What is "Progressive Overload"?

[dj181]

Spot on post tbombz, increasing reps and/or decreasing rest btw sets is a form of progress, but it isn't applying any form of INCREASED TRAINING LOADS, which is a VERY, VERY IMPORTANT PART of obtaining BIGGER MUSCLES.

[YoungBlood]

Spot on post tbombz, increasing reps and/or decreasing rest btw sets is a form of progress, but it isn't applying any form of INCREASED TRAINING LOADS, which is a VERY, VERY IMPORTANT PART of obtaining BIGGER MUSCLES.

Actually it can be considered to increase training loads, because if you're resting 30-60sec less on an exercise and the muscle fibers haven't recovered as much as they have had you taken that rest, the other fibers now must bear the weight of the load as well as dig deeper into how many fibers are recruited.

You don't feel if you're squatting 225 for 4 sets of ten as your first exercise is any more/less difficult than if you squatted the same weight after doing Hack squats and/or leg extensions prior to squats?

[dj181]

That kind of training that you just described with short rests btw sets is much more of a "metabolic conditioning" protocol, and it doesn't do much for muscle fiber size increases, but it will help one to become more cardiovascularly fit

[tbombz]

Spot on post tbombz, increasing reps and/or decreasing rest btw sets is a form of progress, but it isn't applying any form of INCREASED TRAINING LOADS, which is a VERY, VERY IMPORTANT PART of obtaining BIGGER MUSCLES.

Ya man, it seems like some of these guys just hate lifting heavy and will never stop trying to rationalize their failed/failing training methods.

[Tito24]

a load on your sis face

[che]

their failed/failing training methods.

Do you want to compare physiques stud.

[chaos]

Ya man, it seems like some of these guys just hate lifting heavy and will never stop trying to rationalize their failed/failing training methods.

If I searched your posts, I'm sure I could find several where you insist the weight doesn't matter....

[tbombz]

Do you want to compare physiques stud.

you looked awesome in the photos you posted. No doubt about that. But you gained 30-40lbs over ten years. At your best you looked like a swimmer with good genetics. In clothes, no one would think you were a weight lifter.

If you want to post some of your photos next to mine go right ahead. It's like apples and oranges. Big and soft vs small and ripped.

If I searched your posts, I'm sure I could find several where you insist the weight doesn't matter....

  ya, your right, and back when I thought that was true you were one of the people arguing against me saying weight does matter. Isn't that right?

[che]

you looked awesome in the photos you posted. No doubt about that. But you gained 30-40lbs over ten years. At your best you looked like a swimmer with good genetics. In clothes, no one would think you were a weight lifter.

If you want to post some of your photos next to mine go right ahead. It's like apples and oranges. Big and soft vs small and ripped.

Nah,

Serious question TBombz you have accomplished absolutely nothing naturally in the past , so how do you know if your improvements are a product of your training or your drug use .

                                                                                                                                                                                            PS:I know the answer you don't need to reply.

[Tito24]

[chaos]

  ya, your right, and back when I thought that was true you were one of the people arguing against me saying weight does matter. Isn't that right?

It's called Progressive Overload........look it up.

The "overload" part is where it turns to 8 pages of people arguing about what is considered overloading.

[YoungBlood]

That kind of training that you just described with short rests btw sets is much more of a "metabolic conditioning" protocol, and it doesn't do much for muscle fiber size increases, but it will help one to become more cardiovascularly fit

You can't see the forest for the trees, apparently. It's not as black and white, nor it's not as complicated as some make it.

You can use compound sets, jump sets, supersets and a few other tricks to get around the cardio aspect you speak of yet overload the muscle as well.

I think you're probably one of those people that just don't get it. Then again, we're on GetBig, where everyone is a 300lb 2% body fat weightlifter holding multiple records.

[dj181]

Actually, I have nearly 20 years of training experience, and I've worked as a fitness trainer as well, so I think that I've got some knowledge. I've tried just about every training protocol that one can think of, and I ALWAYS got the most muscle growth by using BIGGER AND BIGGER WEIGHTS, extended sets NEVER did jack shit for me. P.S. My biggest coach/mentor was Mr. JM Blakely. P.P.S. He has a 700 pound bp to his credit, and exercise that he created called the JM Press, and he has also written a training book or 2.

[tbombz]

Nah,

Serious question TBombz you have accomplished absolutely nothing naturally in the past , so how do you know if your improvements are a product of your training or your drug use .

                                                                                                                                                                                            PS:I know the answer you don't need to reply.

its obvious your new to getbig, you missed the photos of when i was a natural.

heres me at 15, just started training




heres me, about 9 months later. 16 y.o.




heres me at 17, of course still natural

[chaos]

its obvious your new to getbig, you missed the photos of when i was a natural.

heres me at 15, just started training




heres me, about 9 months later. 16 y.o.




heres me at 17, of course still natural

I don't see the coked out, motorcycle version of you

[kiwiol]

Dizzle, do you still plan to compete in bodybuilding contests like you used to say you would?

[tbombz]

Dizzle, do you still plan to compete in bodybuilding contests like you used to say you would?

I don't plan on it, but I am not ruling out the possibility.

[Stavios]

Ya man, it seems like some of these guys just hate lifting heavy and will never stop trying to rationalize their failed/failing training methods.

I don't know man, I love lifting heavy but I really feel my body isn't made for it.

my joints are in fucking pain whenever I try to do big benches, deads or squats after only 3-4 weeks.

and I get good results with supersets and shit, I always alternate the two

[Boost]

Bottom Line:

If your wrists are under 7 inches,

Stay away from very heavy weights.

[dj181]

Ok, so there is an idea that "Hard Work" causes muscle growth, and "Hard Work" can be achieved by extended sets. Hmm...

[Jaime]

Bottom Line:

If your wrists are under 7 inches,

Stay away from very heavy weights.

Elaborate on this. My wrists are about 6 3/4 and i lift plenty heavy.

[Ursus]

Mine are 7"

Lee Priests and Serge Nubrets were under 7"

Obviously you will never be the strongest guy ever but you can still be a strong guy.

[dj181]

It's not about being the strongest guy, it's about getting stronger in order to get bigger.

[Marty Champions]

wow many years of hard training was worth it for him

[_bruce_]

"Progressive Overload"

Sounds like Onlyme put an ad in the paper looking for guys to join his band

Hahahaha - brutal