on:** December 06, 2010, 12:27:26 PM »

Quote from: tallgerman on December 05, 2010, 02:04:21 PM

opinions?

Because he wasn't good enough.....for the fifty thousandth time....

SilverSpoon · « **Reply #17 on:** December 06, 2010, 12:52:12 PM »

IIRC, he was the only bodybuilder to ever achieve a perfect score of "300" at the Mr. Universe, which I believe he won.
His book, Heavy Duty Journal, shows how important drugs are to the "sport".
On a calorie deficient diet, he gained 9 pounds of muscle, wherein he did the same diet "clean", he lost 4 pounds.
His diet was quite frankly, stupid, even though he was chemically enhanced, and this is coming from a true Mentzer disciple.

jeremyj · « **Reply #18 on:** December 06, 2010, 01:31:31 PM »

Mentzer was a cool dude one of the smart guys,I guess Arnold didn't like other Smart guys around.Always remember Arnold is GOD.

Alexander D · « **Reply #19 on:** December 06, 2010, 02:01:03 PM »

Probably the mustache...

HTexan · « **Reply #20 on:** December 06, 2010, 02:07:07 PM »

Quote from: A DUB on December 06, 2010, 02:01:03 PM

Probably the mustache...

yup yup, the stache was too manly for schmoes.

Fatpanda · « **Reply #21 on:** December 06, 2010, 02:17:28 PM »

Quote from: SilverSpoon on December 06, 2010, 12:52:12 PM

IIRC, he was the only bodybuilder to ever achieve a perfect score of "300" at the Mr. Universe, which I believe he won.
His book, Heavy Duty Journal, shows how important drugs are to the "sport".
On a calorie deficient diet, he gained 9 pounds of muscle, wherein he did the same diet "clean", he lost 4 pounds.
His diet was quite frankly, stupid, even though he was chemically enhanced, and this is coming from a true Mentzer disciple.

pdf ?

SilverSpoon · « **Reply #22 on:** December 06, 2010, 02:19:24 PM »

Fatpanda, what are you asking me?
If this is available by pdf?
No, I have the HD Journal from the 1979 Olympia at my house. It was given to me by Roger Schwab of Main Line Health and Fitness (formerly Main Line Nautilus) where Mike would occassionaly train.
Roger is a former judge for the IFBB and taught me a ton about HIT training.

Fatpanda · « **Reply #23 on:** December 06, 2010, 02:21:26 PM »

Quote from: SilverSpoon on December 06, 2010, 02:19:24 PM

Fatpanda, what are you asking me?
If this is available by pdf?
No, I have the HD Journal from the 1979 Olympia at my house. It was given to me by Roger Schwab of Main Line Health and Fitness (formerly Main Line Nautilus) where Mike would occassionaly train.
Roger is a former judge for the IFBB and taught me a ton about HIT training.

any chance of a scan of it ?

i'll return the favour 10 fold

Joe Roark · « **Reply #24 on:** December 06, 2010, 05:17:24 PM »

Mentzer did not have two IFBB pro wins in 1979. He won the Southern Pro Cup on February 3, 1979- which was his only IFBB pro win ever.