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Wiggs - cycleles, diet - is it working?
« on: December 12, 2010, 12:54:59 AM »
Lately ive noticed that you talk alot about steroids, about the cycles youre doing and "diet" that youre supposed to follow.

That amazes me.

youre using tren, test, t3 clen eca and gh if i recall. on "antidepressants" and god knows what else.

do you have any pic? even full clothed and face blurred. only pic i have seen is your face and it clearly seems that youre fat.

To make mysel clear, i have not intentions to insult you, just wondering, y know.

merry xmass.

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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2010, 02:39:00 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2010, 02:41:06 AM »
He's just big boned.

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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2010, 03:32:31 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2010, 04:26:50 AM »
why does this thread have tremendeous lagg  for me? It takes 1 mionute to scroll down the page it starts lagging so much....

fucking unsecured wireless internet connection... to connect to a SECURED line i have to press some button that doesn't exist, hodld it for 20 seconds, enter my PIN code for my net provider and press "setup"..... WHAT THE FUCK is that, it's like the internet providers WANT us to leak information.... fuck this shit.

I never should have bought wireless ethernet card... it's USELESS!!! This ain't 2100 yet.

It's Mesoz avatar.  ::)  BDB's does the same thing.

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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2010, 04:38:22 AM »
It's Mesoz avatar.  ::)  BDB's does the same thing.
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2010, 08:21:49 AM »
Lately ive noticed that you talk alot about steroids, about the cycles youre doing and "diet" that youre supposed to follow.

That amazes me.

youre using tren, test, t3 clen eca and gh if i recall. on "antidepressants" and god knows what else.

do you have any pic? even full clothed and face blurred. only pic i have seen is your face and it clearly seems that youre fat.

To make mysel clear, i have not intentions to insult you, just wondering, y know.

merry xmass.
He's a fat drug addicted loser who has been disowned by his own family for being a lazy disgrace and a Tom.
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2010, 08:32:23 AM »
Reread the threads...The only thing I'm currently on is eq and test and t-3....tren, GH, masteron and anything else is down the line when I'm much leaner...I've stated I'll post pics when I'm much closer to where I want to be.
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2010, 09:12:24 AM »
Reread the threads...The only thing I'm currently on is eq and test and t-3....tren, GH, masteron and anything else is down the line when I'm much leaner...I've stated I'll post pics when I'm much closer to where I want to be.
I didnt mean to insult you, i was just wondering. y know. good luck..

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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2010, 09:18:56 AM »
I didnt mean to insult you, i was just wondering. y know. good luck..

You didn't insult me...thanks though. 8)
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2010, 10:43:05 AM »
I like Wiggs and some of his posts are great..but I'm surprised he feels the need to use all those chemicals when a few good cardio sessions a day plus a low carb diet, and hard training could have him dropping fat. Why take all that crap? He's putting his future sexual function at risk, slowing down his thyroid output with t-3, lowering his natural test production...and for what? Is he going to be a pro bodybuilder? Highly doubtful. To impress some low rent "Hoochie Mama?" Why man, why? Remember, when you come off this shit Wiggs, the low test and thyroid output will hugely increase your depression and those anti-depressants will not be the answer. Hate to see a good dude go down this path of self destruction.

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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2010, 10:46:17 AM »
I can see why Wiggy identifies with fatpanda


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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2010, 10:56:24 AM »
I like Wiggs and some of his posts are great..but I'm surprised he feels the need to use all those chemicals when a few good cardio sessions a day plus a low carb diet, and hard training could have him dropping fat. Why take all that crap? He's putting his future sexual function at risk, slowing down his thyroid output with t-3, lowering his natural test production...and for what? Is he going to be a pro bodybuilder? Highly doubtful. To impress some low rent "Hoochie Mama?" Why man, why? Remember, when you come off this shit Wiggs, the low test and thyroid output will hugely increase your depression and those anti-depressants will not be the answer. Hate to see a good dude go down this path of self destruction.

Hey duchebagge why do you call yourself lord of the roidz when you always speak out against them

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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2010, 11:14:13 AM »
Hey duchebagge why do you call yourself lord of the roidz when you always speak out against them
I've used them in the past..competed successfully and I managed to retain most of my gains for the last 10 years without them. Because I used them in a highly scientific and intelligent manner, I still have great natural testosterone production and perfect health even though I'm in my mid 40's. But I constantly see advice doled out on these boards by guys like T-Bombz advocating massive doses taken for years at a time..to people who will never compete, never be a pro athlete or anything. And what results from this is a bunch of guys in their 20's and 30's who can no longer produce their own test anymore, are bald, depressed, have no muscle...So to those that are smart enough to know...if you train extremely hard, have spot on nutrition and take small amounts of anabolics for brief periods of time using the correct recovery protocols..they can avoid the fate of those who abuse.. If trying to help the enlightened makes me a "duchebagge", as you call it, then so be it.

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« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2010, 11:15:44 AM »



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« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2010, 02:14:36 PM »
I've used them in the past..competed successfully and I managed to retain most of my gains for the last 10 years without them. Because I used them in a highly scientific and intelligent manner, I still have great natural testosterone production and perfect health even though I'm in my mid 40's. But I constantly see advice doled out on these boards by guys like T-Bombz advocating massive doses taken for years at a time..to people who will never compete, never be a pro athlete or anything. And what results from this is a bunch of guys in their 20's and 30's who can no longer produce their own test anymore, are bald, depressed, have no muscle...So to those that are smart enough to know...if you train extremely hard, have spot on nutrition and take small amounts of anabolics for brief periods of time using the correct recovery protocols..they can avoid the fate of those who abuse.. If trying to help the enlightened makes me a "duchebagge", as you call it, then so be it.

Good post... :)

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« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2010, 06:58:12 PM »
I like Wiggs and some of his posts are great..but I'm surprised he feels the need to use all those chemicals when a few good cardio sessions a day plus a low carb diet, and hard training could have him dropping fat. Why take all that crap? He's putting his future sexual function at risk, slowing down his thyroid output with t-3, lowering his natural test production...and for what? Is he going to be a pro bodybuilder? Highly doubtful. To impress some low rent "Hoochie Mama?" Why man, why? Remember, when you come off this shit Wiggs, the low test and thyroid output will hugely increase your depression and those anti-depressants will not be the answer. Hate to see a good dude go down this path of self destruction.
Wiggs is an addict, pure and simple. These drugs serve no useful value for him at this stage of his life (30's and married), yet he cannot help himself.

Is it any surprise Wiggs feels that he needs anti depressants when he wastes his time and money in this fashion? Depression is usually the result of the guilt of consistently being your own worst enemy and yet continuing to engage in the same self destructive habits.
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« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2010, 07:27:17 PM »
I like Wiggs and some of his posts are great..but I'm surprised he feels the need to use all those chemicals when a few good cardio sessions a day plus a low carb diet, and hard training could have him dropping fat. Why take all that crap? He's putting his future sexual function at risk, slowing down his thyroid output with t-3, lowering his natural test production...and for what? Is he going to be a pro bodybuilder? Highly doubtful. To impress some low rent "Hoochie Mama?" Why man, why? Remember, when you come off this shit Wiggs, the low test and thyroid output will hugely increase your depression and those anti-depressants will not be the answer. Hate to see a good dude go down this path of self destruction.

I've used them in the past..competed successfully and I managed to retain most of my gains for the last 10 years without them. Because I used them in a highly scientific and intelligent manner, I still have great natural testosterone production and perfect health even though I'm in my mid 40's. But I constantly see advice doled out on these boards by guys like T-Bombz advocating massive doses taken for years at a time..to people who will never compete, never be a pro athlete or anything. And what results from this is a bunch of guys in their 20's and 30's who can no longer produce their own test anymore, are bald, depressed, have no muscle...So to those that are smart enough to know...if you train extremely hard, have spot on nutrition and take small amounts of anabolics for brief periods of time using the correct recovery protocols..they can avoid the fate of those who abuse.. If trying to help the enlightened makes me a "duchebagge", as you call it, then so be it.


first off, i dont advocate taking massive doses. i havent said anything about big doses for abotu a year. i only use 500mg per week these days. secondly, t-3 doesnt cause any long term effects to the thyroid gland. anybody can use t3  for as long as they want to, come off cold turkey, and be back to normal in a day or two or three.

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« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2010, 09:03:34 PM »

first off, i dont advocate taking massive doses. i havent said anything about big doses for abotu a year. i only use 500mg per week these days. secondly, t-3 doesnt cause any long term effects to the thyroid gland. anybody can use t3  for as long as they want to, come off cold turkey, and be back to normal in a day or two or three.
You obviously have no medical knowledge at all. Ask an endocrinologist if you can use t3 for "for as long as they want to, come off cold turkey, and be back to normal in a day or two or three. "   You need to lay off the Bro-science Juice forums for a while.

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« Reply #20 on: December 12, 2010, 09:12:04 PM »
You obviously have no medical knowledge at all. Ask an endocrinologist if you can use t3 for "for as long as they want to, come off cold turkey, and be back to normal in a day or two or three. "   You need to lay off the Bro-science Juice forums for a while.
He is correct and there are studys that have been done.

Unless there are underlying issues then you do bounce back pretty quickly , i had blood work taken 2 weeks after taking t3 for the first time and all my ranges TSH etc were normal , i did feel a bit sluggish/tired for a few days afterwards other than that normal.

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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2010, 11:25:25 PM »
He is correct and there are studys that have been done.

Unless there are underlying issues then you do bounce back pretty quickly , i had blood work taken 2 weeks after taking t3 for the first time and all my ranges TSH etc were normal , i did feel a bit sluggish/tired for a few days afterwards other than that normal.
4 months after i took t3 my tsh was fucked. I have planned bloodwork again to see if it has improved.

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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2010, 11:45:15 PM »
Lately ive noticed that you talk alot about steroids, about the cycles youre doing and "diet" that youre supposed to follow.

That amazes me.

youre using tren, test, t3 clen eca and gh if i recall. on "antidepressants" and god knows what else.

do you have any pic? even full clothed and face blurred. only pic i have seen is your face and it clearly seems that youre fat.

To make mysel clear, i have not intentions to insult you, just wondering, y know.

merry xmass.

I think Wiggs is just starting the mutation process. In four months fella will be a mutant.

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« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2010, 12:11:25 AM »
Wiggs is an addict, pure and simple. These drugs serve no useful value for him at this stage of his life (30's and married), yet he cannot help himself.

Is it any surprise Wiggs feels that he needs anti depressants when he wastes his time and money in this fashion? Depression is usually the result of the guilt of consistently being your own worst enemy and yet continuing to engage in the same self destructive habits.

I have a friend that's really into cars. He works on them, spends a ton of dough beefing them up, most of them he hardly drives. Just takes them to local cars shows and shows them off. Doesn't seem to serve any useful purpose other than that's what he's into.

You follow MMA, remember Enson Inoue? I knew him from back in the day when he use to train at Machado's Jiu-Jitus with his brother, Egan. Was into tats. Always getting needles and ink punched into his skin. So many people are like that. I don't get it. But, whatever. It's what they're into.

Some people want to have big muscles. Whether it's to impress others or that they look at their body as some kind of art form and they want to look like a God. I wanted to have big muscles when I was in my late teens/early twenties. Even now ideally I'd like have about 20 pounds more muscle than I have now. I'm just not willing to do what it takes. I don't think steroids and HGH are particularly harmful. I think just being really, really big is. If you're 5'10" and weighing 275+ lbs even if you're single digits your heart is working pretty damn hard.  

There's worse things a person can do with his free time than wanting to lose fat and put on muscle. It's not like Wiggs is quiting his job and neglecting his wife to do it. I don't think it's a waste of his time. If anything, it gives some meaning and purpose to life other than just job and sitting on the couch watching TV. I think you said you train in martial arts. Why? You plan on fighting anybody in the near future? What useful practical purpose is it serving you?

I hope you get in great shape, Wiggs. And do it just for the hell of it. While you still have the fire in the old belly. Or maybe it's because you're insecure. Just like the guy who becomes rich because he wants respect and to matter in life. Arnold use to say that he always had to be the center of attention. He wonder if it was because his older brother always got most of the attention from his dad. GSP and Mayhem Miller spoke about how they were picked on as a kid and perhaps that's what got them into MMA and gave them the drive to endure such a brutal sport. They were compensating.

Maybe anybody that ever amounts to anything is just compensating.  

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« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2010, 12:40:56 AM »
4 months after i took t3 my tsh was fucked. I have planned bloodwork again to see if it has improved.
Then maybe underlying issues ? or what were you running when your bloods were done ? Tren is known to drop your bodies out put of its own production.