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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #125 on: December 28, 2010, 09:38:12 AM »
Hey 333 - why don't you represent Tony ?

he overheard some peoepel talking in a gym locker room and it made him "angry"

who would you sue and on what grounds?

why not help out your fellow GB'er with some legal counsel

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #126 on: December 28, 2010, 09:39:55 AM »
The story he told took place at a gym, not a workplace. How could he end up getting sued if he'd told a story of a sexual nature while in the presence of a woman at his gym?

these two guys weren't even talking to Tony

he just overheard them and got "angry"


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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #127 on: December 28, 2010, 09:40:46 AM »
these two guys weren't even talking to Tommy

he just overheard them and got "angry"



People sue for a lot less and win.  I wish I could find one of those.  LOL.   

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #128 on: December 28, 2010, 09:41:31 AM »
sorry bud I could have guessed there would be some group out there that is fighting for this

but how many times have they attached this to any gay marriage bill they have voted on?

how many times has this been voted on period?

how many times have you heard of gay advocates holding rallies, parades, events for this?

when they want equal rights all the way around, Ill start fighting for gay marriage

Why would this be attached to any gay marriage bills? The comparison itself is flawed, but I've never seen anyone besides you make it, anyway. Even though there are probably a few more who feel as you do, the fact that you couldn't even be arsed to, at the very least, find out whether or not there are people who are fighting for the very things you spoke about proves this is not an important issue to you, but a red herring. Not only are there people who are very concerned with "bathroom rights", but they are, ironically, primarily the people you assumed would be in opposition to your so-called position.

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #129 on: December 28, 2010, 09:41:41 AM »
People sue for a lot less and win.  I wish I could find one of those.  LOL.  

they do?

then this should be an easy "case" for you

why not help out Tony

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #130 on: December 28, 2010, 09:41:45 AM »
The story he told took place at a gym, not a workplace. How could he end up getting sued if he'd told a story of a sexual nature while in the presence of a woman at his gym?
al youre a reasonable person

do you not see the unequal rights there and the potential for sexual harassment?

the point is to show that gays have rights that straights dont

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #131 on: December 28, 2010, 09:43:38 AM »
they do?

then this should be an easy "case" for you

why not help out Tommy

He lives in Texas, not the Bronx.    Big difference in jury pool. 

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #132 on: December 28, 2010, 09:44:08 AM »
People sue for a lot less and win.  I wish I could find one of those.  LOL.   

Really. I'm not a lawyer and you are, so what is a comparable case to someone telling a story in someone else's earshot, suing and then winning outside of the workplace?

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #133 on: December 28, 2010, 09:45:09 AM »
He lives in Texas, not the Bronx.    Big difference in jury pool. 

on what grounds would you sue ?


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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #134 on: December 28, 2010, 09:45:20 AM »
Why would this be attached to any gay marriage bills? The comparison itself is flawed, but I've never seen anyone besides you make it, anyway. Even though there are probably a few more who feel as you do, the fact that you couldn't even be arsed to, at the very least, find out whether or not there are people who are fighting for the very things you spoke about proves this is not an important issue to you, but a red herring. Not only are there people who are very concerned with "bathroom rights", but they are, ironically, primarily the people you assumed would be in opposition to your so-called position.
im not comparing gay marriage to bathroom rights lol nice name...

my point is why is this not at the forefront of gay rights issue? gay marriage is billed as a civil rights issue if you ask most ppl including straw and so would "bathroom rights" lol so why not make a gay rights bill?

youre right the issue isnt all that important i use it as an example of the unequal rights and the lack of concern from those who advocate for gay marriage...straw man being a prime example...

I dont have anything against gays, I actually would assume that gays would see the bath room rights much more easily than others again straw man being a prime example...

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #135 on: December 28, 2010, 09:46:50 AM »
Really. I'm not a lawyer and you are, so what is a comparable case to someone telling a story in someone else's earshot, suing and then winning outside of the workplace?
talking in a deraugetory manner is considered sexual harassment even if its not directed towards the individual...

do you think that the two twinks talking about gay sex while i was getting dressed could have caused me to be uncomfortable?

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #136 on: December 28, 2010, 09:50:35 AM »
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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #137 on: December 28, 2010, 09:51:42 AM »
ha ha h ha


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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #138 on: December 28, 2010, 09:53:00 AM »
ha ha h ha



you're not really lawyer are you?

I'm guessing paralegal or maybe bicycle messenger

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #139 on: December 28, 2010, 09:54:23 AM »
al youre a reasonable person

do you not see the unequal rights there and the potential for sexual harassment?

the point is to show that gays have rights that straights dont

it's at best, an uneven comparison, and there's nothing best about it. Would you actually  give up your marriage or right to get married  to be able to use the bathroom with women? The only place there would be any benefit would be in a gym locker room. In regular bathrooms, you wouldn't come into too may situations fraught with potential sexual harassment.

Secondly, you've stated that you consider homosexuality behavioral with a genetic component, so from your perspective,  why does it matter whether or not a gay guy shares a locker room with you?

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #140 on: December 28, 2010, 09:54:51 AM »
Straw - I will bet you 250k that I am.  

As for the video - it prves that gay conversations between peple can generate a lawsuit in this context.  

Sure the unwanted massage is not cool, but this guy will collect big time.    

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #141 on: December 28, 2010, 09:55:58 AM »
talking in a deraugetory manner is considered sexual harassment even if its not directed towards the individual...

do you think that the two twinks talking about gay sex while i was getting dressed could have caused me to be uncomfortable?

Outside of a work environment, what repercussions would you have suffered had you done this in the presence of a woman?

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #142 on: December 28, 2010, 09:56:07 AM »
Straw - I will bet you 250k that I am.  

As for the video - it prves that gay conversations between peple can generate a lawsuit in this context.  

Sure the unwanted massage is not cool, but this guy will collect big time.    

does Tommy have a case?

why don't you help him out with some legal "advises" that actually pertain to the situation he described

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #143 on: December 28, 2010, 10:03:00 AM »
does Tommy have a case?

why don't you help him out with some legal "advises" that actually pertain to the situation he described

Not unless the employer or place of business knew of the situation and ignored it. 

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #144 on: December 28, 2010, 10:07:55 AM »
Not unless the employer or place of business knew of the situation and ignored it. 

and what grounds would you sue

all he did was overhear two people talking

they weren't talking to him and he didn't ask them to stop nor did he  complain to anyone (well other than coming on here and whining about it)

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #145 on: December 28, 2010, 10:13:45 AM »
and what grounds would you sue

all he did was overhear two people talking

they weren't talking to him and he didn't ask them to stop nor did he  complain to anyone (well other than coming on here and whining about it)

I can envision many scenarios where something may come up like this.  Especially in a gym.   

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #146 on: December 28, 2010, 10:16:23 AM »
I can envision many scenarios where something may come up like this.  Especially in a gym.   

ok -but aside from you imagining different scenarios

how about the actual scenario we're talking about

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #147 on: December 28, 2010, 10:21:26 AM »
ok -but aside from you imagining different scenarios

how about the actual scenario we're talking about

Definately not a case. 

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #148 on: December 28, 2010, 10:25:50 AM »
 Russia is alpha dog! No gay marriages, no gay parades are allowed here!

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Re: Biden Says Gay Marriage 'Inevitable'
« Reply #149 on: December 28, 2010, 10:51:05 AM »
it's at best, an uneven comparison, and there's nothing best about it. Would you actually  give up your marriage or right to get married  to be able to use the bathroom with women? The only place there would be any benefit would be in a gym locker room. In regular bathrooms, you wouldn't come into too may situations fraught with potential sexual harassment.

Secondly, you've stated that you consider homosexuality behavioral with a genetic component, so from your perspective,  why does it matter whether or not a gay guy shares a locker room with you?
the two are not mutually exclusive broham you can have both...

so is heterosexuality, why are we not allowed in womens locker rooms?